Newby with yet another issue. Blue is SUCKING electricity our bill $386 a month

[luckyron1]

We had that issue with our 2000 LXI, at least we thought it was an issue. When
we are hooked up to metered shore power, we switch off the 110 V "Hot Water
Heater" breaker and turn on the Hydronic Heat switch on the dash. This reduces
us from 150.00 to 200.00 per mo in electric to about 40.00 per mo in electric.
Of course we're then burning diesel, but, not much.

San Antonio until Christmas

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Light Ltenergy@..."
wrote:
>
> Well, it seems to be a really GOOD thing I found this forum. We just got our
electric bill for the month. We used a crazy amount of electricity. Our park
people told us a week ago to check things out.
>
> We began checking things and ended up checking each breaker (in the bedroom
closet behind the bed) to see where the pull was coming from. We found a couple
of breakers that seemed to be part of the trouble.
>
> But then again today, the electric meter was SPINNING out of control again.
We turned off the breaker for the upper flor. lights and that helped some. Then
we turned off another breaker that was labled in large red letters, "SURGE"...
there are two breakers with those red words on them. They do seem to be an
issue here. But now... we also found that the battery charger breaker is
pulling HUGE amounts of elec also. We can't leave it off or our batteries will
be sucked dry. When those breakers are OFF... the meter runs normally...
>
> ANY IDEAS? We are working to get past owners help on this also, but haven't
gotten to contact them yet. Someone used the RED marker to mark those
breakers... so SOMEONE knows something or at least was aware of the problems...
>
> ANY IDEAS would be SO appreciated. The electric bill for 30 days was
$386................ ouch!!! We can't keep affording that... sheesh...
>
> HELP...
>
> hugs, Light
>

[Wallace Craig]

I think everyone would appreciate it if you signed your name and year of coach. Happily mine comes up automatically so I don't have to remember it. Wallace Craig 95 WLWB 42 Azle, Texas --- On Sat, 11/7/09, luckyron1 wrote: From: luckyron1 Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Newby with yet another issue. Blue is SUCKING electricity our bill $386 a month To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 9:38 AM We had that issue with our 2000 LXI, at least we thought it was an issue. When we are hooked up to metered shore power, we switch off the 110 V "Hot Water Heater" breaker and turn on the Hydronic Heat switch on the dash. This reduces us from 150.00 to 200.00 per mo in electric to about 40.00 per mo in electric. Of course we're then burning diesel, but, not much. San Antonio until Christmas --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Light Ltenergy@..." wrote: > > Well, it seems to be a really GOOD thing I found this forum. We just got our electric bill for the month. We used a crazy amount of electricity. Our park people told us a week ago to check things out. > > We began checking things and ended up checking each breaker (in the bedroom closet behind the bed) to see where the pull was coming from. We found a couple of breakers that seemed to be part of the trouble. > > But then again today, the electric meter was SPINNING out of control again. We turned off the breaker for the upper flor. lights and that helped some. Then we turned off another breaker that was labled in large red letters, "SURGE"... there are two breakers with those red words on them. They do seem to be an issue here. But now... we also found that the battery charger breaker is pulling HUGE amounts of elec also. We can't leave it off or our batteries will be sucked dry. When those breakers are OFF... the meter runs normally... > > ANY IDEAS? We are working to get past owners help on this also, but haven't gotten to contact them yet. Someone used the RED marker to mark those breakers... so SOMEONE knows something or at least was aware of the problems... > > ANY IDEAS would be SO appreciated. The electric bill for 30 days was $386................ ouch!!!We can't keep affording that... sheesh... > > HELP... > > hugs, Light > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: WanderlodgeForum-digest@yahoogroups.com WanderlodgeForum-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[freewill2008]

Been following this thread with some interest. To know how much power $386
represents, you need to know the electric rate.

If you were paying Washington State rates, $386 would represent around 150
kilowatts (KW) per day. If your rate is triple that of Washington ($0.25 per
KW) then $386 would represent around 50 KW per day.

Our 1500 sq ft house has two energy inputs: Electricity and firewood. The
electric consumption ranges between 40 KW per day and 100 KW per day depending
on how much electric heat or air conditioning we use.

So, if your local rate is around $0.25/KW then you may be using about the right
amount of power for a small electric powered "house". But if your local rate is
as low at $0.08/KW then you are probably looking for up to 100 KW/day of wasted
power.

There have been many good suggestions as to where you may be using excess power,
and they are all worth looking into. On the other hand it is good to remember
that these coaches were designed for original owners who probably did not take a
second look at their power bill.

Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Light Ltenergy@..."
wrote:
>
> Well, it seems to be a really GOOD thing I found this forum. We just got our
electric bill for the month. We used a crazy amount of electricity. Our park
people told us a week ago to check things out.
>
> We began checking things and ended up checking each breaker (in the bedroom
closet behind the bed) to see where the pull was coming from. We found a couple
of breakers that seemed to be part of the trouble.
>
> But then again today, the electric meter was SPINNING out of control again.
We turned off the breaker for the upper flor. lights and that helped some. Then
we turned off another breaker that was labled in large red letters, "SURGE"...
there are two breakers with those red words on them. They do seem to be an
issue here. But now... we also found that the battery charger breaker is
pulling HUGE amounts of elec also. We can't leave it off or our batteries will
be sucked dry. When those breakers are OFF... the meter runs normally...
>
> ANY IDEAS? We are working to get past owners help on this also, but haven't
gotten to contact them yet. Someone used the RED marker to mark those
breakers... so SOMEONE knows something or at least was aware of the problems...
>
> ANY IDEAS would be SO appreciated. The electric bill for 30 days was
$386................ ouch!!! We can't keep affording that... sheesh...
>
> HELP...
>
> hugs, Light
>

[gregory O]

this is a good way to clue for shorts in your system like the one that may have
caused the RonM and Dupree fire???? if you have a big amp draw off the
batteries, and nothing is running, the stored energy is going some place.

patterns and trends reduced to some math is my only interest with maintenance
records keeping. comparing the records to others records is vital if you think
something is abnormal. electric bill cost says nothing as I pay over $1,000. per
month at home but $750. of that amount is bulled at $rates +double the cost per
units due to over allotment penalty .

the ammonia refers burn more amps than compressor refers. I also would think
they are less efficient in extreme cold weather also. it is easy to test for
cost of appliance usage Costco sells a consumable amp gauge that you place
between the wall outlet and the appliance. you can input your local utility
costs or just calc the amps used.

if this unit will take the 20 amp pass of the inverter chargers, you can use it
to find the consuming rates then cost of operating various appliances. posted
results by other forum members may help prove efficiency and create a standard
to recognize as normal operation

same goes for tire running temps and axle running temps

Greg
94ptca

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "luckyron1" wrote:
>
>
>
> We had that issue with our 2000 LXI, at least we thought it was an issue.
When we are hooked up to metered shore power, we switch off the 110 V "Hot Water
Heater" breaker and turn on the Hydronic Heat switch on the dash. This reduces
us from 150.00 to 200.00 per mo in electric to about 40.00 per mo in electric.
Of course we're then burning diesel, but, not much.
>
> San Antonio until Christmas
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Light Ltenergy@"
wrote:
> >
> > Well, it seems to be a really GOOD thing I found this forum. We just got
our electric bill for the month. We used a crazy amount of electricity. Our
park people told us a week ago to check things out.
> >
> > We began checking things and ended up checking each breaker (in the bedroom
closet behind the bed) to see where the pull was coming from. We found a couple
of breakers that seemed to be part of the trouble.
> >
> > But then again today, the electric meter was SPINNING out of control again.
We turned off the breaker for the upper flor. lights and that helped some. Then
we turned off another breaker that was labled in large red letters, "SURGE"...
there are two breakers with those red words on them. They do seem to be an
issue here. But now... we also found that the battery charger breaker is
pulling HUGE amounts of elec also. We can't leave it off or our batteries will
be sucked dry. When those breakers are OFF... the meter runs normally...
> >
> > ANY IDEAS? We are working to get past owners help on this also, but haven't
gotten to contact them yet. Someone used the RED marker to mark those
breakers... so SOMEONE knows something or at least was aware of the problems...
> >
> > ANY IDEAS would be SO appreciated. The electric bill for 30 days was
$386................ ouch!!! We can't keep affording that... sheesh...
> >
> > HELP...
> >
> > hugs, Light
> >
>