Sticky bedroom window

[Pete Masterson]

Today I removed the frame around the bedroom window (for reasons that
aren't important to this comment) and I discovered that the
"reluctant" window now opens with no problem. Apparently, the window
frame rubs on the "inside" sliding window so that it won't open.

When I replace the window frame, I'm going to shim it slightly so
that there's a little gap so the window will be able to slide.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
aeonix1@...





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Curt Sprenger]

Pete,
Did you remove the inside or outside window frame?

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Pete Masterson wrote:

> Today I removed the frame around the bedroom window (for reasons that
> aren't important to this comment) and I discovered that the
> "reluctant" window now opens with no problem. Apparently, the window
> frame rubs on the "inside" sliding window so that it won't open.
>
> When I replace the window frame, I'm going to shim it slightly so
> that there's a little gap so the window will be able to slide.
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@...
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

[Pete Masterson]

Inside, wooden frame. (I'm installing a new day/night shade and I
needed to "adjust" the frame size a tad.) The wooden frame was held
to the wall with several screws hidden under little wooden plugs.
Once the frame was removed, then the "inside" window slid back and
forth with ease. The "outside" window already worked ok.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
aeonix1@...



On Jul 5, 2007, at 7:59 PM, Curt Sprenger wrote:

> Pete,
> Did you remove the inside or outside window frame?
>
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
>
>
> Pete Masterson wrote:
>
>> Today I removed the frame around the bedroom window (for reasons that
>> aren't important to this comment) and I discovered that the
>> "reluctant" window now opens with no problem. Apparently, the window
>> frame rubs on the "inside" sliding window so that it won't open.
>>
>> When I replace the window frame, I'm going to shim it slightly so
>> that there's a little gap so the window will be able to slide.
>>
>> Pete Masterson
>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
>> El Sobrante CA
>> aeonix1@...
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Curt Sprenger]

Thanks, Pete.

I was thinking you were fiddling with window coverings. Something on my
to-do-list is the window coverings. I'd like to do away with the
original drapes. Anyone taken on this project?

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Pete Masterson wrote:

> Inside, wooden frame. (I'm installing a new day/night shade and I
> needed to "adjust" the frame size a tad.) The wooden frame was held
> to the wall with several screws hidden under little wooden plugs.
> Once the frame was removed, then the "inside" window slid back and
> forth with ease. The "outside" window already worked ok.
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@...
>
> On Jul 5, 2007, at 7:59 PM, Curt Sprenger wrote:
>
> > Pete,
> > Did you remove the inside or outside window frame?
> >
> > Curt Sprenger
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> >
> >
> >
> > Pete Masterson wrote:
> >
> >> Today I removed the frame around the bedroom window (for reasons that
> >> aren't important to this comment) and I discovered that the
> >> "reluctant" window now opens with no problem. Apparently, the window
> >> frame rubs on the "inside" sliding window so that it won't open.
> >>
> >> When I replace the window frame, I'm going to shim it slightly so
> >> that there's a little gap so the window will be able to slide.
> >>
> >> Pete Masterson
> >> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> >> El Sobrante CA
> >> aeonix1@...
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

[brad barton]

Curt,
On our older coach, we simply took out the set screws that held the drape tabs
in..and slid everything off the tracks. If you like day/nights, they're easy
enough to put in..but we just used the original roll shades. The lack of
pleated drapes modernized the look of the coach immediately. And if you have
the overhead valance cabinets up front, taking your drapes out might make your
coach feel more spacious up front. On our LXi, I found out the night shades had
hardly been used at all..very sticky..almost to the point of tearing. I'm not
sure what to do other than use them. Any way to clean them without damage?
Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...


To: WanderlodgeForum@...: curtsprenger@...: Thu, 5
Jul 2007 20:39:09 -0700Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Sticky bedroom window




Thanks, Pete.I was thinking you were fiddling with window coverings. Something
on my to-do-list is the window coverings. I'd like to do away with the original
drapes. Anyone taken on this project?Curt Sprenger1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack
Racing"Anaheim Hills, Calif.Pete Masterson wrote:> Inside, wooden frame. (I'm
installing a new day/night shade and I> needed to "adjust" the frame size a
tad.) The wooden frame was held> to the wall with several screws hidden under
little wooden plugs.> Once the frame was removed, then the "inside" window slid
back and> forth with ease. The "outside" window already worked ok.>> Pete
Masterson> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42> El Sobrante CA> aeonix1@...
>> On Jul 5, 2007, at 7:59 PM, Curt Sprenger wrote:>>
> Pete,> > Did you remove the inside or outside window frame?> >> > Curt
Sprenger> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"> > Anaheim Hills, Calif.> >> >> >>
> Pete Masterson wrote:> >> >> Today I removed the frame around the bedroom
window (for reasons that> >> aren't important to this comment) and I discovered
that the> >> "reluctant" window now opens with no problem. Apparently, the
window> >> frame rubs on the "inside" sliding window so that it won't open.> >>>
>> When I replace the window frame, I'm going to shim it slightly so> >> that
there's a little gap so the window will be able to slide.> >>> >> Pete
Masterson> >> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42> >> El Sobrante CA> >>
aeonix1@... > >>> >>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >
Yahoo! Groups Links> >> >> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been
removed]>>


_________________________________________________________________
Local listings, incredible imagery, and driving directions - all in one place!
Find it!
http://maps.live.com/?wip=69&FORM=MGAC01

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mohavewolfpup]

Maybe take it out, and use the old "open a envelope you don't want your
parents to see?" trick? I'm not sure what they exactly look like/how they
come out not being a coach owner sadly, but I'm kinda guessing it looks like
it is rolled up and would rip if you tried to lower it? Pop them out, and
hold over a decent steam source for a while to see if maybe that loosens the
adhesive/soda/whatever and allows it to be spread out and cleaned perhaps?



Dane



_____

From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of brad barton
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 11:06
To: wanderlodgeforum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Sticky bedroom window

On our LXi, I found out the night shades had hardly been used at all..very
sticky..almost to the point of tearing. I'm not sure what to do other than
use them. Any way to clean them without damage? Brad Barton 00LXiDFW
bbartonwx@hotmail. com



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Pete Masterson]

Well, that's what we're doing.

The coach had _hideous_ material in the bedroom and merely a poor
color choice up front. There were 3 things to change. The "base"
colors in the coach -- browns and tans are OK. The gaudy print fabric
used as the third "color value" was rather jarring to our nerves.

1. the thing above the window that hides the lights and the AC vents.
You must look carefully and find the screws/fittings that hold it on
the wall. Then the 2 levels of 'padded boards' can be removed by
loosening the screws that hold them on from the back side. We
recovered the largest board with a neutral-colored upholstery fabric
and discarded the smaller board. This reduces the 3-tone arrangement
to a 2-tone arrangement.

2. The valance (that covers the top of the shade) had two strips of
this same ugly fabric. We recovered it in a handwoven, neutral
colored fabric that my wife had used for our home drapes. We choose
this fabric because it had a little more character than the neutral
upholstery fabric -- but we'd run out of it any way. (We bought the
fabric to redo the 'forward salon' area and hadn't really gotten
enough for the bedroom.)

3. The original window shade is a "day -night" shade that features a
pleated, translucent material behind a "roman shade" made with the
ugly OEM fabric. It's a tricky design, that works with two pull-
cords. One raises the roman shade and the other raises the pleated
shade. The shades are hooked together, so they operate in a combined
system. Upon inspection, there was no way that we could practically
disassemble this shade, so we ordered a "day/night" shade from
Tweedys. The shade we received is a bit different in design than the
original. It has two sections, a translucent pleated shade and a
solid pleated shade. They use an anchored string and you either pull
one section or both sections down depending on what amount of light
you want to let in. Personally, I prefer the design of the OEM shade,
but this one appears to be a serviceable design. I've seen similar
shades in use in some other RVs. We selected neutral/beige colors
that will blend with our other color choices.

When we're further along on the project, I'll take some photos and
make them available to the list.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
aeonix1@...



On Jul 5, 2007, at 8:39 PM, Curt Sprenger wrote:

> Thanks, Pete.
>
> I was thinking you were fiddling with window coverings. Something
> on my
> to-do-list is the window coverings. I'd like to do away with the
> original drapes. Anyone taken on this project?



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Leroy Eckert]

Pete, I have looked at many high dollar coaches. I agree that some of the color
selections are, well, hideous. But think, some high dollar designer was paid big
money to put your combination together.
I work with designers every day. I was going to say more than "I wonder" about
interior design but won't.
I just finished a 35sq ft pool bath floor, 2x2 aluminum tiles made from
reclaimed beer cans in polished, brushed and sandblasted surface finish. All set
one piece at a time. It's gonna turn white and black and become very ugly. I
might add, very expensive.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Sticky bedroom window


Well, that's what we're doing.

The coach had _hideous_ material in the bedroom and merely a poor
color choice up front. There were 3 things to change. The "base"
colors in the coach -- browns and tans are OK. The gaudy print fabric
used as the third "color value" was rather jarring to our nerves.

1. the thing above the window that hides the lights and the AC vents.
You must look carefully and find the screws/fittings that hold it on
the wall. Then the 2 levels of 'padded boards' can be removed by
loosening the screws that hold them on from the back side. We
recovered the largest board with a neutral-colored upholstery fabric
and discarded the smaller board. This reduces the 3-tone arrangement
to a 2-tone arrangement.

2. The valance (that covers the top of the shade) had two strips of
this same ugly fabric. We recovered it in a handwoven, neutral
colored fabric that my wife had used for our home drapes. We choose
this fabric because it had a little more character than the neutral
upholstery fabric -- but we'd run out of it any way. (We bought the
fabric to redo the 'forward salon' area and hadn't really gotten
enough for the bedroom.)

3. The original window shade is a "day -night" shade that features a
pleated, translucent material behind a "roman shade" made with the
ugly OEM fabric. It's a tricky design, that works with two pull-
cords. One raises the roman shade and the other raises the pleated
shade. The shades are hooked together, so they operate in a combined
system. Upon inspection, there was no way that we could practically
disassemble this shade, so we ordered a "day/night" shade from
Tweedys. The shade we received is a bit different in design than the
original. It has two sections, a translucent pleated shade and a
solid pleated shade. They use an anchored string and you either pull
one section or both sections down depending on what amount of light
you want to let in. Personally, I prefer the design of the OEM shade,
but this one appears to be a serviceable design. I've seen similar
shades in use in some other RVs. We selected neutral/beige colors
that will blend with our other color choices.

When we're further along on the project, I'll take some photos and
make them available to the list.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
aeonix1@...

On Jul 5, 2007, at 8:39 PM, Curt Sprenger wrote:

> Thanks, Pete.
>
> I was thinking you were fiddling with window coverings. Something
> on my
> to-do-list is the window coverings. I'd like to do away with the
> original drapes. Anyone taken on this project?

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Pete Masterson]

Although I'm not an "interior designer" as a professional book
designer/graphic artist, I do have a sense of color and style -- in
addition, my spouse has a Bachelor's of Fine Art with emphasis in
weaving (and spent 30 years weaving fabrics and wall hangings) -- so
fabric arts are well within her scope. Still, I can't believe some of
the choices I've seen in high-end coaches. And, to think, the ones
I've seen tend to be those selected as "display" models to show off
the company's work.

I commented on the poor color choice in the forward salon -- but I
had forgotten that somebody had re-covered the sofa and other
decorative fabrics to "get rid of" the pattern that was used in the
bedroom. Apparently, in the OEM version, the fabric had been used
throughout the coach.

Now, some of the items, such as the "sculptured" carpet might be
considered simply a matter of difference of opinion in style/color
choice. But, I have to say, the fabric used in the OEM version of my
coach makes you simply wonder, what where they thinking?

For those who are consumed with curiosity, the coach, as it appeared
at Mr. Olivers before I bought it can be seen at
<http://homepage.mac.com/aeonix1/Bluebird...bum10.html>

The original bedroom window covering can be seen in photo
"95lxi4281", which is the 5th before the end of the thumbnails.
Double click the image to see a full size view. The last photo in the
series shows the 'forward salon' with the facing sofas. The 'blue-
green' sofa color was probably selected based on the similar color in
the carpet. Originally, this sofa, and the trim above the windows,
(apparently) used the same fabric as the window shade in the bedroom.
(The sofa had been completely recovered, but when we replaced the
fabric above the windows, I could see the OEM fabric had been covered
by the blue-green fabric.)

Note: We have removed the two sofas. On the street side, are two
metal filing cabinets and on the curb side I've ordered a custom desk
now being manufactured by Davis Cabinets in Junction City Oregon. The
desk will be installed in September.

Meanwhile, I'm removing the carpet (it's old, worn, and stained) and
we've decided to replace it with bamboo flooring. (The bamboo is
quite durable and is similar to a hardwood.) I'll be using an
"engineered wood" product that is easy to install.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
aeonix1@...



On Jul 6, 2007, at 3:57 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> Pete, I have looked at many high dollar coaches. I agree that some
> of the color selections are, well, hideous. But think, some high
> dollar designer was paid big money to put your combination together.
> I work with designers every day. I was going to say more than "I
> wonder" about interior design but won't.
> I just finished a 35sq ft pool bath floor, 2x2 aluminum tiles made
> from reclaimed beer cans in polished, brushed and sandblasted
> surface finish. All set one piece at a time. It's gonna turn white
> and black and become very ugly. I might add, very expensive.
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Leroy Eckert]

Very nice looking coach Pete. White makes it look larger than it actually is. I
can see why you would off the bedroom window treatment. It might keep you awake
at night.
Just wondering, with metal cabinets on the road side and a desk on the other
where are you folks going to sit?
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Sticky bedroom window


Although I'm not an "interior designer" as a professional book
designer/graphic artist, I do have a sense of color and style -- in
addition, my spouse has a Bachelor's of Fine Art with emphasis in
weaving (and spent 30 years weaving fabrics and wall hangings) -- so
fabric arts are well within her scope. Still, I can't believe some of
the choices I've seen in high-end coaches. And, to think, the ones
I've seen tend to be those selected as "display" models to show off
the company's work.

I commented on the poor color choice in the forward salon -- but I
had forgotten that somebody had re-covered the sofa and other
decorative fabrics to "get rid of" the pattern that was used in the
bedroom. Apparently, in the OEM version, the fabric had been used
throughout the coach.

Now, some of the items, such as the "sculptured" carpet might be
considered simply a matter of difference of opinion in style/color
choice. But, I have to say, the fabric used in the OEM version of my
coach makes you simply wonder, what where they thinking?

For those who are consumed with curiosity, the coach, as it appeared
at Mr. Olivers before I bought it can be seen at
<http://homepage.mac.com/aeonix1/Bluebird...bum10.html>

The original bedroom window covering can be seen in photo
"95lxi4281", which is the 5th before the end of the thumbnails.
Double click the image to see a full size view. The last photo in the
series shows the 'forward salon' with the facing sofas. The 'blue-
green' sofa color was probably selected based on the similar color in
the carpet. Originally, this sofa, and the trim above the windows,
(apparently) used the same fabric as the window shade in the bedroom.
(The sofa had been completely recovered, but when we replaced the
fabric above the windows, I could see the OEM fabric had been covered
by the blue-green fabric.)

Note: We have removed the two sofas. On the street side, are two
metal filing cabinets and on the curb side I've ordered a custom desk
now being manufactured by Davis Cabinets in Junction City Oregon. The
desk will be installed in September.

Meanwhile, I'm removing the carpet (it's old, worn, and stained) and
we've decided to replace it with bamboo flooring. (The bamboo is
quite durable and is similar to a hardwood.) I'll be using an
"engineered wood" product that is easy to install.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
aeonix1@...

On Jul 6, 2007, at 3:57 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> Pete, I have looked at many high dollar coaches. I agree that some
> of the color selections are, well, hideous. But think, some high
> dollar designer was paid big money to put your combination together.
> I work with designers every day. I was going to say more than "I
> wonder" about interior design but won't.
> I just finished a 35sq ft pool bath floor, 2x2 aluminum tiles made
> from reclaimed beer cans in polished, brushed and sandblasted
> surface finish. All set one piece at a time. It's gonna turn white
> and black and become very ugly. I might add, very expensive.
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]