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Front wheel seals and bearings
12-28-2006, 04:51
Post: #1
Front wheel seals and bearings
Hi All,
I recently heard a strange popping noise in my right front wheel. It was hardly
noticeable but I called a friend of mine who has a local truck shop. I've been
down in my back and hurt it again last week taking out the Sharp microvave. He
pulled the wheel and checked the bearing and it needed replacing. I had the
seal replaced also. He said he normally has to do this job on the side of the
road. He said it appeared to be the original bearing and Stemco seal. I had him
do the other side even though he said it was ok. I told him now was the time not
later on the side of the road. The oil level was fine on both sides.
So listen closely!
Howard Truitt
Camilla, Ga.
86 PT40
"Sowega"

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12-28-2006, 07:51
Post: #2
Front wheel seals and bearings
"I heard that!" Howard, "Git er done"
3 of us were Northbound on I-75 when the front end
started doing the shimey, shimey, coco bop. Pulled
over, checked all tires, good?? Asked one of the
fellows to ease the coach along while I watched.
The right front wheel was doing S'es. Called a tow
in Valdosta, Ga, fellow said it was a shop job.
Here it is late Saturday after dark, wow! He cut
the inner race off with a torch, thought it was going
to take the hardness out of the axle. Sunday morning,
he called someone about 50 miles away who was up. Went
there got what he needed and we were on our way, lucky.
The wheel bearings had just been cleaned and packed?
Bad service? Fatigued bearing? Experience, yes! 77FC31

Bob janes, 87FC35, greenville, sc





--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Howard O. Truitt"
wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I recently heard a strange popping noise in my right front wheel.
It was hardly noticeable but I called a friend of mine who has a
local truck shop. I've been down in my back and hurt it again last
week taking out the Sharp microvave. He pulled the wheel and checked
the bearing and it needed replacing. I had the seal replaced also.
He said he normally has to do this job on the side of the road. He
said it appeared to be the original bearing and Stemco seal. I had
him do the other side even though he said it was ok. I told him now
was the time not later on the side of the road. The oil level was
fine on both sides.
> So listen closely!
> Howard Truitt
> Camilla, Ga.
> 86 PT40
> "Sowega"
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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12-28-2006, 09:51
Post: #3
Front wheel seals and bearings
Bob,That is one of the items that can be picked up by a temp gun. Run
the bus for an hour then shoot temps at identical parts on hub
surfaces. temps should be close to each other. If the failure came
after the bearing was repacked it may have been snugged down too
tight. I guess it is a good thing to check temps after a repair. If
you record temps and temp check spots relative to ambient and
runtime , you would have a value for referance. One other way to
remove a race is to weld lines across the roller surface to shrink
the fit then cool it down quick.
GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "one_dusty_hoot"
wrote:
>
> "I heard that!" Howard, "Git er done"
> 3 of us were Northbound on I-75 when the front end
> started doing the shimey, shimey, coco bop. Pulled
> over, checked all tires, good?? Asked one of the
> fellows to ease the coach along while I watched.
> The right front wheel was doing S'es. Called a tow
> in Valdosta, Ga, fellow said it was a shop job.
> Here it is late Saturday after dark, wow! He cut
> the inner race off with a torch, thought it was going
> to take the hardness out of the axle. Sunday morning,
> he called someone about 50 miles away who was up. Went
> there got what he needed and we were on our way, lucky.
> The wheel bearings had just been cleaned and packed?
> Bad service? Fatigued bearing? Experience, yes! 77FC31
>
> Bob janes, 87FC35, greenville, sc
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Howard O. Truitt"
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I recently heard a strange popping noise in my right front wheel.
> It was hardly noticeable but I called a friend of mine who has a
> local truck shop. I've been down in my back and hurt it again last
> week taking out the Sharp microvave. He pulled the wheel and
checked
> the bearing and it needed replacing. I had the seal replaced also.
> He said he normally has to do this job on the side of the road. He
> said it appeared to be the original bearing and Stemco seal. I had
> him do the other side even though he said it was ok. I told him now
> was the time not later on the side of the road. The oil level was
> fine on both sides.
> > So listen closely!
> > Howard Truitt
> > Camilla, Ga.
> > 86 PT40
> > "Sowega"
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
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12-28-2006, 16:20
Post: #4
Front wheel seals and bearings
Greg:
When you shoot the temperatures, what device are you using? If one uses an
infrared temperature device, not only shooting the same points on a typical
device , but also making sure the emissivity is the same, as well as the
distance from the object be very close.
This becomes even more critical when you want to record differences between
coaches.

Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
Terrace, B.C. Canada


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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:51:04 PM
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Bob,That is one of the items that can be picked up by a temp gun.
Run

the bus for an hour then shoot temps at identical parts on hub

surfaces. temps should be close to each other. If the failure came

after the bearing was repacked it may have been snugged down too

tight. I guess it is a good thing to check temps after a repair. If

you record temps and temp check spots relative to ambient and

runtime , you would have a value for referance. One other way to

remove a race is to weld lines across the roller surface to shrink

the fit then cool it down quick.

GregoryO'Connor

94ptRomolandCa



--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "one_dusty_hoot"

wrote:

>

> "I heard that!" Howard, "Git er done"

> 3 of us were Northbound on I-75 when the front end

> started doing the shimey, shimey, coco bop. Pulled

> over, checked all tires, good?? Asked one of the

> fellows to ease the coach along while I watched.

> The right front wheel was doing S'es. Called a tow

> in Valdosta, Ga, fellow said it was a shop job.

> Here it is late Saturday after dark, wow! He cut

> the inner race off with a torch, thought it was going

> to take the hardness out of the axle. Sunday morning,

> he called someone about 50 miles away who was up. Went

> there got what he needed and we were on our way, lucky.

> The wheel bearings had just been cleaned and packed?

> Bad service? Fatigued bearing? Experience, yes! 77FC31

>

> Bob janes, 87FC35, greenville, sc

>

>

>

>

>

> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Howard O. Truitt"

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi All,

> > I recently heard a strange popping noise in my right front wheel.

> It was hardly noticeable but I called a friend of mine who has a

> local truck shop. I've been down in my back and hurt it again last

> week taking out the Sharp microvave. He pulled the wheel and

checked

> the bearing and it needed replacing. I had the seal replaced also.

> He said he normally has to do this job on the side of the road. He

> said it appeared to be the original bearing and Stemco seal. I had

> him do the other side even though he said it was ok. I told him now

> was the time not later on the side of the road. The oil level was

> fine on both sides.

> > So listen closely!

> > Howard Truitt

> > Camilla, Ga.

> > 86 PT40

> > "Sowega"

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>














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12-28-2006, 22:05
Post: #5
Front wheel seals and bearings
Hi Howard I guess I was thinking wrong when I though if you could see
the oil level in the hubs that they were fine. What is the advantage of the
Stemco hubs over the old bearings that you just packed. What does the 90Wt oil
do if it doesn't lub the hub???
Don
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA

Hi All,
I recently heard a strange popping noise in my right front wheel. It was
hardly noticeable but I called a friend of mine who has a local truck shop.
I've
been down in my back and hurt it again last week taking out the Sharp
microvave. He pulled the wheel and checked the bearing and it needed replacing.
I
had the seal replaced also. He said he normally has to do this job on the side
of the road. He said it appeared to be the original bearing and Stemco seal.
I had him do the other side even though he said it was ok. I told him now
was the time not later on the side of the road. The oil level was fine on both
sides.
So listen closely!
Howard Truitt





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12-29-2006, 00:15
Post: #6
Front wheel seals and bearings
Thanks Mike I always keep a close check on that oil Level:
Don
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA

Oil hub covers have a site line close to the outside diameter of the plastic
form. Oil level at the line is all good. It's a good plan to change wheel
bearings AND races at 100 k miles, particularly with a well loaded BB
suspension. High way trucks don't use grease often, but you got to watch the
level.
Leaks can develop.
Mike Hohnstein
Germantown, WI
83FC35






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12-29-2006, 02:32
Post: #7
Front wheel seals and bearings
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Howard O. Truitt"
wrote:
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And a happy New Year to you all!

Been there twice, replaced the bearing and seal. The third time I
decided to change the grease to a oil bearing, so I can check the
level at the hub. Easy conversion at litle increase in price as to
just replacing the bearings and seals, but no problem since on two
cross country trips including Baja California.

Kurt in NH
83 FCSB 35' (for sale)
97 BB BMC 37'






> Hi All,
> I recently heard a strange popping noise in my right front wheel.
It was hardly noticeable but I called a friend of mine who has a
local truck shop. I've been down in my back and hurt it again last
week taking out the Sharp microvave. He pulled the wheel and checked
the bearing and it needed replacing. I had the seal replaced also.
He said he normally has to do this job on the side of the road. He
said it appeared to be the original bearing and Stemco seal. I had
him do the other side even though he said it was ok. I told him now
was the time not later on the side of the road. The oil level was
fine on both sides.
> So listen closely!
> Howard Truitt
> Camilla, Ga.
> 86 PT40
> "Sowega"
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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12-29-2006, 03:32
Post: #8
Front wheel seals and bearings
Oil hub covers have a site line close to the outside diameter of the plastic
form. Oil level at the line is all good. It's a good plan to change wheel
bearings AND races at 100 k miles, particularly with a well loaded BB
suspension. High way trucks don't use grease often, but you got to watch the
level. Leaks can develop.
Mike Hohnstein
Germantown, WI
83FC35
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Hi Howard I guess I was thinking wrong when I though if you could see
the oil level in the hubs that they were fine. What is the advantage of the
Stemco hubs over the old bearings that you just packed. What does the 90Wt oil
do if it doesn't lub the hub???
Don
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA

Hi All,
I recently heard a strange popping noise in my right front wheel. It was
hardly noticeable but I called a friend of mine who has a local truck shop.
I've
been down in my back and hurt it again last week taking out the Sharp
microvave. He pulled the wheel and checked the bearing and it needed
replacing. I
had the seal replaced also. He said he normally has to do this job on the side
of the road. He said it appeared to be the original bearing and Stemco seal.
I had him do the other side even though he said it was ok. I told him now
was the time not later on the side of the road. The oil level was fine on both
sides.
So listen closely!
Howard Truitt

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12-29-2006, 04:59
Post: #9
Front wheel seals and bearings
I'll watch for that Howard
Don
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA

Don,
Even in a situation where the oil is at the proper level the bearings will
wear over time to a point where there is loose play in the race. That is what
causes the noise and the bearings and seals need replacing.
Keep a watch on the back side of the tires for any oil a sure sign of a seal
leak.
Howard Truitt
Camilla, Ga.
"Sowega"
86 PT40






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12-29-2006, 07:38
Post: #10
Front wheel seals and bearings
Don,
Even in a situation where the oil is at the proper level the bearings will wear
over time to a point where there is loose play in the race. That is what causes
the noise and the bearings and seals need replacing.
Keep a watch on the back side of the tires for any oil a sure sign of a seal
leak.
Howard Truitt
Camilla, Ga.
"Sowega"
86 PT40


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Hi Howard I guess I was thinking wrong when I though if you could see
the oil level in the hubs that they were fine. What is the advantage of the
Stemco hubs over the old bearings that you just packed. What does the 90Wt oil
do if it doesn't lub the hub???
Don
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA

Hi All,
I recently heard a strange popping noise in my right front wheel. It was
hardly noticeable but I called a friend of mine who has a local truck shop.
I've
been down in my back and hurt it again last week taking out the Sharp
microvave. He pulled the wheel and checked the bearing and it needed
replacing. I
had the seal replaced also. He said he normally has to do this job on the side
of the road. He said it appeared to be the original bearing and Stemco seal.
I had him do the other side even though he said it was ok. I told him now
was the time not later on the side of the road. The oil level was fine on both
sides.
So listen closely!
Howard Truitt

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