I have to post this

[jwasnewski]

The entry step system on our BB's must have been high tech talking
points in the day. After 7 hours of rewiring,installing new parts,
troubleshooting and adjusting, making the thing work,there has to be a
better way to open the door, extend and retract the step and turn two
lights on and off.

Regards;

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL

[Pete Masterson]

You mean your 'well' lights work with the door?

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
on the road near Evergreen CO



On Jun 9, 2007, at 8:08 PM, jwasnewski wrote:

> The entry step system on our BB's must have been high tech talking
> points in the day. After 7 hours of rewiring,installing new parts,
> troubleshooting and adjusting, making the thing work,there has to be a
> better way to open the door, extend and retract the step and turn two
> lights on and off.
>
> Regards;
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL

[Leroy Eckert]

Yes, on my coach there is a 3 way switch near the step well and it turns the
well light on when the door is opened. Also the step light. Or you have the
option of doing it manually. It is not easy to figure out. I have some feedback
in my stepwell light, glows slightly at night, I suspect a faulty ground
somewhere. At this point I will tackle that another day.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this


You mean your 'well' lights work with the door?

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
on the road near Evergreen CO

On Jun 9, 2007, at 8:08 PM, jwasnewski wrote:

> The entry step system on our BB's must have been high tech talking
> points in the day. After 7 hours of rewiring,installing new parts,
> troubleshooting and adjusting, making the thing work,there has to be a
> better way to open the door, extend and retract the step and turn two
> lights on and off.
>
> Regards;
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL





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[Pete Masterson]

Ok... my well light switch has 3 positions, on-off-on. I guess the
door switch, presumably hidden behind the fabric covering the hinge,
is stuck in the on position. Another project for the list...

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road near Evergreen Colorado



On Jun 9, 2007, at 8:48 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> Yes, on my coach there is a 3 way switch near the step well and it
> turns the well light on when the door is opened. Also the step
> light. Or you have the option of doing it manually. It is not easy
> to figure out. I have some feedback in my stepwell light, glows
> slightly at night, I suspect a faulty ground somewhere. At this
> point I will tackle that another day.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pete Masterson
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 9:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this
>
>
> You mean your 'well' lights work with the door?
<snip>

[Ryan Wright]

I just have basic on-off "step master" and "step light" switches.
"Step master" keeps the step out; "step light" turns them on (and
leaves them on!). Did the older coaches have the ability to flip the
step lights with the door?? If so, maybe mine is stuck, too.

If not, I'm going to hack this feature in. :-)

-Ryan
'86 PT-40 8V92
Tri-Cities, WA

On 6/10/07, Pete Masterson wrote:
>
> Ok... my well light switch has 3 positions, on-off-on. I guess the
> door switch, presumably hidden behind the fabric covering the hinge,
> is stuck in the on position. Another project for the list...
>

[Pete Masterson]

On my '95, the equivalent to the step master (that holds the step out
if the coach is not running) is located on the main panel and is
labeled 'Aux. Step' with the word 'extended' below the switch to one
side. The system ignores the switch when the ignition switch is on
(the step is withdrawn unless the door is open). The well light
switch is conveniently located on the lower front panel by the steps
where you regularly bump it if you're carrying stuff (such as a
bundle of laundry) on or off the bus...

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA




On Jun 10, 2007, at 7:46 PM, Ryan Wright wrote:

> I just have basic on-off "step master" and "step light" switches.
> "Step master" keeps the step out; "step light" turns them on (and
> leaves them on!). Did the older coaches have the ability to flip the
> step lights with the door?? If so, maybe mine is stuck, too.
>
> If not, I'm going to hack this feature in. :-)
>
> -Ryan
> '86 PT-40 8V92
> Tri-Cities, WA
>
> On 6/10/07, Pete Masterson wrote:
>>
>> Ok... my well light switch has 3 positions, on-off-on. I guess the
>> door switch, presumably hidden behind the fabric covering the hinge,
>> is stuck in the on position. Another project for the list...
>>
>

[Ryan Wright]

Pete,

> On my '95, the equivalent to the step master (that holds the step out
> if the coach is not running) is located on the main panel and is
> labeled 'Aux. Step' with the word 'extended' below the switch to one
> side. The system ignores the switch when the ignition switch is on
> (the step is withdrawn unless the door is open).

Ooh, that is a nice feature - ignoring the switch with the ignition
on. I'm going to rewire mine to do the same. When bringing the coach
home from Dallas, I had truckers on the CB reminding me to put the
step back in - both times I'd left the darn switch on and the blue
bulb that indicates such is so dim it's useless.

So, I have two switches: I have the switch on the dash with the
useless blue bulb and I also have one in the stair well next to the
"well light" switch (that's the one with the "stair master" label). If
either are on, the step stays out. I don't understand the purpose of
needing two, but whatever.

> The well light
> switch is conveniently located on the lower front panel by the steps
> where you regularly bump it if you're carrying stuff (such as a
> bundle of laundry) on or off the bus...

LOL!! So you've had that problem too! :-)

-Ryan
'86 PT-40 8V92
Tri-Cities, WA

[Leroy Eckert]

I don't know about the lights. Mine is like Pete's and can be a headache at
times. I do know the valve is different on earlier models and the earlier models
wiring is simpler.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Wright
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this


I just have basic on-off "step master" and "step light" switches.
"Step master" keeps the step out; "step light" turns them on (and
leaves them on!). Did the older coaches have the ability to flip the
step lights with the door?? If so, maybe mine is stuck, too.

If not, I'm going to hack this feature in. :-)

-Ryan
'86 PT-40 8V92
Tri-Cities, WA

On 6/10/07, Pete Masterson wrote:
>
> Ok... my well light switch has 3 positions, on-off-on. I guess the
> door switch, presumably hidden behind the fabric covering the hinge,
> is stuck in the on position. Another project for the list...
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Leroy Eckert]

I have mine working except for an intermittant light.
I have studied the drawing so long I still don't know what is going on.
Does anyone know what happens electrically when the step is either fully
extended or fully retracted( in the park position for lack of a better phrase)Is
power totally released from the air step solenoids when the park positions are
attained? I cannot see how this could happen. If so, it would be accomplished
somehow by mercury switch position with door switches working properly, but if
the opposite mercury switch was not closed awaiting power I cannot understand
how the step would move in the opposite direction. I noticed while working on
mine that the actuating solenoids(coils they are called on the valve itself) get
faily warm which generated this question. If power is constant the appropriate
actuating coil will stay fairly warm. If this is normal I am good.
In short, is power constantly applied on the coil in its respective park
position at all times until either the aux step switch is moved or the door is
moved thereby sending power through a mercury switch to the opposite end of the
air solenoid to actuate it.
I hope this makes sense to someone.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this


On my '95, the equivalent to the step master (that holds the step out
if the coach is not running) is located on the main panel and is
labeled 'Aux. Step' with the word 'extended' below the switch to one
side. The system ignores the switch when the ignition switch is on
(the step is withdrawn unless the door is open). The well light
switch is conveniently located on the lower front panel by the steps
where you regularly bump it if you're carrying stuff (such as a
bundle of laundry) on or off the bus...

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA

On Jun 10, 2007, at 7:46 PM, Ryan Wright wrote:

> I just have basic on-off "step master" and "step light" switches.
> "Step master" keeps the step out; "step light" turns them on (and
> leaves them on!). Did the older coaches have the ability to flip the
> step lights with the door?? If so, maybe mine is stuck, too.
>
> If not, I'm going to hack this feature in. :-)
>
> -Ryan
> '86 PT-40 8V92
> Tri-Cities, WA
>
> On 6/10/07, Pete Masterson wrote:
>>
>> Ok... my well light switch has 3 positions, on-off-on. I guess the
>> door switch, presumably hidden behind the fabric covering the hinge,
>> is stuck in the on position. Another project for the list...
>>
>





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[Wilhelmus Schreurs]

Leroy:
In my case I do not have mercury switches but switches nevertheless. Neither
when the step is extended or retracted is there power to the actuating solenoid.

Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
Terrace, B.C. Canada




----- Original Message ----
From: Leroy Eckert
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:04:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this

I have mine working except for an intermittant light.
I have studied the drawing so long I still don't know what is going on.
Does anyone know what happens electrically when the step is either fully
extended or fully retracted( in the park position for lack of a better phrase)Is
power totally released from the air step solenoids when the park positions are
attained? I cannot see how this could happen. If so, it would be accomplished
somehow by mercury switch position with door switches working properly, but if
the opposite mercury switch was not closed awaiting power I cannot understand
how the step would move in the opposite direction. I noticed while working on
mine that the actuating solenoids(coils they are called on the valve itself) get
faily warm which generated this question. If power is constant the appropriate
actuating coil will stay fairly warm. If this is normal I am good.
In short, is power constantly applied on the coil in its respective park
position at all times until either the aux step switch is moved or the door is
moved thereby sending power through a mercury switch to the opposite end of the
air solenoid to actuate it.
I hope this makes sense to someone.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this

On my '95, the equivalent to the step master (that holds the step out
if the coach is not running) is located on the main panel and is
labeled 'Aux. Step' with the word 'extended' below the switch to one
side. The system ignores the switch when the ignition switch is on
(the step is withdrawn unless the door is open). The well light
switch is conveniently located on the lower front panel by the steps
where you regularly bump it if you're carrying stuff (such as a
bundle of laundry) on or off the bus...

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@mac. com
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA

On Jun 10, 2007, at 7:46 PM, Ryan Wright wrote:

> I just have basic on-off "step master" and "step light" switches.
> "Step master" keeps the step out; "step light" turns them on (and
> leaves them on!). Did the older coaches have the ability to flip the
> step lights with the door?? If so, maybe mine is stuck, too.
>
> If not, I'm going to hack this feature in. :-)
>
> -Ryan
> '86 PT-40 8V92
> Tri-Cities, WA
>
> On 6/10/07, Pete Masterson wrote:
>>
>> Ok... my well light switch has 3 positions, on-off-on. I guess the
>> door switch, presumably hidden behind the fabric covering the hinge,
>> is stuck in the on position. Another project for the list...
>>
>

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