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Putting in a Fantastic Fan in the kitchen - Bob Lawrence - 01-19-2007 13:24
Hi group,
I have a roof vent in the kitchen that isn't motorized and I want to
change it to a Fantastic fan.
Problem is there is no 12v close by. I have a ceiling light by the
sink, but since it is controlled by a switch at the sink, it doesn't
seem to me right to tap into the wires at the light. I would have to
leave the light on all the time.
The only other think I can think of is to take a plumbers tape and go
across to the back of the fridge and poke a hole in the ceiling panel
and get power that way.
Anybody do this mod and get power some other way?
Bob Lawrence
84 PT 36
Tacoma, Wa. (with 8 months left before we fulltime outta here)
Putting in a Fantastic Fan in the kitchen - Leroy Eckert - 01-19-2007 14:23
This may be a long shot.
Is it possible to disconnect the hot wire at the light fixture, attach .032
safety wire to it and pull it back to the light switch. Attach a second wire to
the .032 safety wire and pull both wires back to the light fixture.( Tape the
end before pulling) Connect the fan wire to the constant hot side of the light
switch. Reconnect the light fixture wire. Find a place in the fixture or the
fan housing to fuse the fan line per manufactures spec's. Then you need the
ground.
I have used this procedure to pull wires with excellent results.
Your post indicates the light is 12v, I hope. I have ignored the possible need
for a relay.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors
Niceville, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Lawrence
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 7:24 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Putting in a Fantastic Fan in the kitchen
Hi group,
I have a roof vent in the kitchen that isn't motorized and I want to
change it to a Fantastic fan.
Problem is there is no 12v close by. I have a ceiling light by the
sink, but since it is controlled by a switch at the sink, it doesn't
seem to me right to tap into the wires at the light. I would have to
leave the light on all the time.
The only other think I can think of is to take a plumbers tape and go
across to the back of the fridge and poke a hole in the ceiling panel
and get power that way.
Anybody do this mod and get power some other way?
Bob Lawrence
84 PT 36
Tacoma, Wa. (with 8 months left before we fulltime outta here)
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Putting in a Fantastic Fan in the kitchen - Bob Lawrence - 01-19-2007 16:52
Thanks, Leroy,
That might be possible...thanks again.
Bob
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
>
> This may be a long shot.
> Is it possible to disconnect the hot wire at the light fixture,
attach .032 safety wire to it and pull it back to the light switch.
Attach a second wire to the .032 safety wire and pull both wires back
to the light fixture.( Tape the end before pulling) Connect the fan
wire to the constant hot side of the light switch. Reconnect the
light fixture wire. Find a place in the fixture or the fan housing
to fuse the fan line per manufactures spec's. Then you need the
ground.
> I have used this procedure to pull wires with excellent results.
> Your post indicates the light is 12v, I hope. I have ignored the
possible need for a relay.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors
> Niceville, FL
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Lawrence
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 7:24 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Putting in a Fantastic Fan in the
kitchen
>
>
> Hi group,
> I have a roof vent in the kitchen that isn't motorized and I want
to
> change it to a Fantastic fan.
> Problem is there is no 12v close by. I have a ceiling light by
the
> sink, but since it is controlled by a switch at the sink, it
doesn't
> seem to me right to tap into the wires at the light. I would have
to
> leave the light on all the time.
> The only other think I can think of is to take a plumbers tape
and go
> across to the back of the fridge and poke a hole in the ceiling
panel
> and get power that way.
> Anybody do this mod and get power some other way?
>
> Bob Lawrence
> 84 PT 36
> Tacoma, Wa. (with 8 months left before we fulltime outta here)
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Putting in a Fantastic Fan in the kitchen - Chuck Wheeler - 01-19-2007 18:13
Bob,
When you take the old vent out probe around a little. There is a lot of
wiring that crosses over next to the ceiling ribs. Some of it is AC and some
DC but in my coach the AC is in ROMAX. If you find DC check to which
circuit it is, you may find you have power right there.
- Chuck Wheeler -
82 FC 31 SB
Fort Worth, TX
_____
From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Lawrence
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:52 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Putting in a Fantastic Fan in the kitchen
Thanks, Leroy,
That might be possible...thanks again.
Bob
--- In WanderlodgeForum@
yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
>
> This may be a long shot.
> Is it possible to disconnect the hot wire at the light fixture,
attach .032 safety wire to it and pull it back to the light switch.
Attach a second wire to the .032 safety wire and pull both wires back
to the light fixture.( Tape the end before pulling) Connect the fan
wire to the constant hot side of the light switch. Reconnect the
light fixture wire. Find a place in the fixture or the fan housing
to fuse the fan line per manufactures spec's. Then you need the
ground.
> I have used this procedure to pull wires with excellent results.
> Your post indicates the light is 12v, I hope. I have ignored the
possible need for a relay.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors
> Niceville, FL
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Lawrence
> To: WanderlodgeForum@
yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 7:24 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Putting in a Fantastic Fan in the
kitchen
>
>
> Hi group,
> I have a roof vent in the kitchen that isn't motorized and I want
to
> change it to a Fantastic fan.
> Problem is there is no 12v close by. I have a ceiling light by
the
> sink, but since it is controlled by a switch at the sink, it
doesn't
> seem to me right to tap into the wires at the light. I would have
to
> leave the light on all the time.
> The only other think I can think of is to take a plumbers tape
and go
> across to the back of the fridge and poke a hole in the ceiling
panel
> and get power that way.
> Anybody do this mod and get power some other way?
>
> Bob Lawrence
> 84 PT 36
> Tacoma, Wa. (with 8 months left before we fulltime outta here)
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Putting in a Fantastic Fan in the kitchen - Curt Sprenger - 01-19-2007 18:53
Right Check. I believe BB originally wired the area with 12V. Maybe
someone modified that area, but the 12V should still be there. Pull down
the vent and check. I'd be surprised if you do not find 12V wiring in
that area.
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, Calif.
Chuck Wheeler wrote:
> Bob,
>
> When you take the old vent out probe around a little. There is a lot of
> wiring that crosses over next to the ceiling ribs. Some of it is AC
> and some
> DC but in my coach the AC is in ROMAX. If you find DC check to which
> circuit it is, you may find you have power right there.
>
> - Chuck Wheeler -
> 82 FC 31 SB
> Fort Worth, TX
>
>
> _____
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:52 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Putting in a Fantastic Fan in the kitchen
>
> Thanks, Leroy,
> That might be possible...thanks again.
> Bob
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@
> yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
>
> >
> > This may be a long shot.
> > Is it possible to disconnect the hot wire at the light fixture,
> attach .032 safety wire to it and pull it back to the light switch.
> Attach a second wire to the .032 safety wire and pull both wires back
> to the light fixture.( Tape the end before pulling) Connect the fan
> wire to the constant hot side of the light switch. Reconnect the
> light fixture wire. Find a place in the fixture or the fan housing
> to fuse the fan line per manufactures spec's. Then you need the
> ground.
> > I have used this procedure to pull wires with excellent results.
> > Your post indicates the light is 12v, I hope. I have ignored the
> possible need for a relay.
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors
> > Niceville, FL
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bob Lawrence
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@
> yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 7:24 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Putting in a Fantastic Fan in the
> kitchen
> >
> >
> > Hi group,
> > I have a roof vent in the kitchen that isn't motorized and I want
> to
> > change it to a Fantastic fan.
> > Problem is there is no 12v close by. I have a ceiling light by
> the
> > sink, but since it is controlled by a switch at the sink, it
> doesn't
> > seem to me right to tap into the wires at the light. I would have
> to
> > leave the light on all the time.
> > The only other think I can think of is to take a plumbers tape
> and go
> > across to the back of the fridge and poke a hole in the ceiling
> panel
> > and get power that way.
> > Anybody do this mod and get power some other way?
> >
> > Bob Lawrence
> > 84 PT 36
> > Tacoma, Wa. (with 8 months left before we fulltime outta here)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
Putting in a Fantastic Fan in the kitchen - ebirder2000@... - 01-19-2007 23:32
Hey Bob , You could check to see if the switch switches the positive or the
ground. It could be that the 12 V is at the light full time and the light
switch completes the circuit to ground.
Steve
In a message dated 1/19/2007 5:28:25 PM Pacific Standard Time,
bobandarlene@... writes:
Hi group,
I have a roof vent in the kitchen that isn't motorized and I want to
change it to a Fantastic fan.
Problem is there is no 12v close by. I have a ceiling light by the
sink, but since it is controlled by a switch at the sink, it doesn't
seem to me right to tap into the wires at the light. I would have to
leave the light on all the time.
The only other think I can think of is to take a plumbers tape and go
across to the back of the fridge and poke a hole in the ceiling panel
and get power that way.
Anybody do this mod and get power some other way?
Bob Lawrence
84 PT 36
Tacoma, Wa. (with 8 months left before we fulltime outta here)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Putting in a Fantastic Fan in the kitchen - Bob Lawrence - 01-20-2007 06:07
Thanks Curt,
I'll check this first.
Bob
>
> Right Check. I believe BB originally wired the area with 12V. Maybe
> someone modified that area, but the 12V should still be there. Pull
down
> the vent and check. I'd be surprised if you do not find 12V wiring
in
> that area.
>
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
>
>
> Chuck Wheeler wrote:
>
> > Bob,
> >
> > When you take the old vent out probe around a little. There is a
lot of
> > wiring that crosses over next to the ceiling ribs. Some of it is
AC
> > and some
> > DC but in my coach the AC is in ROMAX. If you find DC check to
which
> > circuit it is, you may find you have power right there.
> >
> > - Chuck Wheeler -
> > 82 FC 31 SB
> > Fort Worth, TX
> >
>
Putting in a Fantastic Fan in the kitchen - Bob Lawrence - 01-20-2007 06:09
Thanks Steve,
I'll put a meter on the wires and see.
Bob
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, ebirder2000@... wrote:
>
>
> Hey Bob , You could check to see if the switch switches the positive
or the
> ground. It could be that the 12 V is at the light full time and the
light
> switch completes the circuit to ground.
>
> Steve
Putting in a Fantastic Fan in the kitchen - freewill2008 - 01-20-2007 08:35
Hi Bob - I recently pulled a bunch of cable and air hose all over the
ceiling of our rig (Solar battery system and new air horns). I can
help you if you aren't done by the next time we get together. Once you
get to the raceways behind the overheads there is always a way to get
power, including establishing a new branch circuit if needed. Piece of
cake!
Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
>
> Hi group,
> I have a roof vent in the kitchen that isn't motorized and I want to
> change it to a Fantastic fan.
> Problem is there is no 12v close by. I have a ceiling light by the
> sink, but since it is controlled by a switch at the sink, it doesn't
> seem to me right to tap into the wires at the light. I would have to
> leave the light on all the time.
> The only other think I can think of is to take a plumbers tape and go
> across to the back of the fridge and poke a hole in the ceiling panel
> and get power that way.
> Anybody do this mod and get power some other way?
>
> Bob Lawrence
> 84 PT 36
> Tacoma, Wa. (with 8 months left before we fulltime outta here)
>
Putting in a Fantastic Fan in the kitchen - Bob Lawrence - 01-20-2007 13:59
Curt,
Found 12 volts stuffed up behind the vent. Looks like this was done
at the factory. Tied off and not used. Had 12v there. Will be a
simple job to add the fan now....thanks again...saved me $ and time.
Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
Tacky Tacoma Wa. (actually Lakewood, where that 9 yr old kid stole a
car and got on 2 planes to fly to Texas because he didn't want to
live next door to a molester..lot of them here)
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Lawrence"
>
> Thanks Curt,
> I'll check this first.
> Bob
> >
> > Right Check. I believe BB originally wired the area with 12V.
Maybe
> > someone modified that area, but the 12V should still be there.
Pull
> down
> > the vent and check. I'd be surprised if you do not find 12V
wiring
> in
> > that area.
> >
> > Curt Sprenger
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> >
> >
> >
> > Chuck Wheeler wrote:
> >
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > When you take the old vent out probe around a little. There is
a
> lot of
> > > wiring that crosses over next to the ceiling ribs. Some of it
is
> AC
> > > and some
> > > DC but in my coach the AC is in ROMAX. If you find DC check to
> which
> > > circuit it is, you may find you have power right there.
> > >
> > > - Chuck Wheeler -
> > > 82 FC 31 SB
> > > Fort Worth, TX
> > >
> >
>