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Newbie with warning buzzer sounding
05-01-2005, 08:35
Post: #1
Newbie with warning buzzer sounding
Well I am now officially a newbie since I took delivery on the bus I
bought back in January today (the person I bought the bus from stored
it for me until Spring). Everything seems fine except for a warning
buzzer that sounded for about 30-45 minutes in the dash area. The
previous owner said that the buzzer was sounding due to a discharged
genset battery. The genset worked fine with a jump but we did not run
it long enough for it to recharge. He said the buzzer would go off as
soon as the battery was fully discharged but in the meantime it would
sound the buzzer. All systems seemed fine so I drove it home with the
annoying buzzer buzzing. It finally went off except for a few
intermitant buzzes. Can anyone confirm the previous owner contention
regarding the genset battery? Oil temp and pressure were in the
normal range, engine temp was fine, the air pressure was about 125
PSI, the transmission temp was on the low side, just off the peg. I
hope I did not do the wrong thing by driving it.

Steve Meach
85 FC35
Paw Paw, MI
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05-01-2005, 11:45
Post: #2
Newbie with warning buzzer sounding
If you got a buzzer when hitting bumps, likely a leveling jack is
hanging and the jack warning buzzer will go off when it bounces.

There is also the headlamp warning buzzer, key-off/lights-on,
sometimes a low-voltage from the ignition switch will cause this
occasionally with the lights on.

Next would be the low-air-pressure buzzer which I think you
mentioned, and overhead the beepers for water-in-racor and shoreline.
I think this covers it?

- Jeff Miller
http://www.wanderlodge.net
http://www.millercoachworks.com


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "SFMEACH" <sfmeach@y...>
wrote:
> Well I am now officially a newbie since I took delivery on the bus
I
> bought back in January today (the person I bought the bus from
stored
> it for me until Spring). Everything seems fine except for a
warning
> buzzer that sounded for about 30-45 minutes in the dash area. The
> previous owner said that the buzzer was sounding due to a
discharged
> genset battery. The genset worked fine with a jump but we did not
run
> it long enough for it to recharge. He said the buzzer would go off
as
> soon as the battery was fully discharged but in the meantime it
would
> sound the buzzer. All systems seemed fine so I drove it home with
the
> annoying buzzer buzzing. It finally went off except for a few
> intermitant buzzes. Can anyone confirm the previous owner
contention
> regarding the genset battery? Oil temp and pressure were in the
> normal range, engine temp was fine, the air pressure was about 125
> PSI, the transmission temp was on the low side, just off the peg.
I
> hope I did not do the wrong thing by driving it.
>
> Steve Meach
> 85 FC35
> Paw Paw, MI
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05-01-2005, 12:01
Post: #3
Newbie with warning buzzer sounding
Steve,

Congrats on your new coach.

There are a few reasons for the buzzer, I don't believe any are
related to the generator battery. With an old bird though, you never
know what's been changed around or added.

An engine alarm buzzer (and light NOT from the same signal wire)
A low air buzzer (and light which come off the same sender)
A headlight alert buzzer (and light from the same sender)
A leveling jacks not UP alert (and lights if you have the master
switch on - not sure how they're related)

If you have no light (assuming all lights work, which you can check
by activating the associated system. The engine alarm should come on
with the engine off and key on, may take a few moments though.) I
would guess you have a leveling jack not quite all the way up or a
misaligned or bad mercury switch on it. From your post, I'm assuming
you have no associated light.

The buzzers are all behind the drivers headlight panel. You can
always open the panel and see which one is on, note the wire color,
and post again to have it checked on a schematic for you. You can
also change out these annoying buzzers for some friendlier chimes
from your local NAPA store.

One last buzzer is the Racor water in fuel alarm and light on the
overhead panel. (I think it's on the overhead in your '85)

Gary Miller
83 FC 33
Wauwatosa, WI

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "SFMEACH" <sfmeach@y...>
wrote:
> Well I am now officially a newbie since I took delivery on the bus
I
> bought back in January today (the person I bought the bus from
stored
> it for me until Spring). Everything seems fine except for a
warning
> buzzer that sounded for about 30-45 minutes in the dash area. The
> previous owner said that the buzzer was sounding due to a
discharged
> genset battery. The genset worked fine with a jump but we did not
run
> it long enough for it to recharge. He said the buzzer would go off
as
> soon as the battery was fully discharged but in the meantime it
would
> sound the buzzer. All systems seemed fine so I drove it home with
the
> annoying buzzer buzzing. It finally went off except for a few
> intermitant buzzes. Can anyone confirm the previous owner
contention
> regarding the genset battery? Oil temp and pressure were in the
> normal range, engine temp was fine, the air pressure was about 125
> PSI, the transmission temp was on the low side, just off the peg.
I
> hope I did not do the wrong thing by driving it.
>
> Steve Meach
> 85 FC35
> Paw Paw, MI
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05-01-2005, 12:17
Post: #4
Newbie with warning buzzer sounding
How could I have forgotten about the engine alert buzzer? Oh yes,
they're often disconnected.

The low-coolant sensor is the most common cause of this one, screwed
into the upper tank of the radiator on the curbside rear. Often
disconnected. Check coolant level. It might have risen enough when
the engine was warm to turn off this buzzer. In this case you might
also need to replace the engine alert light.

- Jeff Miller
http://www.wanderlodge.net
http://www.millercoachworks.com


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Miller"
wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Congrats on your new coach.
>
> There are a few reasons for the buzzer, I don't believe any are
> related to the generator battery. With an old bird though, you
never
> know what's been changed around or added.
>
> An engine alarm buzzer (and light NOT from the same signal wire)
> A low air buzzer (and light which come off the same sender)
> A headlight alert buzzer (and light from the same sender)
> A leveling jacks not UP alert (and lights if you have the master
> switch on - not sure how they're related)<<snip>>
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05-01-2005, 12:20
Post: #5
Newbie with warning buzzer sounding
Steve, Congratulations on your new coach. We also have a FC and love
it...Between Jeff and Gary you prolly got the most accumulative
knowledge of BB out there today.. They can put you on the money
with "issues" that crop up. Did the engine coolant light come on when
you got the buzzer? If you have low coolant but engine temp ok
sometimes when going over bumps it will sound..I know from
experiance.. you might want to check the coolant level just a
thought.
Scott
86FC35
Murrells Inlet SC "right next to heaven"
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Miller"
wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Congrats on your new coach.
>
> There are a few reasons for the buzzer, I don't believe any are
> related to the generator battery. With an old bird though, you
never
> know what's been changed around or added.
>
> An engine alarm buzzer (and light NOT from the same signal wire)
> A low air buzzer (and light which come off the same sender)
> A headlight alert buzzer (and light from the same sender)
> A leveling jacks not UP alert (and lights if you have the master
> switch on - not sure how they're related)
>
> If you have no light (assuming all lights work, which you can check
> by activating the associated system. The engine alarm should come
on
> with the engine off and key on, may take a few moments though.) I
> would guess you have a leveling jack not quite all the way up or a
> misaligned or bad mercury switch on it. From your post, I'm
assuming
> you have no associated light.
>
> The buzzers are all behind the drivers headlight panel. You can
> always open the panel and see which one is on, note the wire color,
> and post again to have it checked on a schematic for you. You can
> also change out these annoying buzzers for some friendlier chimes
> from your local NAPA store.
>
> One last buzzer is the Racor water in fuel alarm and light on the
> overhead panel. (I think it's on the overhead in your '85)
>
> Gary Miller
> 83 FC 33
> Wauwatosa, WI
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "SFMEACH" <sfmeach@y...>
> wrote:
> > Well I am now officially a newbie since I took delivery on the
bus
> I
> > bought back in January today (the person I bought the bus from
> stored
> > it for me until Spring). Everything seems fine except for a
> warning
> > buzzer that sounded for about 30-45 minutes in the dash area.
The
> > previous owner said that the buzzer was sounding due to a
> discharged
> > genset battery. The genset worked fine with a jump but we did
not
> run
> > it long enough for it to recharge. He said the buzzer would go
off
> as
> > soon as the battery was fully discharged but in the meantime it
> would
> > sound the buzzer. All systems seemed fine so I drove it home
with
> the
> > annoying buzzer buzzing. It finally went off except for a few
> > intermitant buzzes. Can anyone confirm the previous owner
> contention
> > regarding the genset battery? Oil temp and pressure were in the
> > normal range, engine temp was fine, the air pressure was about
125
> > PSI, the transmission temp was on the low side, just off the
peg.
> I
> > hope I did not do the wrong thing by driving it.
> >
> > Steve Meach
> > 85 FC35
> > Paw Paw, MI
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05-01-2005, 12:30
Post: #6
Newbie with warning buzzer sounding
Thanks Jeff, Gary and Scott for the tips. I will check the leveling
jacks and sensors as well as the coolant level. Both sound like
likely causes. I am glad that it probably was nothing that was
serious that could have caused damage to the driveline.

Steve Meach
85FC35
Paw Paw, MI

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
wrote:
> Steve, Congratulations on your new coach. We also have a FC and
love
> it...Between Jeff and Gary you prolly got the most accumulative
> knowledge of BB out there today.. They can put you on the money
> with "issues" that crop up. Did the engine coolant light come on
when
> you got the buzzer? If you have low coolant but engine temp ok
> sometimes when going over bumps it will sound..I know from
> experiance.. you might want to check the coolant level just a
> thought.
> Scott
> 86FC35
> Murrells Inlet SC "right next to heaven"
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Miller"
> wrote:
> > Steve,
> >
> > Congrats on your new coach.
> >
> > There are a few reasons for the buzzer, I don't believe any are
> > related to the generator battery. With an old bird though, you
> never
> > know what's been changed around or added.
> >
> > An engine alarm buzzer (and light NOT from the same signal wire)
> > A low air buzzer (and light which come off the same sender)
> > A headlight alert buzzer (and light from the same sender)
> > A leveling jacks not UP alert (and lights if you have the master
> > switch on - not sure how they're related)
> >
> > If you have no light (assuming all lights work, which you can
check
> > by activating the associated system. The engine alarm should
come
> on
> > with the engine off and key on, may take a few moments though.)
I
> > would guess you have a leveling jack not quite all the way up or
a
> > misaligned or bad mercury switch on it. From your post, I'm
> assuming
> > you have no associated light.
> >
> > The buzzers are all behind the drivers headlight panel. You can
> > always open the panel and see which one is on, note the wire
color,
> > and post again to have it checked on a schematic for you. You
can
> > also change out these annoying buzzers for some friendlier
chimes
> > from your local NAPA store.
> >
> > One last buzzer is the Racor water in fuel alarm and light on
the
> > overhead panel. (I think it's on the overhead in your '85)
> >
> > Gary Miller
> > 83 FC 33
> > Wauwatosa, WI
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "SFMEACH"
<sfmeach@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Well I am now officially a newbie since I took delivery on the
> bus
> > I
> > > bought back in January today (the person I bought the bus from
> > stored
> > > it for me until Spring). Everything seems fine except for a
> > warning
> > > buzzer that sounded for about 30-45 minutes in the dash area.
> The
> > > previous owner said that the buzzer was sounding due to a
> > discharged
> > > genset battery. The genset worked fine with a jump but we did
> not
> > run
> > > it long enough for it to recharge. He said the buzzer would
go
> off
> > as
> > > soon as the battery was fully discharged but in the meantime
it
> > would
> > > sound the buzzer. All systems seemed fine so I drove it home
> with
> > the
> > > annoying buzzer buzzing. It finally went off except for a few
> > > intermitant buzzes. Can anyone confirm the previous owner
> > contention
> > > regarding the genset battery? Oil temp and pressure were in
the
> > > normal range, engine temp was fine, the air pressure was about
> 125
> > > PSI, the transmission temp was on the low side, just off the
> peg.
> > I
> > > hope I did not do the wrong thing by driving it.
> > >
> > > Steve Meach
> > > 85 FC35
> > > Paw Paw, MI
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05-01-2005, 12:44
Post: #7
Newbie with warning buzzer sounding
Maybe???...I had a frequent beep (not buzzer) in our PT38 and discovered
it coming from the radar detector.

Curt Sprenger ‘87PT38, Anaheim, Calif.
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05-01-2005, 21:52
Post: #8
Newbie with warning buzzer sounding
Steve ,My check engine light & buzzer came on intermitanly & the gauges were
good. I took the old sensor unit out of the rad & took it to a BlueBird
garage near me & they matched it up with a one. The new one was grounded & the
old one wasn't. The guy in the parts called their shop foreman & he said it
didn't need to be grounded if the rad was grounded. Sense the new one had a
ground screw on it I went ahead & grounded it. That was all it needed. Works
fine.
Don
89SP 36'
Butler, PA


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05-01-2005, 23:44
Post: #9
Newbie with warning buzzer sounding
Steve,
One more point. My buzzer and light came on with temps. Oil and Water
OK.

Benny at BB indicated that the sensor on the top left side of the
radiator had to be grounded. In my case the wire, which you can reach
and feel from the doghouse, had been rubbing against the AC pully and
broke.

Kurt
83FC35 in NH(again 28° this morning)





--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "SFMEACH" <sfmeach@y...>
wrote:
> Thanks Jeff, Gary and Scott for the tips. I will check the
leveling
> jacks and sensors as well as the coolant level. Both sound like
> likely causes. I am glad that it probably was nothing that was
> serious that could have caused damage to the driveline.
>
> Steve Meach
> 85FC35
> Paw Paw, MI
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
> wrote:
> > Steve, Congratulations on your new coach. We also have a FC and
> love
> > it...Between Jeff and Gary you prolly got the most accumulative
> > knowledge of BB out there today.. They can put you on the money
> > with "issues" that crop up. Did the engine coolant light come on
> when
> > you got the buzzer? If you have low coolant but engine temp ok
> > sometimes when going over bumps it will sound..I know from
> > experiance.. you might want to check the coolant level just a
> > thought.
> > Scott
> > 86FC35
> > Murrells Inlet SC "right next to heaven"
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Miller"
> > wrote:
> > > Steve,
> > >
> > > Congrats on your new coach.
> > >
> > > There are a few reasons for the buzzer, I don't believe any are
> > > related to the generator battery. With an old bird though, you
> > never
> > > know what's been changed around or added.
> > >
> > > An engine alarm buzzer (and light NOT from the same signal wire)
> > > A low air buzzer (and light which come off the same sender)
> > > A headlight alert buzzer (and light from the same sender)
> > > A leveling jacks not UP alert (and lights if you have the
master
> > > switch on - not sure how they're related)
> > >
> > > If you have no light (assuming all lights work, which you can
> check
> > > by activating the associated system. The engine alarm should
> come
> > on
> > > with the engine off and key on, may take a few moments though.)
> I
> > > would guess you have a leveling jack not quite all the way up
or
> a
> > > misaligned or bad mercury switch on it. From your post, I'm
> > assuming
> > > you have no associated light.
> > >
> > > The buzzers are all behind the drivers headlight panel. You
can
> > > always open the panel and see which one is on, note the wire
> color,
> > > and post again to have it checked on a schematic for you. You
> can
> > > also change out these annoying buzzers for some friendlier
> chimes
> > > from your local NAPA store.
> > >
> > > One last buzzer is the Racor water in fuel alarm and light on
> the
> > > overhead panel. (I think it's on the overhead in your '85)
> > >
> > > Gary Miller
> > > 83 FC 33
> > > Wauwatosa, WI
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "SFMEACH"
> <sfmeach@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Well I am now officially a newbie since I took delivery on
the
> > bus
> > > I
> > > > bought back in January today (the person I bought the bus
from
> > > stored
> > > > it for me until Spring). Everything seems fine except for a
> > > warning
> > > > buzzer that sounded for about 30-45 minutes in the dash
area.
> > The
> > > > previous owner said that the buzzer was sounding due to a
> > > discharged
> > > > genset battery. The genset worked fine with a jump but we
did
> > not
> > > run
> > > > it long enough for it to recharge. He said the buzzer would
> go
> > off
> > > as
> > > > soon as the battery was fully discharged but in the meantime
> it
> > > would
> > > > sound the buzzer. All systems seemed fine so I drove it home
> > with
> > > the
> > > > annoying buzzer buzzing. It finally went off except for a
few
> > > > intermitant buzzes. Can anyone confirm the previous owner
> > > contention
> > > > regarding the genset battery? Oil temp and pressure were in
> the
> > > > normal range, engine temp was fine, the air pressure was
about
> > 125
> > > > PSI, the transmission temp was on the low side, just off the
> > peg.
> > > I
> > > > hope I did not do the wrong thing by driving it.
> > > >
> > > > Steve Meach
> > > > 85 FC35
> > > > Paw Paw, MI
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