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Perkins cold start
11-28-2006, 15:16
Post: #1
Perkins cold start
The temps are supposed to be - 0 here. i have tried to start my Perkins
by depressing the stop button- to activate the glow plugs. this seems
to make the voltage drop to below 10 and she will crank, smoke, but not
catch and start- any clues? Ernie- 83PT40 in dismal cold Montana-
getting ready to head home
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11-28-2006, 16:08
Post: #2
Perkins cold start
What kind of fuel do you have in there? If you dont have a winter fuel in
there, I'd put a lot of
Power Service in the stop the fuel from gelling. You may need to hit the
auxilliary battery
switch to get enough juice to fire it up. Those are cold temperatures to get a
diesel started.
You probably have series glow plugs in the engine and they are just not as
efficient at
starting an engine as parallel plugs since they lose of lot of energy through
the heavy wires
connecting the plugs. Also, if you don't have synthetic oil in the engine it is
hard to get it to
spin fast enough to start at those temperatures.

Kerry
82 FC 35
Denver

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>
> The temps are supposed to be - 0 here. i have tried to start my Perkins
> by depressing the stop button- to activate the glow plugs. this seems
> to make the voltage drop to below 10 and she will crank, smoke, but not
> catch and start- any clues? Ernie- 83PT40 in dismal cold Montana-
> getting ready to head home
>
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11-28-2006, 16:14
Post: #3
Perkins cold start
Ernie, Try using the battery parrell switch to tie alll the batteries
together. This may spin the perkins over a little faster. Mike
McMahan 1989 PT40

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wrote:
>
> The temps are supposed to be - 0 here. i have tried to start my
Perkins
> by depressing the stop button- to activate the glow plugs. this
seems
> to make the voltage drop to below 10 and she will crank, smoke, but
not
> catch and start- any clues? Ernie- 83PT40 in dismal cold Montana-
> getting ready to head home
>
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11-28-2006, 16:16
Post: #4
Perkins cold start
I started my Perkins the other day when temps were in the 20's and it was a real
bear. Had to hit the glow plugs repeatedly, finally resorted to a little
starting fluid and it still bucked, farted and smoked like it was burning pine
knots for a minute or so. They just don't like the cold. I'd use a magnetic
block heater (unless yours has a plug in heater) and plan on an ordeal, unless
you can just do without it until you hit warmer temps. Good Luck, Doug

Ernest Ekberg wrote: The temps are supposed to be
- 0 here. i have tried to start my Perkins
by depressing the stop button- to activate the glow plugs. this seems
to make the voltage drop to below 10 and she will crank, smoke, but not
catch and start- any clues? Ernie- 83PT40 in dismal cold Montana-
getting ready to head home






Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey"

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11-28-2006, 16:24
Post: #5
Perkins cold start
From your neighbor over in Bigfork, and having to start my diesel Gradall
forklift on the job site this morning, forget about any clues in this kind of
weather and get out the starting fluid. But the key is to NEVER spray any into
the air intake unless you are cranking the engine over. Never spray to a sitting
still engine. The other key is to use ever so little, just a tiny little squirt,
then add alittle more as needed, ONLY when the engine is being cranked over.
Some people just won't uderatand how cold it is here. After you get it started,
start the bird and HEAD South!!!. Jim in Bigfork 8135FCRB

Ernest Ekberg wrote: The temps are supposed to be
- 0 here. i have tried to start my Perkins
by depressing the stop button- to activate the glow plugs. this seems
to make the voltage drop to below 10 and she will crank, smoke, but not
catch and start- any clues? Ernie- 83PT40 in dismal cold Montana-
getting ready to head home






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11-28-2006, 17:25
Post: #6
Perkins cold start
Just a thought. In extremely cold temps diesel fuel can gell up. Do you have
an additive in the fuel. Can you start the main engine?

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL



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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:14 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Perkins cold start


Ernie, Try using the battery parrell switch to tie alll the batteries
together. This may spin the perkins over a little faster. Mike
McMahan 1989 PT40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
wrote:
>
> The temps are supposed to be - 0 here. i have tried to start my
Perkins
> by depressing the stop button- to activate the glow plugs. this
seems
> to make the voltage drop to below 10 and she will crank, smoke, but
not
> catch and start- any clues? Ernie- 83PT40 in dismal cold Montana-
> getting ready to head home
>





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11-28-2006, 20:22
Post: #7
Perkins cold start
Luckily, I put a gallon of Power Service additive in about 2 months ago.
We'll see how things go this afternoon after work. Thanks,

Ernie Ekberg
83 PT40
Livingston, Montana



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11-28-2006, 20:25
Post: #8
Perkins cold start
Will be heading south Friday.

Ernie Ekberg
83 PT40
Livingston, Montana



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11-29-2006, 01:18
Post: #9
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Ernie,

How long are you glowing? Usually glow plugs from this era are the
slow heating type that are almost impossible to burn out from
overheating.
I'd glow it for a minute and see what happens. If you only do it
for 10 seconds or so, they're just getting started. On my IH Scout
diesel, the book shows glowing for over a minute depending on
outside temps.

David Hollis 84 FC353 Springfield IL
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
wrote:
>
> The temps are supposed to be - 0 here. i have tried to start my
Perkins
> by depressing the stop button- to activate the glow plugs. this
seems
> to make the voltage drop to below 10 and she will crank, smoke,
but
not
> catch and start- any clues? Ernie- 83PT40 in dismal cold Montana-
> getting ready to head home
>
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11-29-2006, 02:08
Post: #10
Perkins cold start
You can't beat the old charcoal fire in a drain pan under the engine for cold
start.
MH
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Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Perkins cold start


The temps are supposed to be - 0 here. i have tried to start my Perkins
by depressing the stop button- to activate the glow plugs. this seems
to make the voltage drop to below 10 and she will crank, smoke, but not
catch and start- any clues? Ernie- 83PT40 in dismal cold Montana-
getting ready to head home





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