Aux Batt solenoid on PT

[Rob Robinson]

Thanks Stepehn. I have been planning on checking out my batteries. I was
thinking of buying my own load tester but you've given me food for thought.
I am a novice when it comes to electricity and appreciate

On 28/05/07, Stephen Birtles wrote:
>
> I would follow Curt's advice drag the batteries in to a dealer unless
> you a have either a inductive battery tester(midtronics) or a carbon
> pile tester( big piece of old technology got them both)
> The open voltage test does work as a benchmark (horsepower) but the
> testers will let you know how much load they sill stand before
> failure(torque) All the voltage in the world does not help if there is
> no load carrying capacity. A bad battery can still show good voltage
> but still show problems when under load
> While it is a lot of work to remove and replace the batteries there is
> a couple of things on the up side you can clean and repaint the
> battery tray,if the battery or batteries are at end of life you
> already have them at the dealer for recycling and finally you will
> save yourself 2 days messing around with the batteries and still have
> to drag them into the dealer. And yes the trojan site does give some
> helpful information
> For the multimeter for the unfamilar what I did was mark with
> permanent marker ac and dc above the symbols. Now I don't need my
> glasses to set the meter and there are no mistakes it is really easy
> to confuse the symbols when one like myself is optically challenged
> and can never find my peepers. And you don't need to spend the big
> bucks on a fluke when there are more reasonably priced meters on the
> market that do the same functions and give the same results. Sort of
> like buying a cadillac when you only need a volkswagen. And yes we
> have flukes and others all the way up to network and fiber testers and
> meters
> Stephen 77fc35
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> Tom Warner wrote:
> >
> > The V with a wavy line on a multimeter is for Alternating voltage,
> > and the V with 3 dots (actually 3 dashes with a bar over the top) is
> > for Direct Current voltage.
> >
> > The 12.1VDC (50% battery charged) or 12.4VDC(70% battery
> > charged) read across the battery terminals could just be that the
> > battery is discharged or partially discharged and/or has not been
> > charging. Its a lot of work to remove 4-6 or more 60# batteries and
> > cart them to an auto store to test when you can do it in a few
> > minutes without taking them out of the coach. But that is each
> > persons choice of course.
> >
> > I would suggest those interested read the general battery
> > maintenance information from Trojan Batteries although it pertains to
> > all batteries.
> >
> http://www.trojan-battery.com/Tech-Suppo...sting.aspx
>
> > Pay particular attention to the process of testing for specific
> > gravity (you need a hydrometer and I would advise everyone interested
> > in doing at least some of the maintenance on their coaches to buy
> > one). And if you really want to understand your charging system
> > including your alternator, chargers and batteries you really should
> > understand what the charging curves look like for voltage and
> > current. Just my opinion but Phfred has lots of really good
> > information on these subjects for RVers. Oh and a Fluke multimeter
> > is an excellent investment and will save you a lot of headaches.
> >
> > Tom Warner
> > vernon center,ny
> > 1985 PT 40
> >
> > At 10:21 PM 5/27/2007, you wrote:
> > >Scott,
> > >
> > >A bad battery could cause the 12.4 reading. Remove the battery, take it
>
> > >to an auto parts store, have them load test it. Could be a bad cell in
> > >the battery. I've experience battereis with a bad cell start engines,
> > >and then just die on the spot.
> > >
> > >What are the "modes" on your multimeter that you are using?
> > >
> > >We are here to help. Just keep the communication coming.
> > >
> > >Curt Sprenger
> > >1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > >Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Scott Forman wrote:
> > >
> > > > the gen batt read 12.1 before I started it, 12.4 after it was
> > > > running. I know that by the book 12.1v is a half-dead battery, but
> > > > it cranks awfully strong to be half dead. And the 12.4 isn't as high
> > > > as it should be, but since it is higher there is obviously some
> > > > charge getting to it...ideas?
> > > >
> > > > Another note...my multimeter has two "modes" that I don't really
> > > > understand. When I turn the dial to one setting, it read 12.4 with
> > > > generator running, on the other setting it read 26.5. Any idea what
> > > > this other mode is showing me?
> > > >
> > > > Much confusions over here
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Battery with no charge to it for about 20 minutes, approx 12.6
> > > > volts is
> > > > > good. Battery receiving a charge, 13.4+ volts...unless you
> have the
> > > > > smart chargers that are in the sleep mode.
> > > > >
> > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > And what voltage should it show when charging?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > > > > , "pattypape"
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > TO be assured that the gen battery is charging under all
> > > > > > conditions,
> > > > > > > check with the shore power, then generator running , then the
> > > > > > engine
> > > > > > > alternator running and charging.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > > > > , "Scott Forman"
> > > > <sforman@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Isn't it all one circuit?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > > > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Agree. Good.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Do the same test using shore power.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > OK, the voltage went up with the gen running. So I guess
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > circuit
> > > > > > > > > > works.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > , Curt
> Sprenger
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > Have you used your multimeter and checked the
> voltage at
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > gen.
> > > > > > > > > > > battery? First before you start the gen. Than again
> > > > after
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > gen.
> > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > running. The increase in voltage when the gen. is
> > > > running
> > > > > > > tells
> > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > that the charge circuit is working. No change in
> > > > voltage, or
> > > > > > > > > > lower,
> > > > > > > > > > > you know the charge is not working.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm..."what is your problem"...there's a wide
> ranging
> > > > > > > > > > question....
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Really I don't have a problem right now. I am just
> > > > trying
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > learn
> > > > > > > > > > > > my new coach. I knew my old FC inside and out, and
> > > > that
> > > > > > > gave
> > > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > confidence that if I ever had a problem on the road,
> > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > > > diagnose it & fix it. I want to feel that way
> about my
> > > > > > PT,
> > > > > > > > too. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > also want to make sure that the charging circuit is
> > > > > > > charging
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > generator battery as it is supposed to.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > May I be so bold as to ask what is your problem?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 08:17:02 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Aux Batt
> solenoid
> > > > on
> > > > > > PT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK...a little help...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are solenoids all over the place. There's
> > > > one
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > front
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wall of the batter charger compartment.
> There are
> > > > two
> > > > > > > > others
> > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > metal panel that folds down to give access
> to the
> > > > > > > charger
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > compartment. And there are three of them behind
> > > > the
> > > > > > > step
> > > > > > > > well,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > although it looks like two of them are for the
> > > > > > leveling
> > > > > > > > pump.
> > > > > > > > > > > > None
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of these make the audible "click" when I hit the
> > > > Aux
> > > > > > > Batt
> > > > > > > > > > > > switch.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The drawings in my Blue Box aren't as
> > > > comprehensive
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > my FC, so I am having trouble figuring all this
> > > > out.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On my 86 PT40 mine is in the compartment with
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > chargers.
> > > > > > > > > > But
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > knowing BB and your coach being a 38 footer it
> > > > may be
> > > > > > > > > > different.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 02:53:55 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
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> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Aux Batt
> solenoid
> > > > on
> > > > > > PT
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where is the auxillary battery solenoid on a
> > > > PT?
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