Door repairs

[David Brady]

Let us know what you find out Pete. I assume that the plastic channel
was

installed by Peninsula. It's possible that it was added later by
BlueBird. Sure

does work. To cinch the screen I use a pen, or similarly skinny object,
and

shift the plastic channel towards the rear of the bus. The channel then
rides

up on the curvature of the window, at the corner, and forces the screen

upward "clamping" it into the window. My windows are silent. No high

pitch tones either. The trouble with this fix, as with any rattle fix,
is that

we've just peeled the onion; i.e, those rattling screens cover up a lot
of

other noises that you didn't know existed.



David Brady





Pete Masterson wrote:

That sounds like exactly what I need. There's a lot of rattling
going on with a couple of the windows. But I also get wind noise
(high-pitched whistle). Due to the age of my windows, the sealing
simply seems to be worn down. It hadn't occurred to me before, but I'll
contact Peninsula Glass and see if they have any ideas on how to
renew the weather stripping.

Pete Masterson

'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42

El Sobrante CA

"aeonix1@mac.com"

On Jun 13, 2008, at 9:42 AM, David Brady wrote:

What makes noise on my side windows are the
screens - they rattle

over bumps. I found that Penisula Glass put a plastic channel at the

base of my screens that slides in another extruded channel in the

window frame. The plastic piece is a few inches shorter than the window

frame. It's purpose is to cinch the screen into the extruded window

frame to prevent rattling. It works. If you don't have such an item,

you can probably get it from Peninsula. It's a simple matter to pop

out the screen, seat the plastic channel, and re-insert the screen.



David Brady,

'02 LXi, NC



Pete Masterson wrote:

I actually only replaced the outside edge, top and bottom but
not the hinge-edge of the weather stripping. The hinge edge was more
bother, so I put it off. I then noticed that the wind noise I was
getting had gone away.

I also got rid of some wind noises in the door window by
installing some weather stripping there, too. I used a kind of 'fur'
stuff -- stiff fibers about 1/16" long that stick up from a 3/16"
sticky tape.

I have a bit of similar wind noise from the driver's side
window as well. Installing a bunch more of the fur-stuff is on my to do
list. 

These kinds of things are endless -- I have several of the
other windows that need troubleshooting for rattles and wind noise as
well. Difficulty there is that it helps to be able to sit/stand near
the window and experiment to find exactly where the noise/air leak is
coming from. I can't do that while I'm driving. Wife won't drive the
bus. So I need to wait for a day when there's gale force winds blowing
so I can fiddle with the windows while parked... (We don't get many of
those days around here.)

Pete Masterson

'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42

El Sobrante CA

"aeonix1@mac.com"

On Jun 13, 2008, at 6:46 AM, Gregory OConnor wrote:

The most annoying noise resulting from wind at the entry
door comes 

from atop the passanger seat. 1- opening up the airvent
pressurizes 

the cab enough to keep air from entering.(close rear
windows also) 2-

Saying "What,,, What,,,, What,,," is effective in
reduction of seat 

noise.  I
don't get the 'skin the cat anology' but these are two of 

those other ways.

Less weather strip is needed at the hinge side.  too much will lift 

the hinge and soon distort.  hollow strips seem to seal
better with 

less pressure but when you distort the mechanics, you end
up needing 

newspaper sticking out the jam. 

GregoryO'Connor

94ptRomolandCa

 --- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com",
David Brady "dmb993@..." 

wrote:

Yes, that piano hinge doesn't help. It was okay on a
school bus

(with 2 doors meeting in the center), but it's not quite
good 

enough

on a single door motorhome. What we need is a true
automotive

style door hinge, which pulls the door out away from the
vehicle

rather than a piano hinge which severely pinches the
weather 

stripping

adjacent to the hinge. Alas, we're probably stuck with
it.

David

'02 LXi, NC

Pete Masterson wrote:

I've examined the door geometry very closely. It
doesn't seem 

like 

there's any real solution -- it appears to be a
"feature" (as in 

"that's not a bug, it's an undocumented feature")...
When my 

weather 

stripping was failing, the door was easier to close,
but then 

there 

were some air leaks and wind noise. Once I renewed the
weather 

strip 

(with a profile that was quite similar to the
original) then the 

door 

was a bit harder to close, but the air leaks and wind
noise was 

gone. 

I've adjusted to it and have become accustomed to
using a firm 

hand 

when closing the door. It's not really an excessive
amount of 

force, 

but it is rather more than is required for most
vehicles. I 

chalk it 

up to being a Blue Bird quirk.

Pete Masterson

'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42

El Sobrante CA

aeonix1@... <"aeonix1"@...>

On Jun 12, 2008, at 6:48 PM, brad barton wrote:

Pete, 

That is exactly what happens on mine.  Very frustrating.  Also 

no 

real way that anyone knows of to adjust it.

Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@... <"bbartonwx"@...>

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    Date:
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    Subject:
Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Door repairs

    I'll
note that the door on my coach must be shut with 

authority

    (like
you mean it) or the automotive-type lock won't latch

    properly.
This was the situation with the original weather

    stripping
and with the weather stripping I installed. Once 

the

    automotive
latch is properly activated, then the dead bolt 

lines

    up
properly. 

    If
you try to open the door with the dead bolt locked, then 

when

    the
automotive latch releases, the pressure on the dead 

bolt is

    sufficient
that the solenoid won't move it. Depending on 

which

    side
of the door you're on, you either have to pull or push 

on

    the
door to relieve the pressure on the dead bolt, then the

    solenoid
will through the bolt.

    Pete
Masterson

    '95
Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42

    El
Sobrante CA

    aeonix1@...
<"aeonix1"@...>

    On
Jun 11, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Gregory OConnor wrote:

        Ryan,
when I use the keyless on my '94 I have to push 

on the

        door
to 

        line
up the deadbolt. This is all done blind folded as 

I cant

        see
or 

        feel
what is going on in the jamb.  I
think someone 

replaced the 

        seal
with a too ambitious foam/rubber  product.
fat 

seals endup 

        causing
the door operator to slam and place a hard turn 

on the 

        lock.  One other issue is that the
door on my 94 is 

alumnium and 

        swells
more than the steel frame in the sun. just some 

things to 

        consider
with your project

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