Powertech Genset Kubota Engine Oil Pressure Sending Unit Part Number?

[Fred Hulse]

Mike

It may be too late,but I think this is your page for the sender

http://www.westmarine.com/1/1/31939-oil-...eflex.html

Fred & Jeanne Hulse
Morristown Arizona
1997 Wanderlodge WLWB41

[gregoryoconnor]

OEM is the acronym for Original Equipment Manufacturer. The oem of the Coach is
BlueBird ;the genset is Powertec ;the engine is Kubota ;the injector pump is
cessna. Down the line things change and the parts source oem's can cause
multiple changes.
I have Kubota engines of the same model number as my power tec in a skidsteer
tractor where the OEM of the tractor ordered the engine with the ability to
operate on a 1:1 slope in 4 directions. Kubota built the engines to maintain
crankcase lube in that application. The Kubota in my bus PoweTtech spec'ed to
have the ability to run in a soundproof compartment where compartment ambient
temps go to 325 degrees. Both are kubota 4 cylinder 'D whatever' units but very
different in their application specs and final build. IE I cant buy pistons at
Kubota tractor for my skidsteer tractor engine because kubota farm tractors
were not designed to operate on a 1:1 slope so the pistons were of a different
build.

When changes are made to the final application all considerations of the
original engineer (BirdBrains)must be considered. Often a failure in a part
early on is when the engineer did not consider the environment the equipment
would operate under. Everything, even things like soundproof insulation and
genhead changes must consider a re design consideration :heat. few generators
are set up to operate in the original compartment and we see here that even the
Bluebird OEM PVC intake parts fail.

A BBird'r replaced his BB OEM genset with a aftermarket/offshore genset that
would have worked brilliantly on the roof but by design did not consider the
compartment heat and failed to operate properly. I laughed at comments by proud
American BBird'rs that blamed the failure on the equipment origins and
proclaimed that the American made PowerTec was the way to go. "Connie Chung is
American but Kubota?, not shure?" the failure was ;application intent by the re
engineering.

The most resourceful people with respect to equipment involving integration of
multiple vendors and systems are the' service/repair in house mechanics at Mom
&Pop rental yards' and larger construction outfits. The Wanderlodge bus is one
of those pieces of equipments built using vendors appliances like the
powertec-genset. The powertec-genset is built using more individual vendor
parts.

In the past, while on the road with our re-vegetation equipment brake downs
with our unique equipment were costly as many municipal contracts were
prevailing wage and had a liquidated damages clause. In frantic out-of town
search to correct issues with our unique equipment I would often contract for
the services of rental yard mechanics. My introduction was that I wanted to pay
the for the service. Sept 1987 "We worked for a year one month in Guam" and
used a local rental yard when a failure arose. One issue was the ignition coil
on a 2300cc industrial ford gas engine would shut down when it heated up afte 3
min of running. with no parts to be found on the island the tec showed up to the
jobsite with 5 bags of ice. Talk about considering all the factors. 70 something
bags of ice/two weeks later the new coil was delivered and our progress was
hindered little due to the issue.

Greg ofTim&Greg
94ptCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ron Thompson wrote:
>
> Pete,
>
> You are right about the factory being more interested in new sales. Having
been in the service management business for about 35 years, first with the Dept
of the Army, military, then Dept. of the Army Civil Service, then Western Union,
then Texas Instruments, I learned a lot about how to treat a customer and the
guy I contacted at Power Tech could have used a little of that training also.
My feeling is, (albeit a wrong feeling) that he thought I was a cheapskate
trying to get free help. I was simply lookng for help since I was out on the
road in the wilderness of Yukon Territory and northern Alaska.
>
> Anyway, learned my lesson about calling them for help.
>
>
> Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
>
> 1995 WLWB 42'
>
> (cockyfox@...)
>
> --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Pete Masterson wrote:
>
> From: Pete Masterson
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Powertech Genset Kubota Engine Oil
Pressure Sending Unit Part Number?
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 11:26 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ron,
> Might also be the crap shoot of who you spoke with ... I called Power Tech on
a minor issue shortly after getting my coach (roughly 12 years old at the time)
and was treated fairly well and given the information I needed...
> Since many of their generators (on the size and type on our coaches) are used
by fire departments and other emergency service organizations -- and since fire
trucks often are used for 20 years or longer -- it's hard to imagine that they'd
have a 'kiss off' policy for older units. But, perhaps that's the case. You
never know. Obviously, in this current economy, it's entirely possible that
layoffs and retirements have caused rather more stress on the remaining parts
and service staff than a few years ago...
> The service centers that Power Tech recommends appear to be independent
businesses that are approved or franchised by Power Tech -- hopefully, one of
them might prove more service-minded. After all, they have more possibility of
getting revenue from providing service while the factory would be concentrating
on sales.
> Pete Masterson'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 (For Sale)<http://www.aeonix.
biz/BBforsale. html>El Sobrante CAaeonix1@mac. com
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2009, at 7:57 AM, Ron Thompson wrote:
>
>
> Pete,
> I contacted Power Tech about three months ago on my generator problem and got
told that since it was 14 years old, (Even though it had less than 700 hours on
it..) that I needed to find someone to check it out. They didn't even want to
talk to me or recommend what they thought the problem might be.
>
> Doesn't sound like good customer service does it?
>
>
>
> Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> 1995 WLWB 42'
> (cockyfox@sbcglobal. net)
>
> --- On Thu, 9/3/09, Pete Masterson wrote:
>
> From: Pete Masterson
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Powertech Genset Kubota Engine Oil
Pressure Sending Unit Part Number?
> To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 10:16 PM
>
> FWIW, I was trying to get some info on oil filters, etc... and emailed
> Kubota Tractor... I was told "we can't support non-Tractor engines
> you must contact the [generator] manufacturer. " They went on to
> explain that some componen!
> ts on en
> gines that have been installed by
> PowerTech (and other non-Kubota vendors) _may_ have non-standard parts
> as far as Kubota is concerned.
>
> This is the contact information for Power Tech:
> Power Technology Southeast, Inc.
> 634 State Road 44
> Leesburg, Florida 34748
> Phone: (352) 365-2777
> Fax: (352) 787-5545
> Email: Powertech@powertech -gen.com
>
> Toll-Free 800-760-0027
>
> For more information, please contact one of the persons listed below:
>
> Generator Sales - Sales@PowerTech- gen.com
> Parts Sales - jimmys@atlantic. net
> Service Manager - Jeff Jones- JeffJ@atlantic. net
> Purchasing - Rick Harper - Rick@PowerTech- gen.com
> Accounting - Page Scott - Page@PowerTech- gen.com
> Chris O'Keefe - Chris@PowerTech- gen.com
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 (For Sale)
> <http://www.aeonix. biz/BBforsale. html>
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@mac. com
>
> On Sep 3, 2009, at 5:26 PM, mbulriss wrote:
>
> > Ron,
> >
> > The local Kubota tractor parts guy said "What's that?" when I walked
> > in with it in my hand and gave him the V1902-BG engine model code.
> > He followed that with "I've never seen one of those" when I told him
> > what it was. The final was when he asked if it was a tractor part
> > and I told him it was on a Kubota diesel V1902 tractor engine on a
> > genset and could he just cross reference it by engine code, he said
> > "I would have no way of finding that if it's not a tractor part.
> > But there's a Kubota industrial parts place in Houston you could
> > call." I truly thought about saying 'OK, I'll play this game -
> > it's on a 1991 Kubota diesel tractor with a V1902 engine', but I
> > didn't know a tractor model code to make up (which I just knew he
> > was going to have to have to do a look up!), so I decided it was
> > just time to leave at that point. There was no intelligent life in
> > that universe.
> >
> > I'm not going to worry about it since I do have oil pressure, since
> > the shut off sensor is not shutting it down, and the engine runs
> > smooth as silk. It really would be comforting however to have the
> > dash gauge reflect the pressure. I have built a "t" plumbing
> > fitting with both the sending unit and a manual gauge on it for when
> > the tray is open. I am just going to put the defective sending unit
> > back on until I find the part number to hand feed to a "professional
> > parts specialist" somewhere.
> >
> > You got a number on Powertech in Dallas?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > San Antonio, TX - seemingly devoid of parts supplier intelligence
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "ronmarabito2002"
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Call your local Kubota Tractor Dealer and tell him it is V1902 or
> >> VB1902 engine.
> >>
> >> Also, there is a Powertech Dealer in Houston and Dallas.
> >>
> >> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >>
> >> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Any one have a part number for a Powertech Genset Kubota Engine
> >>> Oil Pressure Sending Unit.
> >>>
> >>> I am tired of talking to parts guys that need to know what year
> >>> car it is for, when I have the part in my hand, the engine number,
> >>> etc.! What happened to NAPA guys that knew how to look in the
> >>> parts cross reference manual and match the part?
>

[jwasnewski]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "gregoryoconnor" wrote:

Look in files under Teleflex gauge cross index of something like that. I
compiled it ages ago it seems. The sender is related to the gauge not the
engine. If it is Teleflex you can find the sender at most West Marine Stores or
they can order it for you. Can't remember what N code is at this moment. Anyway
the sender is related to the gauge index.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA
>
> OEM is the acronym for Original Equipment Manufacturer. The oem of the Coach
is BlueBird ;the genset is Powertec ;the engine is Kubota ;the injector pump is
cessna. Down the line things change and the parts source oem's can cause
multiple changes.
> I have Kubota engines of the same model number as my power tec in a skidsteer
tractor where the OEM of the tractor ordered the engine with the ability to
operate on a 1:1 slope in 4 directions. Kubota built the engines to maintain
crankcase lube in that application. The Kubota in my bus PoweTtech spec'ed to
have the ability to run in a soundproof compartment where compartment ambient
temps go to 325 degrees. Both are kubota 4 cylinder 'D whatever' units but very
different in their application specs and final build. IE I cant buy pistons at
Kubota tractor for my skidsteer tractor engine because kubota farm tractors
were not designed to operate on a 1:1 slope so the pistons were of a different
build.
>
> When changes are made to the final application all considerations of the
original engineer (BirdBrains)must be considered. Often a failure in a part
early on is when the engineer did not consider the environment the equipment
would operate under. Everything, even things like soundproof insulation and
genhead changes must consider a re design consideration :heat. few generators
are set up to operate in the original compartment and we see here that even the
Bluebird OEM PVC intake parts fail.
>
> A BBird'r replaced his BB OEM genset with a aftermarket/offshore genset that
would have worked brilliantly on the roof but by design did not consider the
compartment heat and failed to operate properly. I laughed at comments by proud
American BBird'rs that blamed the failure on the equipment origins and
proclaimed that the American made PowerTec was the way to go. "Connie Chung is
American but Kubota?, not shure?" the failure was ;application intent by the re
engineering.
>
> The most resourceful people with respect to equipment involving integration of
multiple vendors and systems are the' service/repair in house mechanics at Mom
&Pop rental yards' and larger construction outfits. The Wanderlodge bus is one
of those pieces of equipments built using vendors appliances like the
powertec-genset. The powertec-genset is built using more individual vendor
parts.
>
> In the past, while on the road with our re-vegetation equipment brake downs
with our unique equipment were costly as many municipal contracts were
prevailing wage and had a liquidated damages clause. In frantic out-of town
search to correct issues with our unique equipment I would often contract for
the services of rental yard mechanics. My introduction was that I wanted to pay
the for the service. Sept 1987 "We worked for a year one month in Guam" and
used a local rental yard when a failure arose. One issue was the ignition coil
on a 2300cc industrial ford gas engine would shut down when it heated up afte 3
min of running. with no parts to be found on the island the tec showed up to the
jobsite with 5 bags of ice. Talk about considering all the factors. 70 something
bags of ice/two weeks later the new coil was delivered and our progress was
hindered little due to the issue.
>
> Greg ofTim&Greg
> 94ptCa
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ron Thompson wrote:
> >
> > Pete,
> >
> > You are right about the factory being more interested in new sales. Having
been in the service management business for about 35 years, first with the Dept
of the Army, military, then Dept. of the Army Civil Service, then Western Union,
then Texas Instruments, I learned a lot about how to treat a customer and the
guy I contacted at Power Tech could have used a little of that training also.
My feeling is, (albeit a wrong feeling) that he thought I was a cheapskate
trying to get free help. I was simply lookng for help since I was out on the
road in the wilderness of Yukon Territory and northern Alaska.
> >
> > Anyway, learned my lesson about calling them for help.
> >
> >
> > Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> >
> > 1995 WLWB 42'
> >
> > (cockyfox@)
> >
> > --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Pete Masterson wrote:
> >
> > From: Pete Masterson
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Powertech Genset Kubota Engine Oil
Pressure Sending Unit Part Number?
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 11:26 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ron,
> > Might also be the crap shoot of who you spoke with ... I called Power Tech
on a minor issue shortly after getting my coach (roughly 12 years old at the
time) and was treated fairly well and given the information I needed...
> > Since many of their generators (on the size and type on our coaches) are
used by fire departments and other emergency service organizations -- and since
fire trucks often are used for 20 years or longer -- it's hard to imagine that
they'd have a 'kiss off' policy for older units. But, perhaps that's the case.
You never know. Obviously, in this current economy, it's entirely possible that
layoffs and retirements have caused rather more stress on the remaining parts
and service staff than a few years ago...
> > The service centers that Power Tech recommends appear to be independent
businesses that are approved or franchised by Power Tech -- hopefully, one of
them might prove more service-minded. After all, they have more possibility of
getting revenue from providing service while the factory would be concentrating
on sales.
> > Pete Masterson'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 (For
Sale)<http://www.aeonix. biz/BBforsale. html>El Sobrante CAaeonix1@mac. com
> >
> >
> > On Sep 4, 2009, at 7:57 AM, Ron Thompson wrote:
> >
> >
> > Pete,
> > I contacted Power Tech about three months ago on my generator problem and
got told that since it was 14 years old, (Even though it had less than 700 hours
on it..) that I needed to find someone to check it out. They didn't even want
to talk to me or recommend what they thought the problem might be.
> >
> > Doesn't sound like good customer service does it?
> >
> >
> >
> > Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> > 1995 WLWB 42'
> > (cockyfox@sbcglobal. net)
> >
> > --- On Thu, 9/3/09, Pete Masterson wrote:
> >
> > From: Pete Masterson
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Powertech Genset Kubota Engine Oil
Pressure Sending Unit Part Number?
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 10:16 PM
> >
> > FWIW, I was trying to get some info on oil filters, etc... and emailed
> > Kubota Tractor... I was told "we can't support non-Tractor engines
> > you must contact the [generator] manufacturer. " They went on to
> > explain that some componen!
> > ts on en
> > gines that have been installed by
> > PowerTech (and other non-Kubota vendors) _may_ have non-standard parts
> > as far as Kubota is concerned.
> >
> > This is the contact information for Power Tech:
> > Power Technology Southeast, Inc.
> > 634 State Road 44
> > Leesburg, Florida 34748
> > Phone: (352) 365-2777
> > Fax: (352) 787-5545
> > Email: Powertech@powertech -gen.com
> >
> > Toll-Free 800-760-0027
> >
> > For more information, please contact one of the persons listed below:
> >
> > Generator Sales - Sales@PowerTech- gen.com
> > Parts Sales - jimmys@atlantic. net
> > Service Manager - Jeff Jones- JeffJ@atlantic. net
> > Purchasing - Rick Harper - Rick@PowerTech- gen.com
> > Accounting - Page Scott - Page@PowerTech- gen.com
> > Chris O'Keefe - Chris@PowerTech- gen.com
> >
> > Pete Masterson
> > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 (For Sale)
> > <http://www.aeonix. biz/BBforsale. html>
> > El Sobrante CA
> > aeonix1@mac. com
> >
> > On Sep 3, 2009, at 5:26 PM, mbulriss wrote:
> >
> > > Ron,
> > >
> > > The local Kubota tractor parts guy said "What's that?" when I walked
> > > in with it in my hand and gave him the V1902-BG engine model code.
> > > He followed that with "I've never seen one of those" when I told him
> > > what it was. The final was when he asked if it was a tractor part
> > > and I told him it was on a Kubota diesel V1902 tractor engine on a
> > > genset and could he just cross reference it by engine code, he said
> > > "I would have no way of finding that if it's not a tractor part.
> > > But there's a Kubota industrial parts place in Houston you could
> > > call." I truly thought about saying 'OK, I'll play this game -
> > > it's on a 1991 Kubota diesel tractor with a V1902 engine', but I
> > > didn't know a tractor model code to make up (which I just knew he
> > > was going to have to have to do a look up!), so I decided it was
> > > just time to leave at that point. There was no intelligent life in
> > > that universe.
> > >
> > > I'm not going to worry about it since I do have oil pressure, since
> > > the shut off sensor is not shutting it down, and the engine runs
> > > smooth as silk. It really would be comforting however to have the
> > > dash gauge reflect the pressure. I have built a "t" plumbing
> > > fitting with both the sending unit and a manual gauge on it for when
> > > the tray is open. I am just going to put the defective sending unit
> > > back on until I find the part number to hand feed to a "professional
> > > parts specialist" somewhere.
> > >
> > > You got a number on Powertech in Dallas?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Mike Bulriss
> > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > San Antonio, TX - seemingly devoid of parts supplier intelligence
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "ronmarabito2002"
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Call your local Kubota Tractor Dealer and tell him it is V1902 or
> > >> VB1902 engine.
> > >>
> > >> Also, there is a Powertech Dealer in Houston and Dallas.
> > >>
> > >> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > >>
> > >> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Any one have a part number for a Powertech Genset Kubota Engine
> > >>> Oil Pressure Sending Unit.
> > >>>
> > >>> I am tired of talking to parts guys that need to know what year
> > >>> car it is for, when I have the part in my hand, the engine number,
> > >>> etc.! What happened to NAPA guys that knew how to look in the
> > >>> parts cross reference manual and match the part?
> >
>