Suspension not filling up...??? Tag pressure not going up???

[t3brian]

Hello...All... as always I greatley appreciate any assistance from the
group...

I am getting ready to make the journey to the Q-ralley and I went to
drive our 84 PT-40 for a quick trip and I cannot get the suspension to
fill....

The front & rear pressure reads 75 pounds but the tag pressure is
zero.....

I have filpped both dump switches repeatedly but no change....

any suggestions????

[erniecarpet]

air up your tanks with the suspension fill switches off. Let it blow off and then flip your switches.

Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 in Texas

In a message dated 01/18/09 16:30:45 Central Standard Time, brianp@... writes:

Hello...All... as always I greatley appreciate any assistance from the
group...

I am getting ready to make the journey to the Q-ralley and I went to
drive our 84 PT-40 for a quick trip and I cannot get the suspension to
fill....

The front & rear pressure reads 75 pounds but the tag pressure is
zero.....

I have filpped both dump switches repeatedly but no change....

any suggestions????

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[pattypape]

Dump switch in "UP" position.

Then possiblities are governor, compressor, compressor belt,
But first check for an air leak.

Bill 88 FC Michigan

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "t3brian" wrote:
>
> Hello...All... as always I greatley appreciate any assistance from
the
> group...
>
> I am getting ready to make the journey to the Q-ralley and I went
to
> drive our 84 PT-40 for a quick trip and I cannot get the suspension
to
> fill....
>
> The front & rear pressure reads 75 pounds but the tag pressure is
> zero.....
>
> I have filpped both dump switches repeatedly but no change....
>
> any suggestions????
>

[erniecarpet]

Bill, our air compressor is direct drive. Wish I was going to Q.

Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 in Texas

In a message dated 01/18/09 16:56:35 Central Standard Time, billpatty@... writes:

Dump switch in "UP" position.

Then possiblities are governor, compressor, compressor belt,
But first check for an air leak.

Bill 88 FC Michigan

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "t3brian" wrote:
>
> Hello...All... as always I greatley appreciate any assistance from
the
> group...
>
> I am getting ready to make the journey to the Q-ralley and I went
to
> drive our 84 PT-40 for a quick trip and I cannot get the suspension
to
> fill....
>
> The front & rear pressure reads 75 pounds but the tag pressure is
> zero.....
>
> I have filpped both dump switches repeatedly but no change....
>
> any suggestions????
>

---

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

[pattypape]

Opps, No belt, Just like my pants,
I wish I was the fourth Amigo.........

Bill 88 FC Michigan

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet
wrote:
>
> Bill, our air compressor is direct drive. Wish I was going to Q.
>
> Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 in Texas
>
>
> In a message dated 01/18/09 16:56:35 Central Standard Time,
billpatty@... writes:
> Dump switch in "UP" position.
>
> Then possiblities are governor, compressor, compressor belt,
> But first check for an air leak.
>
> Bill 88 FC Michigan
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "t3brian" wrote:
> >
> > Hello...All... as always I greatley appreciate any assistance
from
> the
> > group...
> >
> > I am getting ready to make the journey to the Q-ralley and I went
> to
> > drive our 84 PT-40 for a quick trip and I cannot get the
suspension
> to
> > fill....
> >
> > The front & rear pressure reads 75 pounds but the tag pressure is
> > zero.....
> >
> > I have filpped both dump switches repeatedly but no change....
> >
> > any suggestions????
> >
>

[Don Bradner]

Keep in mind that the Front/Rear are brakes, not air bags. Those should peak
around 120psi.

In mine, the sequence is that the brakes air first, to about 75-90lbs, then the
air bags, then the auxiliary items, then the brakes fill the rest of the way. If
yours is the same, it sounds like something is leaking badly during the air bag
fill.

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Posting today by satellite from Quartzsite
My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1

On 1/18/2009 at 10:30 PM t3brian wrote:

>Hello...All... as always I greatley appreciate any assistance from the
>group...
>
>I am getting ready to make the journey to the Q-ralley and I went to
>drive our 84 PT-40 for a quick trip and I cannot get the suspension to
>fill....
>
>The front & rear pressure reads 75 pounds but the tag pressure is
>zero.....
>
>I have filpped both dump switches repeatedly but no change....
>
>any suggestions????
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

[t3brian]

Thank You everybody for your suggestions......

A combination of filling the suspension a few times after a short
around the block drive did the trick!!!!!!

However is this a sign of something on its way to a failure???

or... is it simply a sign of older parts that every once in awhile
need a little kick start to get going???

the bird did 'rest' for 6 months since it's last venture....

but she is up and ready to go now...

again thank you all for your suggestions...

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
wrote:
>
> Keep in mind that the Front/Rear are brakes, not air bags. Those
should peak around 120psi.
>
> In mine, the sequence is that the brakes air first, to about 75-
90lbs, then the air bags, then the auxiliary items, then the brakes
fill the rest of the way. If yours is the same, it sounds like
something is leaking badly during the air bag fill.
>
> Don Bradner
> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
> Posting today by satellite from Quartzsite
> My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1
>
> On 1/18/2009 at 10:30 PM t3brian wrote:
>
> >Hello...All... as always I greatley appreciate any assistance from
the
> >group...
> >
> >I am getting ready to make the journey to the Q-ralley and I went
to
> >drive our 84 PT-40 for a quick trip and I cannot get the
suspension to
> >fill....
> >
> >The front & rear pressure reads 75 pounds but the tag pressure is
> >zero.....
> >
> >I have filpped both dump switches repeatedly but no change....
> >
> >any suggestions????
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

[jim riordan]

I had many problems with this. When you flip the tag axle switch do you hear a rush of air?? On my wbwl when you remove the front panell covering the electric in the center od the coach there are three valves (forgot the name) they some times got stuck so the tag would not fill. flip the switch ah tap on there valves. I ended up replacing them and solved the problem

Jim Riordan

88 WBWL XXV

Stuart, Fl

772-260-1328

t3brian wrote:

Hello...All... as always I greatley appreciate any assistance from the
group...

I am getting ready to make the journey to the Q-ralley and I went to
drive our 84 PT-40 for a quick trip and I cannot get the suspension to
fill....

The front & rear pressure reads 75 pounds but the tag pressure is
zero.....

I have filpped both dump switches repeatedly but no change....

any suggestions????

[jim riordan]

I might of misread your post...main pressure guage only 75 pounds? sb 120, possible leak in air system. run bus pressure up shut off buss (carefully listen for leaks.). I had to replace the air dryer, in front of the rear axles in the center of the coach, underneath, this helped with the system spped in filling.

Jim Riordan

t3brian wrote:

Hello...All... as always I greatley appreciate any assistance from the
group...

I am getting ready to make the journey to
the Q-ralley and I went to
drive our 84 PT-40 for a quick trip and I cannot get the suspension to
fill....

The front & rear pressure reads 75 pounds but the tag pressure is
zero.....

I have filpped both dump switches repeatedly but no change....

any suggestions????

[pattypape]

IF your location is in a temperature below 32* freeze area,
moisture, & condensation will cause all kinds of strange issues.
there are numerous check valves , pressure reducing,etc valves, with
diaphragms that do not like freezing temps.

Bill 88 FC michigan


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "t3brian" wrote:
>
> Thank You everybody for your suggestions......
>
> A combination of filling the suspension a few times after a short
> around the block drive did the trick!!!!!!
>
> However is this a sign of something on its way to a failure???
>
> or... is it simply a sign of older parts that every once in awhile
> need a little kick start to get going???
>
> the bird did 'rest' for 6 months since it's last venture....
>
> but she is up and ready to go now...
>
> again thank you all for your suggestions...
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
> wrote:
> >
> > Keep in mind that the Front/Rear are brakes, not air bags. Those
> should peak around 120psi.
> >
> > In mine, the sequence is that the brakes air first, to about 75-
> 90lbs, then the air bags, then the auxiliary items, then the brakes
> fill the rest of the way. If yours is the same, it sounds like
> something is leaking badly during the air bag fill.
> >
> > Don Bradner
> > 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
> > Posting today by satellite from Quartzsite
> > My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1
> >
> > On 1/18/2009 at 10:30 PM t3brian wrote:
> >
> > >Hello...All... as always I greatley appreciate any assistance
from
> the
> > >group...
> > >
> > >I am getting ready to make the journey to the Q-ralley and I
went
> to
> > >drive our 84 PT-40 for a quick trip and I cannot get the
> suspension to
> > >fill....
> > >
> > >The front & rear pressure reads 75 pounds but the tag pressure
is
> > >zero.....
> > >
> > >I have filpped both dump switches repeatedly but no change....
> > >
> > >any suggestions????
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >------------------------------------
> > >
> > >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>