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1992 sp?
06-27-2008, 01:37
Post: #1
1992 sp?
I dont think there are many 92's. seller wants too much but
interesting just the same.

http://www.rvtraderonline.com/find/listi...6-93162120

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa
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06-27-2008, 02:30
Post: #2
1992 sp?
I like that one as well. Different then anything I've seen. Out of my
reach however.
John Heckman
central Pa
1973 FC
>
> I dont think there are many 92's. seller wants too much but
> interesting just the same.
>
> http://www.rvtraderonline.com/find/listi...6-93162120
>
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa
>
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06-27-2008, 10:01
Post: #3
1992 sp?
*cough*, *choke*, $82,900?!! For an SP?! Holy cow.

-Ryan

On 6/27/08, bubblerboy64 wrote:
>
> I like that one as well. Different then anything I've seen. Out of my
> reach however.
> John Heckman
> central Pa
> 1973 FC
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06-27-2008, 10:32
Post: #4
1992 sp?
I continue to wonder why we BB owners keep shooting our feet off about price. It's your asset. Yes the market is not good. But---unless you like to get greasy, roll under the bus every day, and rework the wheel; buy a beater. And when you get finished add up you time and material and see where you stand. I purchased my coach over 4 years ago and except for general upkeep, I have not spent s@#$ on my bus. I guess that is why I don't ask for help. I paid a fair price at the time. Buy quality, not trash.
I bet you could ask Hank in LV whom has an SP for sale for $75,000 how a good one does. I read a post recently where he is not concerned with hauling it to MT soon. After all, he has been playing poker in Australia for a year. He will crank it up and roll. How many others can say and do that on this forum.
By reading the posts, not many.

Leroy
Eckert
1990 WB-40 Royale
Dahlonega, GA
Smoke N Mirrors
I can leave anytime without worries


--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Ryan Wright wrote:
From: Ryan Wright
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1992 sp?
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 6:01 PM



*cough*, *choke*, $82,900?!! For an SP?! Holy cow.



-Ryan



On 6/27/08, bubblerboy64 <"jehdds%40hotmail.com"> wrote:

>

> I like that one as well. Different then anything I've seen. Out of my

> reach however.

> John Heckman

> central Pa

> 1973 FC

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06-27-2008, 10:44
Post: #5
1992 sp?

This same coach has been advertised in FMCA for about two years. If my memory serves me correctly it started at $120,000. In Februsry 2007 he had it at 105K and in the march 2008 he had reduced it to 98.5 K. I would think the $82.5 K is getting close to reality.
Still dreaming of an SP
Chet Geist
1981 FC33, Austin, Texas
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From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Leroy Eckert
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 5:33 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1992 sp?




I continue to wonder why we BB owners keep shooting our feet off about price. It's your asset. Yes the market is not good. But---unless you like to get greasy, roll under the bus every day, and rework the wheel; buy a beater. And when you get finished add up you time and material and see where you stand. I purchased my coach over 4 years ago and except for general upkeep, I have not spent s@#$ on my bus. I guess that is why I don't ask for help. I paid a fair price at the time. Buy quality, not trash.
I bet you could ask Hank in LV whom has an SP for sale for $75,000 how a good one does. I read a post recently where he is not concerned with hauling it to MT soon. After all, he has been playing poker in Australia for a year. He will crank it up and roll. How many others can say and do that on this forum.
By reading the posts, not many.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Royale
Dahlonega, GA
Smoke N Mirrors
I can leave anytime without worries


--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Ryan Wright gmail.com> wrote:

From: Ryan Wright gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1992 sp?
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 6:01 PM




*cough*, *choke*, $82,900?!! For an SP?! Holy cow.

-Ryan

On 6/27/08, bubblerboy64 <"jehdds%40hotmail.com"> wrote:
>
> I like that one as well. Different then anything I've seen. Out of my
> reach however.
> John Heckman
> central Pa
> 1973 FC

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06-27-2008, 11:57
Post: #6
1992 sp?
Leroy,

Price just seems extreme to me. That's all. I could get an early
nineties PT-40 for the same price. Saw lots of 'em for sale for
~$80-$90k a little over a year ago when I was in the market. I'm not
talking about beaters, either. While you wonder why we question
prices, I wonder why people ask so much for their coach that it never
sells and let it sit on the market for years on end. I mean, it's no
sweat off my back, but it does baffle my mind. :-)

I bought a super clean coach with nothing wrong with it. I still have
to fix things here and there; it's old, things fail, but I'd turn the
key right now and drive cross country without a concern if I had a
reason to.

Maybe I'm wrong and someone will run out and give 'em $80k for it. I
hope they do, but I suspect we'll see it relisted closer to $65k-70k
this fall.

-Ryan
'86 PT-40 8V92

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote:
> I continue to wonder why we BB owners keep shooting our feet off about
> price. It's your asset. Yes the market is not good. But---unless you like to
> get greasy, roll under the bus every day, and rework the wheel; buy a
> beater. And when you get finished add up you time and material and see where
> you stand. I purchased my coach over 4 years ago and except for general
> upkeep, I have not spent s@#$ on my bus. I guess that is why I don't ask for
> help. I paid a fair price at the time. Buy quality, not trash.
> I bet you could ask Hank in LV whom has an SP for sale for $75,000 how a
> good one does. I read a post recently where he is not concerned with hauling
> it to MT soon. After all, he has been playing poker in Australia for a year.
> He will crank it up and roll. How many others can say and do that on this
> forum.
> By reading the posts, not many.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Royale
> Dahlonega, GA
> Smoke N Mirrors
> I can leave anytime without worries
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06-27-2008, 13:02
Post: #7
1992 sp?
It may be overpriced who knows. From reading your posts I gather you are quite a bit younger than I, and I admire someone who selected the RV lifestyle far younger that I did. Although I had a hell of a time flying airplanes all those years, I had to rent a car, a motel and only I know what else. I wonder sometimes if owning a motor coach would have been better. Can't look back now because it was fun at the time and time has passed.
All I am trying to pass along is if someone finds a well maintained coach, pay the money, because you pay now or pay later with these beasts. Minor changes to meet your personal taste is cheap compared to serious mechanical issues.
When I say I have not spent $@#t on my coach in four years I mean it. I have spent some serious money to update it and add personal touches but that means nothing to the Seller; unless I am the
Seller.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Royale
Dahlonega, GA
Smoke N Mirrors

--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Ryan Wright wrote:
From: Ryan Wright
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1992 sp?
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 7:57 PM



Leroy,



Price just seems extreme to me. That's all. I could get an early

nineties PT-40 for the same price. Saw lots of 'em for sale for

~$80-$90k a little over a year ago when I was in the market. I'm not

talking about beaters, either. While you wonder why we question

prices, I wonder why people ask so much for their coach that it never

sells and let it sit on the market for years on end. I mean, it's no

sweat off my back, but it does baffle my mind. :-)



I bought a super clean coach with nothing wrong with it. I still have

to fix things here and there; it's old, things fail, but I'd turn the

key right now and drive cross country without a concern if I had a

reason to.



Maybe I'm wrong and someone will run out and give 'em $80k for it. I

hope they do, but I suspect we'll see it relisted closer to $65k-70k

this fall.



-Ryan

'86 PT-40 8V92



On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Leroy Eckert <"jwasnewski%40yahoo.com"> wrote:

> I continue to wonder why we BB owners keep shooting our feet off about

> price. It's your asset. Yes the market is not good. But---unless you like to

> get greasy, roll under the bus every day, and rework the wheel; buy a

> beater. And when you get finished add up you time and material and see where

> you stand. I purchased my coach over 4 years ago and except for general

> upkeep, I have not spent s@#$ on my bus. I guess that is why I don't ask for

> help. I paid a fair price at the time. Buy quality, not trash.

> I bet you could ask Hank in LV whom has an SP for sale for $75,000 how a

> good one does. I read a post recently where he is not concerned with hauling

> it to MT soon. After all, he has been playing poker in Australia for a year.

> He will crank it up and roll. How many others can say and do that on this

> forum.

> By reading the posts, not many.

>

> Leroy Eckert

> 1990 WB-40 Royale

> Dahlonega, GA

> Smoke N Mirrors

> I can leave anytime without worries

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06-27-2008, 14:26
Post: #8
1992 sp?
I think the same as you Leroy. I have an 89 SP 36' & it has been a great coach for the 5 years we have owned it. Never let us down out on the road. The Cat is a good engine & low maintenance & the ZF tranny has been good to us also.

Don Spithaler
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Leroy Eckert <"jwasnewski@yahoo.com"> wrote:


It may be overpriced who knows. From reading your posts I gather you are quite a bit younger than I, and I admire someone who selected the RV lifestyle far younger that I did. Although I had a hell of a time flying airplanes all those years, I had to rent a car, a motel and only I know what else. I wonder sometimes if owning a motor coach would have been better. Can't look back now because it was fun at the time and time has passed.

All I am trying to pass along is if someone finds a well maintained coach, pay the money, because you pay now or pay later with these beasts. Minor changes to meet your personal taste is cheap compared to serious mechanical issues.

When I say I have not spent $@#t on my coach in four years I mean it. I have spent some serious money to update it and add personal touches but that means nothing to the Seller; unless I am the
Seller.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Royale
Dahlonega, GA
Smoke N Mirrors

--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Ryan Wright <"ryanpwright@gmail.com"> wrote:

From: Ryan Wright <"ryanpwright@gmail.com">
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1992 sp?

To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"
Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 7:57 PM



Leroy,



Price just seems extreme to me. That's all. I could get an early

nineties PT-40 for the same price. Saw lots of 'em for sale for

~$80-$90k a little over a year ago when I was in the market. I'm not

talking about beaters, either. While you wonder why we question

prices, I wonder why people ask so much for their coach that it never

sells and let it sit on the market for years on end. I mean, it's no

sweat off my back, but it does baffle my mind. :-)



I bought a super clean coach with nothing wrong with it. I still have

to fix things here and there; it's old, things fail, but I'd turn the

key right now and drive cross country without a concern if I had a

reason to.



Maybe I'm wrong and someone will run out and give 'em $80k for it. I

hope they do, but I suspect we'll see it relisted closer to $65k-70k

this fall.



-Ryan

'86 PT-40 8V92



On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Leroy Eckert <"jwasnewski%40yahoo.com"> wrote:

> I continue to wonder why we BB owners keep shooting our feet off about

> price. It's your asset. Yes the market is not good. But---unless you like to

> get greasy, roll under the bus every day, and rework the wheel; buy a

> beater. And when you get finished add up you time and material and see where

> you stand. I purchased my coach over 4 years ago and except for general

> upkeep, I have not spent s@#$ on my bus. I guess that is why I don't ask for

> help. I paid a fair price at the time. Buy quality, not trash.

> I bet you could ask Hank in LV whom has an SP for sale for $75,000 how a

> good one does. I read a post recently where he is not concerned with hauling

> it to MT soon. After all, he has been playing poker in Australia for a year.

> He will crank it up and roll. How many others can say and do that on this

> forum.

> By reading the posts, not many.

>

> Leroy Eckert

> 1990 WB-40 Royale

> Dahlonega, GA

> Smoke N Mirrors

> I can leave anytime without worries



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06-27-2008, 14:49
Post: #9
1992 sp?
well maintained 3 year old batteries, and well maintained 4 year old
electronics are worth as much as dead batteries and broken radios.
Service records and oil analisis are worth as much as the post-
advert 'no warrenty expressed or implied' that follow those records
and reports. Some projects are fun to work on. My bus is worth 8
grand more to me than anyone else because sales tax was paid. It
would be great to wear the bus out and sell it for salvage like most
cars I buy.

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Donald Spithaler"
wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Leroy Eckert
wrote:
>
> > It may be overpriced who knows. From reading your posts I
gather you are
> > quite a bit younger than I, and I admire someone who selected the
RV
> > lifestyle far younger that I did. Although I had a hell of a time
flying
> > airplanes all those years, I had to rent a car, a motel and only
I know what
> > else. I wonder sometimes if owning a motor coach would have been
better.
> > Can't look back now because it was fun at the time and time has
passed.
> > All I am trying to pass along is if someone finds a well
maintained coach,
> > pay the money, because you pay now or pay later with these
beasts. Minor
> > changes to meet your personal taste is cheap compared to serious
mechanical
> > issues.
> > When I say I have not spent $@#t on my coach in four years I mean
it. I
> > have spent some serious money to update it and add personal
touches but that
> > means nothing to the Seller; unless I am the Seller.
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 Royale
> > Dahlonega, GA
> > Smoke N Mirrors
> >
> > --- On *Fri, 6/27/08, Ryan Wright * wrote:
> >
> > From: Ryan Wright
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1992 sp?
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 7:57 PM
> >
> >
> > Leroy,
> >
> > Price just seems extreme to me. That's all. I could get an early
> > nineties PT-40 for the same price. Saw lots of 'em for sale for
> > ~$80-$90k a little over a year ago when I was in the market. I'm
not
> > talking about beaters, either. While you wonder why we question
> > prices, I wonder why people ask so much for their coach that it
never
> > sells and let it sit on the market for years on end. I mean, it's
no
> > sweat off my back, but it does baffle my mind. :-)
> >
> > I bought a super clean coach with nothing wrong with it. I still
have
> > to fix things here and there; it's old, things fail, but I'd turn
the
> > key right now and drive cross country without a concern if I had a
> > reason to.
> >
> > Maybe I'm wrong and someone will run out and give 'em $80k for
it. I
> > hope they do, but I suspect we'll see it relisted closer to $65k-
70k
> > this fall.
> >
> > -Ryan
> > '86 PT-40 8V92
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Leroy Eckert com>
> > wrote:
> > > I continue to wonder why we BB owners keep shooting our feet
off about
> > > price. It's your asset. Yes the market is not good. But---
unless you like
> > to
> > > get greasy, roll under the bus every day, and rework the wheel;
buy a
> > > beater. And when you get finished add up you time and material
and see
> > where
> > > you stand. I purchased my coach over 4 years ago and except for
general
> > > upkeep, I have not spent s@#$ on my bus. I guess that is why I
don't ask
> > for
> > > help. I paid a fair price at the time. Buy quality, not trash.
> > > I bet you could ask Hank in LV whom has an SP for sale for
$75,000 how a
> > > good one does. I read a post recently where he is not concerned
with
> > hauling
> > > it to MT soon. After all, he has been playing poker in
Australia for a
> > year.
> > > He will crank it up and roll. How many others can say and do
that on this
> > > forum.
> > > By reading the posts, not many.
> > >
> > > Leroy Eckert
> > > 1990 WB-40 Royale
> > > Dahlonega, GA
> > > Smoke N Mirrors
> > > I can leave anytime without worries
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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06-28-2008, 03:00
Post: #10
1992 sp?
Folks:
Our 1990SP36 is PRICELESS! While we probably could not get $70,000
in todays market, it is worth much, much more. It is our M-380
without any problems. Just looking at the construction of this bird
is enough to convince me that it is a jewell! The insulation, wiring
bundle, plumbing, levelers, cabinetry, chasis, interior,
instrumentation and on and on. I am convinced that the SP made from
1989-1992 is one of the BEST Birds ever built! I feel like our SP is
almost new. In fact when we pull in RV Parks someone always thinks it
is almost new. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to sell it, just
trying to let we BIRD owners know that we have GREAT machines
regardless of the FALLING prices. Hang on to them as you will not
find anything better! And, one more thing.....I agree that one should
pay a little more and buy a bird that is well taken care of and ready
to go instead of buying one that needs a lot of work......speaking
from experience with previous FC purchases, that "needing a little
work" can run into THOUSANDS OF $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
LOL(in poker it means lots of luck.)
Regards,
Hank
90SP36 with 41,000 miles





--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Donald Spithaler"
wrote:
>
> I think the same as you Leroy. I have an 89 SP 36' & it has been a
great
> coach for the 5 years we have owned it. Never let us down out on
the road.
> The Cat is a good engine & low maintenance & the ZF tranny has been
good to
> us also.
> Don Spithaler
> 89 SP 36'
> Butler, PA
>
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Leroy Eckert
wrote:
>
> > It may be overpriced who knows. From reading your posts I
gather you are
> > quite a bit younger than I, and I admire someone who selected the
RV
> > lifestyle far younger that I did. Although I had a hell of a time
flying
> > airplanes all those years, I had to rent a car, a motel and only
I know what
> > else. I wonder sometimes if owning a motor coach would have been
better.
> > Can't look back now because it was fun at the time and time has
passed.
> > All I am trying to pass along is if someone finds a well
maintained coach,
> > pay the money, because you pay now or pay later with these
beasts. Minor
> > changes to meet your personal taste is cheap compared to serious
mechanical
> > issues.
> > When I say I have not spent $@#t on my coach in four years I mean
it. I
> > have spent some serious money to update it and add personal
touches but that
> > means nothing to the Seller; unless I am the Seller.
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 Royale
> > Dahlonega, GA
> > Smoke N Mirrors
> >
> > --- On *Fri, 6/27/08, Ryan Wright * wrote:
> >
> > From: Ryan Wright
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1992 sp?
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 7:57 PM
> >
> >
> > Leroy,
> >
> > Price just seems extreme to me. That's all. I could get an early
> > nineties PT-40 for the same price. Saw lots of 'em for sale for
> > ~$80-$90k a little over a year ago when I was in the market. I'm
not
> > talking about beaters, either. While you wonder why we question
> > prices, I wonder why people ask so much for their coach that it
never
> > sells and let it sit on the market for years on end. I mean, it's
no
> > sweat off my back, but it does baffle my mind. :-)
> >
> > I bought a super clean coach with nothing wrong with it. I still
have
> > to fix things here and there; it's old, things fail, but I'd turn
the
> > key right now and drive cross country without a concern if I had a
> > reason to.
> >
> > Maybe I'm wrong and someone will run out and give 'em $80k for
it. I
> > hope they do, but I suspect we'll see it relisted closer to $65k-
70k
> > this fall.
> >
> > -Ryan
> > '86 PT-40 8V92
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Leroy Eckert com>
> > wrote:
> > > I continue to wonder why we BB owners keep shooting our feet
off about
> > > price. It's your asset. Yes the market is not good. But---
unless you like
> > to
> > > get greasy, roll under the bus every day, and rework the wheel;
buy a
> > > beater. And when you get finished add up you time and material
and see
> > where
> > > you stand. I purchased my coach over 4 years ago and except for
general
> > > upkeep, I have not spent s@#$ on my bus. I guess that is why I
don't ask
> > for
> > > help. I paid a fair price at the time. Buy quality, not trash.
> > > I bet you could ask Hank in LV whom has an SP for sale for
$75,000 how a
> > > good one does. I read a post recently where he is not concerned
with
> > hauling
> > > it to MT soon. After all, he has been playing poker in
Australia for a
> > year.
> > > He will crank it up and roll. How many others can say and do
that on this
> > > forum.
> > > By reading the posts, not many.
> > >
> > > Leroy Eckert
> > > 1990 WB-40 Royale
> > > Dahlonega, GA
> > > Smoke N Mirrors
> > > I can leave anytime without worries
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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