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Blue Bird
02-01-2009, 06:52
Post: #21
Blue Bird
Greg:

I did show up @ Q but you were nowhere to be found. WE visioted with
Fred and some of the other Birders.

Bruce
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02-01-2009, 09:55
Post: #22
Blue Bird
Way to go Greg. You have a habit of driving people away from the
forums.

Dan of Dan



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Macy Neshati
wrote:
>
> Greg, what damage was done is very personal. I won¹t respond on
the forum
> anymore,, if you want to email me one on one, I will always be
happy to talk
> to you.
>
> Macy
> Macy Neshati
> Vice President, Sales & Marketing
> Complete Coach Works & Blue Bird Coachworks
> Office: 951-684-9585 Cell: 951-836-6525 Fax: 951-684-9585
> Visit Our Websites: http://www.completecoach.com
&http://www.bluebirdcoachworks.com
>
>
>
> From: timvasqz > Reply-To:
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:56:42 -0000
> To:
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Blue Bird
>
>
>
>
> Macy, this is a social forum of opinions. Bruce is a good guy, and
> a halfway good chili cook. my opinion. What damage was done when he
> prompted your last post?
> Greg ofTim&Greg
> 94ptca
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> , "mneshati2"
> wrote:
> >
> > Unbelievable, even faced with the tough times and decisions that
> need to be made there
> > are Sunday armchair quarter backs thinking they know it all.
> Bruce, you have NO IDEA what
> > went into our due diligence, and in my opinion NO RIGHT to
> critique us and tell the forum
> > our efforts sucked. You are the worst kind of spectator standing
> on the sidelines and
> > telling the rest of us what is right and wrong and who knew what
> they were doing and
> > didn't.
> >
> > You are dead wrong about the declining sales, and as late as the
> spring of 2007 the
> > University of Michigan, the industry experts on the RV industry
> published an economic
> > forecast the indicated continued strong growth in 2010. I still
> have my copy, part of our
> > due diligence, still got yours? How about Statistical Survey,
> through the end of the first
> > quarter of 2007, the latest data available, class A shipments were
> up. I still have my
> > copies, do you?
> >
> > We are still very pursuing options and doing what we can to get
> through this and I have
> > had all I will take from the Nay Sayers, the doom and gloomers and
> especially the know it
> > all experts like you. You won't be able to goad another response
> from me.
> >
> > Those of you who have been a friend and an ally, you have my email
> address and my cell
> > phone, I will talk to you individually any time, but I am done
> with this forums, and you all
> > have Mr. birdshill Bruce here to thank for it.
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> , "birdshill123"
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have to disagree with Tim. I think they went into this Blind.
> Their
> > > due diligence sucked. Class A sales have been falling since
> 2007. The
> > > plant was robbed and raped of everything that was necessary to
> build
> > > the units. They had to go out and buy equipment. So what exactly
> did
> > > they get?? maybe the chassis that was needed for the Express
> Bus, the
> > > name and some worthless real estate. Apparently the parts have
> been
> > > somewhat depleted. What will happen to the parts that are still
> on the
> > > shelves? What about the cataloging and other information? Mye
> xperience
> > > is that a lot of that gets thrown into dumpsters. Maybe Randy
> could do
> > > some dumpster diving?? Tim: If they had this plannned from the
> > > beggining what was the logic??
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > > Orphaned 1988 FC 35
> > >
> >
>
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02-01-2009, 11:24
Post: #23
Blue Bird
Dan, I think you might want to read the posts in order?

On 2/1/2009 at 9:55 PM drw907 wrote:

>Way to go Greg. You have a habit of driving people away from the
>forums.
>
>Dan of Dan
>
>
>
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Macy Neshati
>wrote:
>>
>> Greg, what damage was done is very personal. I won¹t respond on
>the forum
>> anymore,, if you want to email me one on one, I will always be
>happy to talk
>> to you.
>>
>> Macy
>> Macy Neshati
>> Vice President, Sales & Marketing
>> Complete Coach Works & Blue Bird Coachworks
>> Office: 951-684-9585 Cell: 951-836-6525 Fax: 951-684-9585
>> Visit Our Websites: http://www.completecoach.com
>&http://www.bluebirdcoachworks.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From: timvasqz >> Reply-To:
>> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:56:42 -0000
>> To:
>> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Blue Bird
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Macy, this is a social forum of opinions. Bruce is a good guy, and
>> a halfway good chili cook. my opinion. What damage was done when he
>> prompted your last post?
>> Greg ofTim&Greg
>> 94ptca
>>
>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>> , "mneshati2"
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Unbelievable, even faced with the tough times and decisions that
>> need to be made there
>> > are Sunday armchair quarter backs thinking they know it all.
>> Bruce, you have NO IDEA what
>> > went into our due diligence, and in my opinion NO RIGHT to
>> critique us and tell the forum
>> > our efforts sucked. You are the worst kind of spectator standing
>> on the sidelines and
>> > telling the rest of us what is right and wrong and who knew what
>> they were doing and
>> > didn't.
>> >
>> > You are dead wrong about the declining sales, and as late as the
>> spring of 2007 the
>> > University of Michigan, the industry experts on the RV industry
>> published an economic
>> > forecast the indicated continued strong growth in 2010. I still
>> have my copy, part of our
>> > due diligence, still got yours? How about Statistical Survey,
>> through the end of the first
>> > quarter of 2007, the latest data available, class A shipments were
>> up. I still have my
>> > copies, do you?
>> >
>> > We are still very pursuing options and doing what we can to get
>> through this and I have
>> > had all I will take from the Nay Sayers, the doom and gloomers and
>> especially the know it
>> > all experts like you. You won't be able to goad another response
>> from me.
>> >
>> > Those of you who have been a friend and an ally, you have my email
>> address and my cell
>> > phone, I will talk to you individually any time, but I am done
>> with this forums, and you all
>> > have Mr. birdshill Bruce here to thank for it.
>> >
>> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>> , "birdshill123"
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I have to disagree with Tim. I think they went into this Blind.
>> Their
>> > > due diligence sucked. Class A sales have been falling since
>> 2007. The
>> > > plant was robbed and raped of everything that was necessary to
>> build
>> > > the units. They had to go out and buy equipment. So what exactly
>> did
>> > > they get?? maybe the chassis that was needed for the Express
>> Bus, the
>> > > name and some worthless real estate. Apparently the parts have
>> been
>> > > somewhat depleted. What will happen to the parts that are still
>> on the
>> > > shelves? What about the cataloging and other information? Mye
>> xperience
>> > > is that a lot of that gets thrown into dumpsters. Maybe Randy
>> could do
>> > > some dumpster diving?? Tim: If they had this plannned from the
>> > > beggining what was the logic??
>> > >
>> > > Bruce
>> > >
>> > > Orphaned 1988 FC 35
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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02-01-2009, 19:47
Post: #24
Blue Bird
Hi All
Why the personal attacks . Opinions are fine . Bruce ,Greg and Macy
have opinions . Macy had the choice to let us know about's
Wanderlodge future . No way he had to tell us . The forum is great .
I need the forum . If someone wants to drop out I belive is because
they don't need the Forum anymore .
Mario 1985FC35

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
wrote:
>
> Dan, I think you might want to read the posts in order?
>
> On 2/1/2009 at 9:55 PM drw907 wrote:
>
> >Way to go Greg. You have a habit of driving people away from the
> >forums.
> >
> >Dan of Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Macy Neshati
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> Greg, what damage was done is very personal. I won¹t respond
on
> >the forum
> >> anymore,, if you want to email me one on one, I will always be
> >happy to talk
> >> to you.
> >>
> >> Macy
> >> Macy Neshati
> >> Vice President, Sales & Marketing
> >> Complete Coach Works & Blue Bird Coachworks
> >> Office: 951-684-9585 Cell: 951-836-6525 Fax: 951-684-9585
> >> Visit Our Websites: http://www.completecoach.com
> >&http://www.bluebirdcoachworks.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: timvasqz > >> Reply-To:
> >> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:56:42 -0000
> >> To:
> >> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Blue Bird
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Macy, this is a social forum of opinions. Bruce is a good guy,
and
> >> a halfway good chili cook. my opinion. What damage was done
when he
> >> prompted your last post?
> >> Greg ofTim&Greg
> >> 94ptca
> >>
> >> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >> , "mneshati2"

> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Unbelievable, even faced with the tough times and decisions
that
> >> need to be made there
> >> > are Sunday armchair quarter backs thinking they know it all.
> >> Bruce, you have NO IDEA what
> >> > went into our due diligence, and in my opinion NO RIGHT to
> >> critique us and tell the forum
> >> > our efforts sucked. You are the worst kind of spectator
standing
> >> on the sidelines and
> >> > telling the rest of us what is right and wrong and who knew
what
> >> they were doing and
> >> > didn't.
> >> >
> >> > You are dead wrong about the declining sales, and as late as
the
> >> spring of 2007 the
> >> > University of Michigan, the industry experts on the RV
industry
> >> published an economic
> >> > forecast the indicated continued strong growth in 2010. I
still
> >> have my copy, part of our
> >> > due diligence, still got yours? How about Statistical Survey,
> >> through the end of the first
> >> > quarter of 2007, the latest data available, class A shipments
were
> >> up. I still have my
> >> > copies, do you?
> >> >
> >> > We are still very pursuing options and doing what we can to
get
> >> through this and I have
> >> > had all I will take from the Nay Sayers, the doom and
gloomers and
> >> especially the know it
> >> > all experts like you. You won't be able to goad another
response
> >> from me.
> >> >
> >> > Those of you who have been a friend and an ally, you have my
email
> >> address and my cell
> >> > phone, I will talk to you individually any time, but I am done
> >> with this forums, and you all
> >> > have Mr. birdshill Bruce here to thank for it.
> >> >
> >> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >> , "birdshill123"
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I have to disagree with Tim. I think they went into this
Blind.
> >> Their
> >> > > due diligence sucked. Class A sales have been falling since
> >> 2007. The
> >> > > plant was robbed and raped of everything that was necessary
to
> >> build
> >> > > the units. They had to go out and buy equipment. So what
exactly
> >> did
> >> > > they get?? maybe the chassis that was needed for the Express
> >> Bus, the
> >> > > name and some worthless real estate. Apparently the parts
have
> >> been
> >> > > somewhat depleted. What will happen to the parts that are
still
> >> on the
> >> > > shelves? What about the cataloging and other information?
Mye
> >> xperience
> >> > > is that a lot of that gets thrown into dumpsters. Maybe
Randy
> >> could do
> >> > > some dumpster diving?? Tim: If they had this plannned from
the
> >> > > beggining what was the logic??
> >> > >
> >> > > Bruce
> >> > >
> >> > > Orphaned 1988 FC 35
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
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02-02-2009, 04:23
Post: #25
Blue Bird
Here we go again!!!!!

Macy,

There are experts on many things and then there are people that think
that they are. There are people that think that they can run anothers
business without any experiance. There are people that talk with out
any knowledge as to what they are speaking about. There seem to be
some on the forum whom like to stir the pot because they lead a very
boring life. We have many of these on this forum. I know that it is
hard to even listen to these kind, you are not alone. I thank you for
your helpful inputs on this forum as well as the others. I am sorry
that you folks had to shutdown the Wanderlodge side. I wish you the
best. Don't worry about little peoples comments as it means little.

Jim Riordan
88 WBWL XXV
Stuart, Fl.


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon" wrote:
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jack & Donna Smith"
> wrote:
> >
> > I assume that this means the Fort Valley plant is closed and no
> more
> > coached will be built. Will this affect CCW in Riverside?
> > Can someone expound on this turn of events?
> > Jack Smith
> > 1973FC31
> > SoCal
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "EJA" wrote:
> > >
> > > Per a call I received this evening from Allen Barbee - it was
> > announced by the General Manager at Coachworks at 5:30 today that
> Blue
> > Bird Wanderlodge is officially closed.
> > >
> > > I wanted to share this sad news with you.
> > >
> > > Thanks, Brenda
>
>
> Well all I can say it goes with times. We are heading toward hard
> times and most people just want to sell oft there big toys. But
the
> one thing about our Blue Birds is that they are built tuff and even
> without a parent company I know our old coaches still have alot
miles
> in them as they are probably the best built tanks in the world.
> > >
> >
>
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