Ohio & PA Turnpikes

[ronmarabito2002]

I continue to carry air in the tag, but the drive is 775 lbs. over the
21000 lb. limit. I do not have the capacity to air the tag further
just to go through the gate. It won't make any difference on this
trip because I only was going to be on the Ohio TP a short distance.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
wrote:
>
> Yes, I am saying that the drive axle on a PT is not considered a
single axle, but rather a short tandem group.
>
> Ohio's rules, which are similar everywhere:
> SINGLE axle. Every adjacent axle to this axle is greater than 16
feet (center to center)
> SHORT TANDEM group. Two adjacent axles are within 4 feet (<= 4 ft)
of each other.
>
> There are also other types of tandems, but that is all that concerns
us. Our PT rear does not meet the definition of single, but does meet
the definition of short tandem.
>
> One apparent gotcha: Equalization Within Group (Tandem / Tri / Quad
groups). Within each group, the weight on each axle must not differ
by more than 2000 pounds.
>
> However, an exception nullifies the gotcha:
> Auxiliary axles, airlift axles and air ride suspensions.
> For the determination of legal axle, axle group and gross weights:
> There is no requirement regarding load equalization or suspension
type so long as it is a load bearing axle and does not exceed the tire
or axle load limit.
>
> In other words, the tag does not have to be within 2000 lbs of the
drivers
>
> It should, however, be carrying weight, which was the problem that
Dan Carr mentions when he forgot to air up his tag.
>
> On 5/27/2008 at 8:59 PM ronmarabito2002 wrote:
>
> >O.K. Don. Let's get our definitions working together. I thought a
> >single axle was just that. Are you saying the drive axle is not
> >considered a single axle? My drive currently runs about 21775 lbs..
> >
> >Ron
> >
> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> For a PT there is only one single axle, and that's the front one. I
> >have never heard of a Bird exceeding 20K on that axle?
> >>
> >> Anyway, the Ohio turnpike rules for a single axle are actually 21K,
> >and the limit for a tandem as you would find on a PT rear is 34K.
> >>
> >> Rates are weight/miles based, and can be calculated here:
> >http://www.ohioturnpike.org/travelers/fa...alculator/
> >>
> >> The turnpike is also the only road in Ohio where all vehicles can
> >travel 65MPH. Otherwise, Ohio is like California, with a Truck/towing
> >rule of 55.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/27/2008 at 2:26 AM ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> >>
> >> >The point Bob was making is: Maximum single axle load is 20,000
lbs.
> >> > You will probably find that when loaded, you could be up around
> >> >22,000 lbs.. If you could run on an almost empty tank of fuel or
> >> >empty holding and water tanks, you might make it, but they will
weigh
> >> >you at the gates of the Ohio Turnpike, as I have been told.
> >> >
> >> >R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >> >
> >> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "joepat50"
wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Bob,
> >> >>
> >> >> Kind of curious what you mean by that. I havent driven a
coach cross
> >> >> country before but plan to in July, (CA to OH and back) we'll
> >take the
> >> >> OH turnpike part of the way so Im interested in this.
> >> >>
> >> >> Will they require the coach to get weighted before getting on
the TP
> >> >> or is there any other way they check for over weight axles or
total
> >> >> weight?
> >> >>
> >> >> Is there a special rate for motorhomes or are we charged the same
> >rate
> >> >> as trucks?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks, Joe
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

[Gregory OConnor]

Now you know why commercial motor cops carry a gun.
GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
wrote:
>
> Yes, I am saying that the drive axle on a PT is not considered a
single axle, but rather a short tandem group.
>
> Ohio's rules, which are similar everywhere:
> SINGLE axle. Every adjacent axle to this axle is greater than 16
feet (center to center)
> SHORT TANDEM group. Two adjacent axles are within 4 feet (<= 4
ft) of each other.
>
> There are also other types of tandems, but that is all that
concerns us. Our PT rear does not meet the definition of single, but
does meet the definition of short tandem.
>
> One apparent gotcha: Equalization Within Group (Tandem / Tri /
Quad groups). Within each group, the weight on each axle must not
differ by more than 2000 pounds.
>
> However, an exception nullifies the gotcha:
> Auxiliary axles, airlift axles and air ride suspensions.
> For the determination of legal axle, axle group and gross weights:
> There is no requirement regarding load equalization or suspension
type so long as it is a load bearing axle and does not exceed the
tire or axle load limit.
>
> In other words, the tag does not have to be within 2000 lbs of the
drivers
>
> It should, however, be carrying weight, which was the problem that
Dan Carr mentions when he forgot to air up his tag.
>
> On 5/27/2008 at 8:59 PM ronmarabito2002 wrote:
>
> >O.K. Don. Let's get our definitions working together. I thought
a
> >single axle was just that. Are you saying the drive axle is not
> >considered a single axle? My drive currently runs about 21775
lbs..
> >
> >Ron
> >
> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> For a PT there is only one single axle, and that's the front
one. I
> >have never heard of a Bird exceeding 20K on that axle?
> >>
> >> Anyway, the Ohio turnpike rules for a single axle are actually
21K,
> >and the limit for a tandem as you would find on a PT rear is 34K.
> >>
> >> Rates are weight/miles based, and can be calculated here:
> >http://www.ohioturnpike.org/travelers/fa...alculator/
> >>
> >> The turnpike is also the only road in Ohio where all vehicles
can
> >travel 65MPH. Otherwise, Ohio is like California, with a
Truck/towing
> >rule of 55.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/27/2008 at 2:26 AM ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> >>
> >> >The point Bob was making is: Maximum single axle load is
20,000 lbs.
> >> > You will probably find that when loaded, you could be up
around
> >> >22,000 lbs.. If you could run on an almost empty tank of
fuel or
> >> >empty holding and water tanks, you might make it, but they
will weigh
> >> >you at the gates of the Ohio Turnpike, as I have been told.
> >> >
> >> >R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >> >
> >> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "joepat50"
wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Bob,
> >> >>
> >> >> Kind of curious what you mean by that. I havent driven a
coach cross
> >> >> country before but plan to in July, (CA to OH and back) we'll
> >take the
> >> >> OH turnpike part of the way so Im interested in this.
> >> >>
> >> >> Will they require the coach to get weighted before getting
on the TP
> >> >> or is there any other way they check for over weight axles
or total
> >> >> weight?
> >> >>
> >> >> Is there a special rate for motorhomes or are we charged the
same
> >rate
> >> >> as trucks?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks, Joe
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>