Tools and Fixit Stuff

[runnerful]

Hi Curt,

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger
wrote:
>
> Ginger,
>
> The Bluebird Options List for 1987 is on its way to you.

Got it! Thanks. :-)
>
> Yes, some tools should be carried, screwdrivers of various
> lengths.sizes, pliers, 1/4" drive socket set with shallow and deep
> sockets,

I assume metric tools need not apply?

>assortment of 1 amp to 20 amp glass fuses, 12V test light, tire
> air gauge, and more.

Yes, I hear mention of the voltmeter frequently hearabouts.

> If the tools are going to be used for working on the Bird, say
little
> use, then you can get buy with the less expensive brands.

I think I'll concentrate on Sears and Canadian Tire in that case.
>
> Simple common jobs...check tire pressure, be able to use a 12V
test
> light for locating and changing out burned out 12V fuses, change
light
> bulbs, fill water tank, dump holding tanks, frequently check
battery
> water level and add distilled water when needed, to mention a few.

I'm sure I can deal with these tasks.

Thanks for taking the time to answer,
Ginger
BB wannabee
Toronto, Ont

[Stephen Birtles]

e.b. horsman in terrace you can order bulbs by the case around 6 bucks
each for quantity 12 plus tax tax unless in bc you are harnmonized
then just tax

But just think these ballasts will fire in the winter even up there
down to minus 30C

Stephen 77fc35


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Wilhelmus Schreurs
wrote:
>
> Very true Stephen, but you forgot to add a bulb and shipping, hmmm
how much change would one get then??
>
> Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
> Terrace, B.C. Canada
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Stephen Birtles
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 2:14:39 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Tools and Fixit Stuff
>
> Reballast the fluorescent lights only 24 for the small light and 34
> for the large ones not fifty
> Stepehen 77fc35
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Wilhelmus Schreurs
> wrote:
> >
> > Ginger;
> > I purchased myself a BB last year, and like others have said, be
> prepared to spend additional monies to have it right.
> > I bought mine from Randy Dupree, and some of the costly items that
> has to be replaced or repaired had already been done. Things such as:
> > Tires - cost $3000
> > Fridge - used to new - $500 - 1800
> > Inverter instead of rediline - $1500 - 2500
> > Batteries - 4 each - $400
> >
> > During the past couple of months I have had to do such things as:
> > Rear furnace was blowing soot - required a few items $50
> > Repair leaks to the entry step - time required
> > Flourescent lighting - replaced some but now have to buy more parts
> figure $50 per lamp
> >
> >
> > Items done recently at a mechanic shop, I was helping him, hey this
> was very helpful, some things I will be able to do myself next time,
> other things will take back for him to do:
> > Engine oil changed
> > Air dryer dessicant changed, oil leaking from spitter valve
> > Ground wire repaired from alternator - that fixed my erratic charging
> > Installed valve for electric air compressor
> > Replaced broken front brake air line
> > Replaced very damaged fuel line from primer pump
> > Lubricated Chassis
> > Replaced filter for engine air compressor
> > Replaced both front automatic brake adjusters
> >
> > Also while under the coach, there were wires off from the fuel tank
> etc. We inspected it, checked it twice and made another list of
> things which has to be done.
> >
> > The cost was well worth the $600 of knowledge which I picked up.
> >
> > As you read, most of the items was of a mechanical nature, my weak
> point. I am an industrial electrician so that helps with the
> electrical part.
> >
> > So, what am I trying to say, purchase the best that you can afford,
> but pay attention to the major items such as listed above. Find out
> what kind of maintenance has been done on the engine, regular oil
> changes is almost a must.
> > This will also determine what kind of tool chest that you will
> require on the road. If you have to continue to fix it as you go,
> well, have a good tool chest ready.
> > Also, from experience, don't buy the cheapie tools, does not have to
> be the best either though, screwdriver tips break off, wrench corners
> will become round, knuckle busters, and you will curse yourself for
> buying them.
> > I like craftsman tools from Sears, fairly good tool, and exchange
> policy for broken tools is the best, take it in and they will replace,
> no questions asked, and without a receipt.
> >
> > One last question, where u from?
> >
> > Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
> > Terrace, B.C. Canada
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: runnerful
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 11:16:14 AM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Tools and Fixit Stuff
> >
> > I don't have much of a tool collestion: a hammer, screw driver, vice
> > grips. If I need anything fancier, I want it to come with its own
> > operator.
> >
> > I realise that as a BB owner, I should develop some "fixit" skills
> > and an appropriate arsenal of tools. I also notice that some birds
> > come with a HUGE tool chest in one of the roll out trays.
> >
> > 1. Is this tool chest a standard item?
> > 2. Is it useful?
> > 3. What is the "must have" list of tools for a low to average skill
> > owner?
> > 4. Are brand name tools like Dewalt worth their extra cost over
> > store brand tools?
> > 5. What are some of the relatively simple, common jobs I should be
> > prepared to do?
> >
> > I appreciate your input,
> > Ginger
> > BB wannabee
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[Rob Robinson]

Metric tools do apply in some cases. I notice that there are a lot of metric
nuts and bolts on my Kubota powered generator. I recently replaced the genny
water pump, fan belt, thermostat, idler pulley with mostly metric wrenches.

On 20/05/07, runnerful wrote:
>
> Hi Curt,
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> Curt Sprenger
> wrote:
> >
> > Ginger,
> >
> > The Bluebird Options List for 1987 is on its way to you.
>
> Got it! Thanks. :-)
> >
> > Yes, some tools should be carried, screwdrivers of various
> > lengths.sizes, pliers, 1/4" drive socket set with shallow and deep
> > sockets,
>
> I assume metric tools need not apply?
>
> >assortment of 1 amp to 20 amp glass fuses, 12V test light, tire
> > air gauge, and more.
>
> Yes, I hear mention of the voltmeter frequently hearabouts.
>
> > If the tools are going to be used for working on the Bird, say
> little
> > use, then you can get buy with the less expensive brands.
>
> I think I'll concentrate on Sears and Canadian Tire in that case.
> >
> > Simple common jobs...check tire pressure, be able to use a 12V
> test
> > light for locating and changing out burned out 12V fuses, change
> light
> > bulbs, fill water tank, dump holding tanks, frequently check
> battery
> > water level and add distilled water when needed, to mention a few.
>
> I'm sure I can deal with these tasks.
>
> Thanks for taking the time to answer,
> Ginger
> BB wannabee
> Toronto, Ont
>
>
>



--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Gardner Yeaw]

Ginger,
These guys are all lying to you. Bird owners and tools are like
Imelda Marcos and shoes. We really don't care much about our
coaches, but they are a great excuse to buy tools!

(just kidding, I think)

Gardner
78FC33


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "runnerful"
wrote:
>
> I don't have much of a tool collestion: a hammer, screw driver,
vice
> grips. If I need anything fancier, I want it to come with its own
> operator.
>
> I realise that as a BB owner, I should develop some "fixit" skills
> and an appropriate arsenal of tools. I also notice that some birds
> come with a HUGE tool chest in one of the roll out trays.
>
> 1. Is this tool chest a standard item?
> 2. Is it useful?
> 3. What is the "must have" list of tools for a low to average
skill
> owner?
> 4. Are brand name tools like Dewalt worth their extra cost over
> store brand tools?
> 5. What are some of the relatively simple, common jobs I should
be
> prepared to do?
>
> I appreciate your input,
> Ginger
> BB wannabee
>

[runnerful]

Hey Gardner, I was born at night but not LAST night. I know about
guys and tools. LOL

Ginger
BB wannabee
Toronto, Ont

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw"
wrote:
>
> Ginger,
> These guys are all lying to you. Bird owners and tools are like
> Imelda Marcos and shoes. We really don't care much about our
> coaches, but they are a great excuse to buy tools!
>
> (just kidding, I think)
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33

[Pete Masterson]

I have both English and metric tools... often the metric will fit a
slightly damaged English measure nut... and in other cases, the fit
is 'close enouogh' e.g. 13mm = 1/2 inch. And, as mentioned, the
generator may have a Japanese engine (in my case a Kubota). Some of
the appliances inside may also be Japanese or otherwise use metric
measure bolts/nuts etc.

A volt meter or multi-meter (learn how to use it) is indispensable.
Low voltage is a frequent symptom that causes various difficulties.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Lockhart Texas



On May 20, 2007, at 7:05 PM, Rob Robinson wrote:

> Metric tools do apply in some cases. I notice that there are a lot
> of metric
> nuts and bolts on my Kubota powered generator. I recently replaced
> the genny
> water pump, fan belt, thermostat, idler pulley with mostly metric
> wrenches.
>
> On 20/05/07, runnerful wrote:
>>
>> Hi Curt,
>>
>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com >> 40yahoogroups.com>,
>> Curt Sprenger
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ginger,
>>>
>>> The Bluebird Options List for 1987 is on its way to you.
>>
>> Got it! Thanks. :-)
>>>
>>> Yes, some tools should be carried, screwdrivers of various
>>> lengths.sizes, pliers, 1/4" drive socket set with shallow and deep
>>> sockets,
>>
>> I assume metric tools need not apply?
>> <snip>

>> Yes, I hear mention of the voltmeter frequently hearabouts.
<snip>

[Gardner Yeaw]

Ginger,
One of my best purchases for the Bird was a toolkit from Home
Depot. I don't remember the brand, but it was a case with 1/4, 3/8,
and 1/2 inch drive sets with both metric and standard sockets plus a
set of combination wrenches. Each piece has a snap-in designated
place in the kit, so you know when you are finished working that ALL
the components of the kit have been returned to the case.

Gardner
78FC33

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "runnerful"
wrote:
>
> Hey Gardner, I was born at night but not LAST night. I know about
> guys and tools. LOL
>
> Ginger
> BB wannabee
> Toronto, Ont
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw"
> wrote:
> >
> > Ginger,
> > These guys are all lying to you. Bird owners and tools are
like
> > Imelda Marcos and shoes. We really don't care much about our
> > coaches, but they are a great excuse to buy tools!
> >
> > (just kidding, I think)
> >
> > Gardner
> > 78FC33
>

[Stephen Birtles]

use a 13mm on a half head you end up with bruised knuckles
12mm is the proer size. It is coincidentally the most im,portant
wrench in the collection
The famous half inch that fits almopst every lawnmower in the world
and whenyou lose it just use the equally famous 12mm wrench luckily
most modern tools sets sold today come with one of each
So you can misplace twice as many tools
Stephen 77fc35


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> I have both English and metric tools... often the metric will fit a
> slightly damaged English measure nut... and in other cases, the fit
> is 'close enouogh' e.g. 13mm = 1/2 inch. And, as mentioned, the
> generator may have a Japanese engine (in my case a Kubota). Some of
> the appliances inside may also be Japanese or otherwise use metric
> measure bolts/nuts etc.
>
> A volt meter or multi-meter (learn how to use it) is indispensable.
> Low voltage is a frequent symptom that causes various difficulties.
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at Lockhart Texas
>
>
>
> On May 20, 2007, at 7:05 PM, Rob Robinson wrote:
>
> > Metric tools do apply in some cases. I notice that there are a lot
> > of metric
> > nuts and bolts on my Kubota powered generator. I recently replaced
> > the genny
> > water pump, fan belt, thermostat, idler pulley with mostly metric
> > wrenches.
> >
> > On 20/05/07, runnerful wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Curt,
> >>
> >> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > >> 40yahoogroups.com>,
> >> Curt Sprenger
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ginger,
> >>>
> >>> The Bluebird Options List for 1987 is on its way to you.
> >>
> >> Got it! Thanks. :-)
> >>>
> >>> Yes, some tools should be carried, screwdrivers of various
> >>> lengths.sizes, pliers, 1/4" drive socket set with shallow and deep
> >>> sockets,
> >>
> >> I assume metric tools need not apply?
> >> <snip>
>
> >> Yes, I hear mention of the voltmeter frequently hearabouts.
> <snip>
>

[Stephen Birtles]

use a 13mm on a half inch head you end up with bruised knuckles
12mm is the proper size. It is coincidentally the most important
wrench in the collection
The famous half inch that fits almost every lawnmower in the world and
when you lose it just use the equally famous 12mm wrench luckily most
modern tools sets sold today come with one of each
So you can misplace twice as many tools
Stephen 77fc35 reposted with half the spelling mistakes


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> I have both English and metric tools... often the metric will fit a
> slightly damaged English measure nut... and in other cases, the fit
> is 'close enouogh' e.g. 13mm = 1/2 inch. And, as mentioned, the
> generator may have a Japanese engine (in my case a Kubota). Some of
> the appliances inside may also be Japanese or otherwise use metric
> measure bolts/nuts etc.
>
> A volt meter or multi-meter (learn how to use it) is indispensable.
> Low voltage is a frequent symptom that causes various difficulties.
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at Lockhart Texas
>
>
>
> On May 20, 2007, at 7:05 PM, Rob Robinson wrote:
>
> > Metric tools do apply in some cases. I notice that there are a lot
> > of metric
> > nuts and bolts on my Kubota powered generator. I recently replaced
> > the genny
> > water pump, fan belt, thermostat, idler pulley with mostly metric
> > wrenches.
> >
> > On 20/05/07, runnerful wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Curt,
> >>
> >> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > >> 40yahoogroups.com>,
> >> Curt Sprenger
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ginger,
> >>>
> >>> The Bluebird Options List for 1987 is on its way to you.
> >>
> >> Got it! Thanks. :-)
> >>>
> >>> Yes, some tools should be carried, screwdrivers of various
> >>> lengths.sizes, pliers, 1/4" drive socket set with shallow and deep
> >>> sockets,
> >>
> >> I assume metric tools need not apply?
> >> <snip>
>
> >> Yes, I hear mention of the voltmeter frequently hearabouts.
> <snip>
>

[Curt Sprenger]

Ginger,
You are welcome.

I do not recall ever needing a metric tool for either of our Birds.

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, Calif.



runnerful wrote:

> Hi Curt,
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> , Curt Sprenger
> wrote:
> >
> > Ginger,
> >
> > The Bluebird Options List for 1987 is on its way to you.
>
> Got it! Thanks. :-)
> >
> > Yes, some tools should be carried, screwdrivers of various
> > lengths.sizes, pliers, 1/4" drive socket set with shallow and deep
> > sockets,
>
> I assume metric tools need not apply?
>
> >assortment of 1 amp to 20 amp glass fuses, 12V test light, tire
> > air gauge, and more.
>
> Yes, I hear mention of the voltmeter frequently hearabouts.
>
> > If the tools are going to be used for working on the Bird, say
> little
> > use, then you can get buy with the less expensive brands.
>
> I think I'll concentrate on Sears and Canadian Tire in that case.
> >
> > Simple common jobs...check tire pressure, be able to use a 12V
> test
> > light for locating and changing out burned out 12V fuses, change
> light
> > bulbs, fill water tank, dump holding tanks, frequently check
> battery
> > water level and add distilled water when needed, to mention a few.
>
> I'm sure I can deal with these tasks.
>
> Thanks for taking the time to answer,
> Ginger
> BB wannabee
> Toronto, Ont
>
>