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GFI Faults and interior light replacemts
01-05-2009, 16:46
Post: #20
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts
Bob, did they work before and now brighter and more efficient? can
you see as good under the old style as under the StephenSupplied
Ballast.

Just went out and took a look at my bus lights and I need all of
them on to see as well as my home office with 280w worth of
incandescent only.

then the term Ballast is just a reference we use inplace
of 'thingamajig', I agree it sounds more professional to use
Ballast. With the old style heat makers, mounting metal to metal
may have held the function of heat sink to cool the electronics.
with the cooler StephenStyle it may be that the tape insulate the
metal case from heating the thingamajig.

GregoryO'Connor ofTim&Greg
94ptRomolandCa


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
wrote:
>
> 110 AC ballasts have only one job to do: Place a coil (some
> inductance) across the leads to the tube. This offsets the
> capacative nature of the tube and lets it draw enuf AC power to
light
> up. Modern solid-state ballasts immitate the coil but more
> efficiently.
>
> The 12 volt "ballast" is more than a ballast. Each one is also an
> inverter. 12 volts is first converted to 100+ volts and then fed
to
> the tube while simulating the effect of the coil as with a 110
> ballast.
>
> I replaced about half the ballasts in our 84FC with units supplied
by
> Stephen 5 years ago. The fixtures have worked fine since.
>
> Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
> wrote:
> >
> > Definitely 12 volt ballasts are different from 110 volt ballasts.
> >
> > The issue here, though, is two different types of
> ballasts, "magnetic" vs electronic. I've never looked at my
ballasts,
> but given their age I expect they are magnetic (coil transformers
> involved). That type is about 70% efficient, with the other 30%
being
> generated as heat.
> >
> > Electronic ballasts like Stephen sells are typically around 95%
> efficient, with 5% lost as heat.
> >
> > I converted my retail store from magnetic to electronic a number
of
> years ago - lower heat, lower total power use, and no more
dangerous
> smoking ballasts!
> >
> > On 1/6/2009 at 2:04 AM timvasqz wrote:
> >
> > >Curious why folks use you for balast purchase. is it unique to
a
> > >12v light over the 110v fluorescent light of a typical home
> > >appliance. My assumption is the Wanderlodge fluorescent light
are
> > >12v???? never had an issue or so I think they would not get
> brighter
> > >by replacing one. I did notice that DickH had brighter F lights
at
> > >Q'08. I also wondered if the balast control amperage would a
> > >balast choice be used to balance the juice to control motor
speed
> or
> > >light intensity inplace of a power hog rehostat?
> > >
> > >
> > >Gregory ofTim&Greg
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Birtles"
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> it makes your lights light
> > >> or balances your ship
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "timvasqz"
> > >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Steve, what does a ballast do?
> > >> > GregoryO'Connor ofTim&Greg
> > >> > 94ptCa
> > >> >
> > >> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Birtles"
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > \the ballasts do not run hot
> > >> > > Stephen
> > >> > > dupreeproducts.com
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, GARY MINKER
> > >
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Doublesided tape on a balast could be a fire hazard if
the
> > >balast
> > >> > > runs hot. Tempting as it may be, I would use screws.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- On Mon, 1/5/09, Hugh Turner wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > From: Hugh Turner
> > >> > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: GFI Faults and interior
> > >light
> > >> > replacemts
> > >> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > > > Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 6:10 AM
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups.
> > >com, "jcpryn"
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Hello,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Helping a friend with his BB 84fc35' and out of the
blue
> he
> > >> > started
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > getting immediate ground faults. We shut off all of
the
> > >> > breakers and
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > still getting the fault. plugged the cord in by it's
> self
> > >and
> > >> > no
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > faults, but as soon as it's plugged into the BB the
GFI
> > >trips.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Any ideas?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > thanks
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > John
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > John
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Last year on a trip to MS 110vac worked fine on
genset.
> > >When I
> > >> > got to
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > campground as soon as I plugged into their 50 amp shore
> > >power I
> > >> > got a
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > hot to neutral short did the simple things first. 1.
Had
> > >> > campground
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > check their side 2. went through some of the checks you
> did
> > >3.
> > >> > took
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > out the connection box to check it ok 4. called plant
for
> > >help.
> > >> > When I
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > described the problem Jessie told me they had problems
on
> > >the PT
> > >> > with
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > water and other stuff getting on the contacts The had a
> > >repair
> > >> > the did
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > to correct the problem told me he lets parts know I may
> need
> > >a
> > >> > switch
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > ($800 est). After aboout a 1/2 a day in MS in August I
> > >finally of
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > removing seat, carpeting and all the other stuff on top
or
> > >> > around the
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > access plate was able to get the switch out. Once it
was
> out
> > >the
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > safetline module was the of the problem it had
shorted. I
> > >> > removed it
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > have not had any problems since, just make sure you
have a
> > >way
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > (checklist, bright color cord, remove before flight
> streamer
> > >> > etc) to
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > remind you that you are on shore power before you pull
out
> > >> > taking the
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > park power system with you. The red and yellow light
are
> not
> > >the
> > >> > ones
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I am talking about they get their input from the module
I
> am
> > >> > talking
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > about. I do not know where is located it the FC itthe
one
> > >you
> > >> > rotate
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > to select the input voltage good luck hope this works
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Hugh Turner
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 84 PT 40
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Messages In This Thread
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - jcpryn - 01-03-2009, 16:46
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - timvasqz - 01-03-2009, 17:37
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - Chuck Wheeler - 01-03-2009, 18:10
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - Curt Sprenger - 01-03-2009, 18:16
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - timvasqz - 01-04-2009, 04:45
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - mrkane1952 - 01-04-2009, 05:40
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - John - 01-04-2009, 05:55
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - pattypape - 01-04-2009, 05:56
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - Hugh Turner - 01-04-2009, 23:10
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - GARY MINKER - 01-05-2009, 01:37
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - Stephen Birtles - 01-05-2009, 10:53
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - timvasqz - 01-05-2009, 13:12
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - Stephen Birtles - 01-05-2009, 13:33
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - Ron Thompson - 01-05-2009, 14:04
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - timvasqz - 01-05-2009, 14:04
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - Ron Thompson - 01-05-2009, 14:08
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - timvasqz - 01-05-2009, 14:59
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - Don Bradner - 01-05-2009, 15:05
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - freewill2008 - 01-05-2009, 16:21
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - timvasqz - 01-05-2009 16:46
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - Curt Sprenger - 01-05-2009, 17:44
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - freewill2008 - 01-05-2009, 18:40
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - GARY MINKER - 01-07-2009, 13:15
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - GARY MINKER - 01-07-2009, 13:21
GFI Faults and interior light replacemts - GARY MINKER - 01-07-2009, 13:24



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