Removing couch

[contrail Bob]

Hi All, We've been gone all summer and just now we're starting to work on our
coach that we purchased this past July. We're thinking that we would like to
take one of the couch's out and put in the recliner and table. We have two, one
is about 80" long and the other is about 68" long. We're thinking that the short
one on the curb side is the best one to take out. We first thought that if we
took the longer one out on the street side that this would be the best but we
found the heater and other things under it that would probably require more work
that taking out the curb side couch. Our question is, will the couch go out the
door as is or do you have to take the end's off? We purchased 10 gallon's of
synthetic oil and plan on doing the oil and filter change on the engine and
generator. We've been in our fifth wheel trailer in wyoming and the coach has
not been out of our garage since July, we're really anxious to get it
going.......Thanks, Bob&Carol 99LX Illinois.......

[rogerwwebb@...]

I removed the ends of the coach (a few bolts) which made the job easier. I did not try removing it with the ends attached.Reduces both weight and length.

Roger Webb

91 WL

Cedar Rapids, IA

In a message dated 9/19/2009 9:47:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rhowald@... writes:

Hi All, We've been gone all summer and just now we're starting to work on our coach that we purchased this past July. We're thinking that we would like to take one of the couch's out and put in the recliner and table. We have two, one is about 80" long and the other is about 68" long. We're thinking that the short one on the curb side is the best one to take out. We first thought that if we took the longer one out on the street side that this would be the best but we found the heater and other things under it that would probably require more work that taking out the curb side couch. Our question is, will the couch go out the door as is or do you have to take the end's off? We purchased 10 gallon's of synthetic oil and plan on doing the oil and filter change on the engine and generator. We've been in our fifth wheel trailer in wyoming and the coach has not been out of our garage since July, we're really anxious to get it going.......Thanks, Bob&Carol 99LX Illinois.......

[Ernie Ekberg]

bob i took tommy mccarthys curbside couch out and had to separate the top from
the bottom ernie

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------Original Message------
From: contrail Bob
To:
Date: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 02:47 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Removing couch

Hi All, We've been gone all summer and just now we're starting to work on our
coach that we purchased this past July. We're thinking that we would like to
take one of the couch's out and put in the recliner and table. We have two, one
is about 80" long and the other is about 68" long. We're thinking that the short
one on the curb side is the best one to take out. We first thought that if we
took the longer one out on the street side that this would be the best but we
found the heater and other things under it that would probably require more work
that taking out the curb side couch. Our question is, will the couch go out the
door as is or do you have to take the end's off? We purchased 10 gallon's of
synthetic oil and plan on doing the oil and filter change on the engine and
generator. We've been in our fifth wheel trailer in wyoming and the coach has
not been out of our garage since July, we're really anxious to get it
going.......Thanks, Bob&Carol 99LX Illinois.......

[contrail Bob]

Thanks, Ernie. When will you be back in Tx? Thinking about maybe having you
put a new rag on the floor on our way to SPI in Dec. Bob 99LX..Illinois




wrote:
>
> bob i took tommy mccarthys curbside couch out and had to separate the top from
the bottom ernie
>
> ----------
> Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: contrail Bob
> To:
> Date: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 02:47 AM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Removing couch
>
> Hi All, We've been gone all summer and just now we're starting to work on our
coach that we purchased this past July. We're thinking that we would like to
take one of the couch's out and put in the recliner and table. We have two, one
is about 80" long and the other is about 68" long. We're thinking that the short
one on the curb side is the best one to take out. We first thought that if we
took the longer one out on the street side that this would be the best but we
found the heater and other things under it that would probably require more work
that taking out the curb side couch. Our question is, will the couch go out the
door as is or do you have to take the end's off? We purchased 10 gallon's of
synthetic oil and plan on doing the oil and filter change on the engine and
generator. We've been in our fifth wheel trailer in wyoming and the coach has
not been out of our garage since July, we're really anxious to get it
going.......Thanks, Bob&Carol 99LX Illinois.......
>

[Ernie Ekberg]

hope Im home next month. business is goodd here in calif. ernie

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------Original Message------
From: contrail Bob
To:
Date: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 02:33 PM
Subject: Re:[WanderlodgeForum] Removing couch

Thanks, Ernie. When will you be back in Tx? Thinking about maybe having you
put a new rag on the floor on our way to SPI in Dec. Bob 99LX..Illinois




wrote:
>
> bob i took tommy mccarthys curbside couch out and had to separate the top from
the bottom ernie
>
> ----------
> Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: contrail Bob
> To:
> Date: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 02:47 AM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Removing couch
>
> Hi All, We've been gone all summer and just now we're starting to work on our
coach that we purchased this past July. We're thinking that we would like to
take one of the couch's out and put in the recliner and table. We have two, one
is about 80" long and the other is about 68" long. We're thinking that the short
one on the curb side is the best one to take out. We first thought that if we
took the longer one out on the street side that this would be the best but we
found the heater and other things under it that would probably require more work
that taking out the curb side couch. Our question is, will the couch go out the
door as is or do you have to take the end's off? We purchased 10 gallon's of
synthetic oil and plan on doing the oil and filter change on the engine and
generator. We've been in our fifth wheel trailer in wyoming and the coach has
not been out of our garage since July, we're really anxious to get it
going.......Thanks, Bob&Carol 99LX Illinois.......
>

[tcandt]

We also found the wire run was unfinished behind the sofa. Ernie is making a
run box and covering with carpet this weekend.

Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
Aguanga, CA
1995 PT 42
"Fires don't scare me. I stay far away from them."



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernie Ekberg" wrote:
>
> bob i took tommy mccarthys curbside couch out and had to separate the top from
the bottom ernie
>
> ----------
> Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: contrail Bob
> To:
> Date: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 02:47 AM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Removing couch
>
> Hi All, We've been gone all summer and just now we're starting to work on our
coach that we purchased this past July. We're thinking that we would like to
take one of the couch's out and put in the recliner and table. We have two, one
is about 80" long and the other is about 68" long. We're thinking that the short
one on the curb side is the best one to take out. We first thought that if we
took the longer one out on the street side that this would be the best but we
found the heater and other things under it that would probably require more work
that taking out the curb side couch. Our question is, will the couch go out the
door as is or do you have to take the end's off? We purchased 10 gallon's of
synthetic oil and plan on doing the oil and filter change on the engine and
generator. We've been in our fifth wheel trailer in wyoming and the coach has
not been out of our garage since July, we're really anxious to get it
going.......Thanks, Bob&Carol 99LX Illinois.......
>

[Pete Masterson]

Depends on the sofa ... when I removed the two sofas from my coach, it took some disassembly to get one out -- but the other fit through the door OK. Because lifting over the seats is required, lighter is better (unless you can get stronger) -- so that's another argument in favor of disassembly. Mostly it's just an effort of getting things aligned correctly. Furniture movers do this sort of thing all the time and often by turning furniture just the right way to thread a part through a door.

When I purchased a new sofa (in preparation of selling my coach) the final assembly was done inside the coach, to reduce the weight to lift through the door (as I was moving it with the help of my wife).

Pete Masterson

'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42

El Sobrante CA

"aeonix1@mac.com"

From: contrail Bob

Hi All, We've been gone all summer and just now we're starting to work on our coach that we purchased this past July. We're thinking that we would like to take one of the couch's out and put in the recliner and table. We have two, one is about 80" long and the other is about 68" long. We're thinking that the short one on the curb side is the best one to take out. We first thought that if we took the longer one out on the street side that this would be the best but we found the heater and other things under it that would probably require more work that taking out the curb side couch. Our question is, will the couch go out the door as is or do you have to take the end's off? We purchased 10 gallon's of synthetic oil and plan on doing the oil and filter change on the engine and generator. We've been in our fifth wheel trailer in wyoming and the coach has not been out of our garage since July, we're really anxious to get it going.......Thanks, Bob&Carol 99LX Illinois.......

[Pete Masterson]

Street side sofa has an AquaHot heat radiator and the 12-vdc "filter" (a metal box with some large capacitors inside) under/behind it. In my coach, the heat-thing was accommodated with a 2/3 width drawer under the sofa. The filter goes against the coach wall and does not interfere with the sofa drawer.

The wire chase was not enclosed, but was "finished" with a single board covered with the gray felt "Ozite" fabric attached to the wall and left to hang over the area. Looking behind the sofa from above, you did not see that it was open to the aisle.

When I modified the interior to have filing cabinets where that sofa had been, I built a platform to accommodate both the heat device and the electrical filter. I used the Ozite board to cover the area behind the platform. When I installed the filing cabinets, Iremoved a skinny cabinet (that was virtually useless do to the impossibly narrow door) mounted between the original sofa and the "throne" cabinets that surround the driver's seat.

When installing the new sofa (in preparation of getting the coach ready for sale) I ordered a full width drawer -- which left me with the problem of what to do with the heat radiator. I created a semi-box in the position where the narrow cabinet had been removed, with a vent hole cut toward the aisle-side, with the back and side (toward the sofa) left open (to allow air to flow through) I replaced part of of the Pex tubing (conveniently, there were some copper elbows used to make a tight turn) to the radiator with slightly longer pieces, and then attached the radiator to the back (sofa) side of the throne cabinet. Once the sofa is in place, you just see the top and front of the "box" (covered in the same wood as used for the floor) and the heat blows out next to the sofa rather than from under it.

Again, I used the Ozite-covered board behind the sofa to disguise the view of the open wire-chase from above, if you should look down behind the sofa. As before the electrical filter is attached to the wall and does not project far enough to interfere with the sofa drawer.

Pete Masterson

'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42

El Sobrante CA

"aeonix1@mac.com"

On Sep 20, 2009, at 8:18 AM, tcandt wrote:

We also found the wire run was unfinished behind the sofa. Ernie is making a run box and covering with carpet this weekend.

Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
Aguanga, CA
1995 PT 42
"Fires don't scare me. I stay far away from them."



--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", "Ernie Ekberg" wrote:

bob i took tommy mccarthys curbside couch out and had to separate the top from the bottom ernie

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------Original Message------

From: contrail Bob

To: <"WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com">

Date: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 02:47 AM

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Removing couch

Hi All, We've been gone all summer and just now we're starting to work on our coach that we purchased this past July. We're thinking that we would like to take one of the couch's out and put in the recliner and table. We have two, one is about 80" long and the other is about 68" long. We're thinking that the short one on the curb side is the best one to take out. We first thought that if we took the longer one out on the street side that this would be the best but we found the heater and other things under it that would probably require more work that taking out the curb side couch. Our question is, will the couch go out the door as is or do you have to take the end's off? We purchased 10 gallon's of synthetic oil and plan on doing the oil and filter change on the engine and generator. We've been in our fifth wheel trailer in wyoming and the coach has not been out of our garage since July, we're really anxious to get it going.......Thanks, Bob&Carol 99LX Illinois.......

[SteveQ]

When I removed my curb side sofa it was disassembled to make it easier. I also
had to make a cover for the heat run and wires that were there. I cut three
holes in the top of the cover and installed 4x12 register covers. There is a
hot 12vdc circuit in the bundle of wire that was supposed to go to the Table
in/out, that circuit is not used in my coach.

To improve the heat distribution I installed a snap disk on at 130?degrees amd
off at 90? (I'll look if anyone is interested) to trigger two small computer
cooling fans directly under each register cover using the Table in/out circuit
to power them. There is also a three position switch in the circuit to turn off
the fans, turn on the fans or let the snap disk control them.

There is a little extra noise from these but a real improvement in heat
distribution. If I remeber my calcutaltions these fans (all not individually)
will move the cubic footage of air in the front of the coach every five or six
minutes.

Steve Quandt
1993 PT40
Iron Mountain, MI


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson wrote:
>
> Street side sofa has an AquaHot heat radiator and the 12-vdc
> "filter" (a metal box with some large capacitors inside) under/behind
> it. In my coach, the heat-thing was accommodated with a 2/3 width
> drawer under the sofa. The filter goes against the coach wall and does
> not interfere with the sofa drawer.
>
> The wire chase was not enclosed, but was "finished" with a single
> board covered with the gray felt "Ozite" fabric attached to the wall
> and left to hang over the area. Looking behind the sofa from above,
> you did not see that it was open to the aisle.
>
> When I modified the interior to have filing cabinets where that sofa
> had been, I built a platform to accommodate both the heat device and
> the electrical filter. I used the Ozite board to cover the area behind
> the platform. When I installed the filing cabinets, I removed a skinny
> cabinet (that was virtually useless do to the impossibly narrow door)
> mounted between the original sofa and the "throne" cabinets that
> surround the driver's seat.
>
> When installing the new sofa (in preparation of getting the coach
> ready for sale) I ordered a full width drawer -- which left me with
> the problem of what to do with the heat radiator. I created a semi-box
> in the position where the narrow cabinet had been removed, with a vent
> hole cut toward the aisle-side, with the back and side (toward the
> sofa) left open (to allow air to flow through) I replaced part of of
> the Pex tubing (conveniently, there were some copper elbows used to
> make a tight turn) to the radiator with slightly longer pieces, and
> then attached the radiator to the back (sofa) side of the throne
> cabinet. Once the sofa is in place, you just see the top and front of
> the "box" (covered in the same wood as used for the floor) and the
> heat blows out next to the sofa rather than from under it.
>
> Again, I used the Ozite-covered board behind the sofa to disguise the
> view of the open wire-chase from above, if you should look down behind
> the sofa. As before the electrical filter is attached to the wall and
> does not project far enough to interfere with the sofa drawer.
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@...
>
>
>
> On Sep 20, 2009, at 8:18 AM, tcandt wrote:
>
> > We also found the wire run was unfinished behind the sofa. Ernie is
> > making a run box and covering with carpet this weekend.
> >
> > Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
> > Aguanga, CA
> > 1995 PT 42
> > "Fires don't scare me. I stay far away from them."
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernie Ekberg"
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> bob i took tommy mccarthys curbside couch out and had to separate
> >> the top from the bottom ernie
> >>
> >> ----------
> >> Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email
> >>
> >> ------Original Message------
> >> From: contrail Bob
> >> To:
> >> Date: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 02:47 AM
> >> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Removing couch
> >>
> >> Hi All, We've been gone all summer and just now we're starting to
> >> work on our coach that we purchased this past July. We're
> >> thinking that we would like to take one of the couch's out and put
> >> in the recliner and table. We have two, one is about 80" long and
> >> the other is about 68" long. We're thinking that the short one on
> >> the curb side is the best one to take out. We first thought that if
> >> we took the longer one out on the street side that this would be
> >> the best but we found the heater and other things under it that
> >> would probably require more work that taking out the curb side
> >> couch. Our question is, will the couch go out the door as is or do
> >> you have to take the end's off? We purchased 10 gallon's of
> >> synthetic oil and plan on doing the oil and filter change on the
> >> engine and generator. We've been in our fifth wheel trailer in
> >> wyoming and the coach has not been out of our garage since July,
> >> we're really anxious to get it going.......Thanks, Bob&Carol
> >> 99LX Illinois.......
> >>
>

[jvredden@...]

Steve,
Is your coach heat a Primus or AquaHot ?

John Redden
91 PT 40
N Carolina

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From: "SteveQ"
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:21:27 -0000
To:
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Removing couch

When I removed my curb side sofa it was disassembled to make it easier. I also had to make a cover for the heat run and wires that were there. I cut three holes in the top of the cover and installed 4x12 register covers. There is a hot 12vdc circuit in the bundle of wire that was supposed to go to the Table in/out, that circuit is not used in my coach.

To improve the heat distribution I installed a snap disk on at 130?degrees amd off at 90? (I'll look if anyone is interested) to trigger two small computer cooling fans directly under each register cover using the Table in/out circuit to power them. There is also a three position switch in the circuit to turn off the fans, turn on the fans or let the snap disk control them.

There is a little extra noise from these but a real improvement in heat distribution. If I remeber my calcutaltions these fans (all not individually) will move the cubic footage of air in the front of the coach every five or six minutes.

Steve Quandt
1993 PT40
Iron Mountain, MI

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Pete Masterson > wrote:
>
> Street side sofa has an AquaHot heat radiator and the 12-vdc
> "filter" (a metal box with some large capacitors inside) under/behind
> it. In my coach, the heat-thing was accommodated with a 2/3 width
> drawer under the sofa. The filter goes against the coach wall and does
> not interfere with the sofa drawer.
>
> The wire chase was not enclosed, but was "finished" with a single
> board covered with the gray felt "Ozite" fabric attached to the wall
> and left to hang over the area. Looking behind the sofa from above,
> you did not see that it was open to the aisle.
>
> When I modified the interior to have filing cabinets where that sofa
> had been, I built a platform to accommodate both the heat device and
> the electrical filter. I used the Ozite board to cover the area behind
> the platform. When I installed the filing cabinets, I removed a skinny
> cabinet (that was virtually useless do to the impossibly narrow door)
> mounted between the original sofa and the "throne" cabinets that
> surround the driver's seat.
>
> When installing the new sofa (in preparation of getting the coach
> ready for sale) I ordered a full width drawer -- which left me with
> the problem of what to do with the heat radiator. I created a semi-box
> in the position where the narrow cabinet had been removed, with a vent
> hole cut toward the aisle-side, with the back and side (toward the
> sofa) left open (to allow air to flow through) I replaced part of of
> the Pex tubing (conveniently, there were some copper elbows used to
> make a tight turn) to the radiator with slightly longer pieces, and
> then attached the radiator to the back (sofa) side of the throne
> cabinet. Once the sofa is in place, you just see the top and front of
> the "box" (covered in the same wood as used for the floor) and the
> heat blows out next to the sofa rather than from under it.
>
> Again, I used the Ozite-covered board behind the sofa to disguise the
> view of the open wire-chase from above, if you should look down behind
> the sofa. As before the electrical filter is attached to the wall and
> does not project far enough to interfere with the sofa drawer.
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@...
>
>
>
> On Sep 20, 2009, at 8:18 AM, tcandt wrote:
>
> > We also found the wire run was unfinished behind the sofa. Ernie is
> > making a run box and covering with carpet this weekend.
> >
> > Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
> > Aguanga, CA
> > 1995 PT 42
> > "Fires don't scare me. I stay far away from them."
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Ernie Ekberg"
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> bob i took tommy mccarthys curbside couch out and had to separate
> >> the top from the bottom ernie
> >>
> >> ----------
> >> Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email
> >>
> >> ------Original Message------
> >> From: contrail Bob
> >> To: <"WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com">
> >> Date: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 02:47 AM
> >> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Removing couch
> >>
> >> Hi All, We've been gone all summer and just now we're starting to
> >> work on our coach that we purchased this past July. We're
> >> thinking that we would like to take one of the couch's out and put
> >> in the recliner and table. We have two, one is about 80" long and
> >> the other is about 68" long. We're thinking that the short one on
> >> the curb side is the best one to take out. We first thought that if
> >> we took the longer one out on the street side that this would be
> >> the best but we found the heater and other things under it that
> >> would probably require more work that taking out the curb side
> >> couch. Our question is, will the couch go out the door as is or do
> >> you have to take the end's off? We purchased 10 gallon's of
> >> synthetic oil and plan on doing the oil and filter change on the
> >> engine and generator. We've been in our fifth wheel trailer in
> >> wyoming and the coach has not been out of our garage since July,
> >> we're really anxious to get it going.......Thanks, Bob&Carol
> >> 99LX Illinois.......
> >>
>