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Sticky bedroom window - Pete Masterson - 07-05-2007 14:52 Today I removed the frame around the bedroom window (for reasons that aren't important to this comment) and I discovered that the "reluctant" window now opens with no problem. Apparently, the window frame rubs on the "inside" sliding window so that it won't open. When I replace the window frame, I'm going to shim it slightly so that there's a little gap so the window will be able to slide. Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 El Sobrante CA aeonix1@... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Sticky bedroom window - Curt Sprenger - 07-05-2007 14:59 Pete, Did you remove the inside or outside window frame? Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" Anaheim Hills, Calif. Pete Masterson wrote: > Today I removed the frame around the bedroom window (for reasons that > aren't important to this comment) and I discovered that the > "reluctant" window now opens with no problem. Apparently, the window > frame rubs on the "inside" sliding window so that it won't open. > > When I replace the window frame, I'm going to shim it slightly so > that there's a little gap so the window will be able to slide. > > Pete Masterson > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 > El Sobrante CA > aeonix1@... > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Sticky bedroom window - Pete Masterson - 07-05-2007 15:19 Inside, wooden frame. (I'm installing a new day/night shade and I needed to "adjust" the frame size a tad.) The wooden frame was held to the wall with several screws hidden under little wooden plugs. Once the frame was removed, then the "inside" window slid back and forth with ease. The "outside" window already worked ok. Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 El Sobrante CA aeonix1@... On Jul 5, 2007, at 7:59 PM, Curt Sprenger wrote: > Pete, > Did you remove the inside or outside window frame? > > Curt Sprenger > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" > Anaheim Hills, Calif. > > > > Pete Masterson wrote: > >> Today I removed the frame around the bedroom window (for reasons that >> aren't important to this comment) and I discovered that the >> "reluctant" window now opens with no problem. Apparently, the window >> frame rubs on the "inside" sliding window so that it won't open. >> >> When I replace the window frame, I'm going to shim it slightly so >> that there's a little gap so the window will be able to slide. >> >> Pete Masterson >> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 >> El Sobrante CA >> aeonix1@... >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Sticky bedroom window - Curt Sprenger - 07-05-2007 15:39 Thanks, Pete. I was thinking you were fiddling with window coverings. Something on my to-do-list is the window coverings. I'd like to do away with the original drapes. Anyone taken on this project? Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" Anaheim Hills, Calif. Pete Masterson wrote: > Inside, wooden frame. (I'm installing a new day/night shade and I > needed to "adjust" the frame size a tad.) The wooden frame was held > to the wall with several screws hidden under little wooden plugs. > Once the frame was removed, then the "inside" window slid back and > forth with ease. The "outside" window already worked ok. > > Pete Masterson > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 > El Sobrante CA > aeonix1@... > > On Jul 5, 2007, at 7:59 PM, Curt Sprenger wrote: > > > Pete, > > Did you remove the inside or outside window frame? > > > > Curt Sprenger > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" > > Anaheim Hills, Calif. > > > > > > > > Pete Masterson wrote: > > > >> Today I removed the frame around the bedroom window (for reasons that > >> aren't important to this comment) and I discovered that the > >> "reluctant" window now opens with no problem. Apparently, the window > >> frame rubs on the "inside" sliding window so that it won't open. > >> > >> When I replace the window frame, I'm going to shim it slightly so > >> that there's a little gap so the window will be able to slide. > >> > >> Pete Masterson > >> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 > >> El Sobrante CA > >> aeonix1@... > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Sticky bedroom window - brad barton - 07-06-2007 06:06 Curt, On our older coach, we simply took out the set screws that held the drape tabs in..and slid everything off the tracks. If you like day/nights, they're easy enough to put in..but we just used the original roll shades. The lack of pleated drapes modernized the look of the coach immediately. And if you have the overhead valance cabinets up front, taking your drapes out might make your coach feel more spacious up front. On our LXi, I found out the night shades had hardly been used at all..very sticky..almost to the point of tearing. I'm not sure what to do other than use them. Any way to clean them without damage? Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@... To: WanderlodgeForum@...: curtsprenger@...: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:39:09 -0700Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Sticky bedroom window Thanks, Pete.I was thinking you were fiddling with window coverings. Something on my to-do-list is the window coverings. I'd like to do away with the original drapes. Anyone taken on this project?Curt Sprenger1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"Anaheim Hills, Calif.Pete Masterson wrote:> Inside, wooden frame. (I'm installing a new day/night shade and I> needed to "adjust" the frame size a tad.) The wooden frame was held> to the wall with several screws hidden under little wooden plugs.> Once the frame was removed, then the "inside" window slid back and> forth with ease. The "outside" window already worked ok.>> Pete Masterson> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42> El Sobrante CA> aeonix1@... > Pete,> > Did you remove the inside or outside window frame?> >> > Curt Sprenger> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"> > Anaheim Hills, Calif.> >> >> >> > Pete Masterson wrote:> >> >> Today I removed the frame around the bedroom window (for reasons that> >> aren't important to this comment) and I discovered that the> >> "reluctant" window now opens with no problem. Apparently, the window> >> frame rubs on the "inside" sliding window so that it won't open.> >>> >> When I replace the window frame, I'm going to shim it slightly so> >> that there's a little gap so the window will be able to slide.> >>> >> Pete Masterson> >> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42> >> El Sobrante CA> >> aeonix1@... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links> >> >> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]>> _________________________________________________________________ Local listings, incredible imagery, and driving directions - all in one place! Find it! http://maps.live.com/?wip=69&FORM=MGAC01 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Sticky bedroom window - mohavewolfpup - 07-06-2007 06:13 Maybe take it out, and use the old "open a envelope you don't want your parents to see?" trick? I'm not sure what they exactly look like/how they come out not being a coach owner sadly, but I'm kinda guessing it looks like it is rolled up and would rip if you tried to lower it? Pop them out, and hold over a decent steam source for a while to see if maybe that loosens the adhesive/soda/whatever and allows it to be spread out and cleaned perhaps? Dane _____ From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of brad barton Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 11:06 To: wanderlodgeforum@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Sticky bedroom window On our LXi, I found out the night shades had hardly been used at all..very sticky..almost to the point of tearing. I'm not sure what to do other than use them. Any way to clean them without damage? Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@hotmail. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Sticky bedroom window - Pete Masterson - 07-06-2007 10:33 Well, that's what we're doing. The coach had _hideous_ material in the bedroom and merely a poor color choice up front. There were 3 things to change. The "base" colors in the coach -- browns and tans are OK. The gaudy print fabric used as the third "color value" was rather jarring to our nerves. 1. the thing above the window that hides the lights and the AC vents. You must look carefully and find the screws/fittings that hold it on the wall. Then the 2 levels of 'padded boards' can be removed by loosening the screws that hold them on from the back side. We recovered the largest board with a neutral-colored upholstery fabric and discarded the smaller board. This reduces the 3-tone arrangement to a 2-tone arrangement. 2. The valance (that covers the top of the shade) had two strips of this same ugly fabric. We recovered it in a handwoven, neutral colored fabric that my wife had used for our home drapes. We choose this fabric because it had a little more character than the neutral upholstery fabric -- but we'd run out of it any way. (We bought the fabric to redo the 'forward salon' area and hadn't really gotten enough for the bedroom.) 3. The original window shade is a "day -night" shade that features a pleated, translucent material behind a "roman shade" made with the ugly OEM fabric. It's a tricky design, that works with two pull- cords. One raises the roman shade and the other raises the pleated shade. The shades are hooked together, so they operate in a combined system. Upon inspection, there was no way that we could practically disassemble this shade, so we ordered a "day/night" shade from Tweedys. The shade we received is a bit different in design than the original. It has two sections, a translucent pleated shade and a solid pleated shade. They use an anchored string and you either pull one section or both sections down depending on what amount of light you want to let in. Personally, I prefer the design of the OEM shade, but this one appears to be a serviceable design. I've seen similar shades in use in some other RVs. We selected neutral/beige colors that will blend with our other color choices. When we're further along on the project, I'll take some photos and make them available to the list. Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 El Sobrante CA aeonix1@... On Jul 5, 2007, at 8:39 PM, Curt Sprenger wrote: > Thanks, Pete. > > I was thinking you were fiddling with window coverings. Something > on my > to-do-list is the window coverings. I'd like to do away with the > original drapes. Anyone taken on this project? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Sticky bedroom window - Leroy Eckert - 07-06-2007 10:57 Pete, I have looked at many high dollar coaches. I agree that some of the color selections are, well, hideous. But think, some high dollar designer was paid big money to put your combination together. I work with designers every day. I was going to say more than "I wonder" about interior design but won't. I just finished a 35sq ft pool bath floor, 2x2 aluminum tiles made from reclaimed beer cans in polished, brushed and sandblasted surface finish. All set one piece at a time. It's gonna turn white and black and become very ugly. I might add, very expensive. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" Niceville, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: Pete Masterson To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Sticky bedroom window Well, that's what we're doing. The coach had _hideous_ material in the bedroom and merely a poor color choice up front. There were 3 things to change. The "base" colors in the coach -- browns and tans are OK. The gaudy print fabric used as the third "color value" was rather jarring to our nerves. 1. the thing above the window that hides the lights and the AC vents. You must look carefully and find the screws/fittings that hold it on the wall. Then the 2 levels of 'padded boards' can be removed by loosening the screws that hold them on from the back side. We recovered the largest board with a neutral-colored upholstery fabric and discarded the smaller board. This reduces the 3-tone arrangement to a 2-tone arrangement. 2. The valance (that covers the top of the shade) had two strips of this same ugly fabric. We recovered it in a handwoven, neutral colored fabric that my wife had used for our home drapes. We choose this fabric because it had a little more character than the neutral upholstery fabric -- but we'd run out of it any way. (We bought the fabric to redo the 'forward salon' area and hadn't really gotten enough for the bedroom.) 3. The original window shade is a "day -night" shade that features a pleated, translucent material behind a "roman shade" made with the ugly OEM fabric. It's a tricky design, that works with two pull- cords. One raises the roman shade and the other raises the pleated shade. The shades are hooked together, so they operate in a combined system. Upon inspection, there was no way that we could practically disassemble this shade, so we ordered a "day/night" shade from Tweedys. The shade we received is a bit different in design than the original. It has two sections, a translucent pleated shade and a solid pleated shade. They use an anchored string and you either pull one section or both sections down depending on what amount of light you want to let in. Personally, I prefer the design of the OEM shade, but this one appears to be a serviceable design. I've seen similar shades in use in some other RVs. We selected neutral/beige colors that will blend with our other color choices. When we're further along on the project, I'll take some photos and make them available to the list. Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 El Sobrante CA aeonix1@... On Jul 5, 2007, at 8:39 PM, Curt Sprenger wrote: > Thanks, Pete. > > I was thinking you were fiddling with window coverings. Something > on my > to-do-list is the window coverings. I'd like to do away with the > original drapes. Anyone taken on this project? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Sticky bedroom window - Pete Masterson - 07-06-2007 13:21 Although I'm not an "interior designer" as a professional book designer/graphic artist, I do have a sense of color and style -- in addition, my spouse has a Bachelor's of Fine Art with emphasis in weaving (and spent 30 years weaving fabrics and wall hangings) -- so fabric arts are well within her scope. Still, I can't believe some of the choices I've seen in high-end coaches. And, to think, the ones I've seen tend to be those selected as "display" models to show off the company's work. I commented on the poor color choice in the forward salon -- but I had forgotten that somebody had re-covered the sofa and other decorative fabrics to "get rid of" the pattern that was used in the bedroom. Apparently, in the OEM version, the fabric had been used throughout the coach. Now, some of the items, such as the "sculptured" carpet might be considered simply a matter of difference of opinion in style/color choice. But, I have to say, the fabric used in the OEM version of my coach makes you simply wonder, what where they thinking? For those who are consumed with curiosity, the coach, as it appeared at Mr. Olivers before I bought it can be seen at <http://homepage.mac.com/aeonix1/Bluebird/PhotoAlbum10.html> The original bedroom window covering can be seen in photo "95lxi4281", which is the 5th before the end of the thumbnails. Double click the image to see a full size view. The last photo in the series shows the 'forward salon' with the facing sofas. The 'blue- green' sofa color was probably selected based on the similar color in the carpet. Originally, this sofa, and the trim above the windows, (apparently) used the same fabric as the window shade in the bedroom. (The sofa had been completely recovered, but when we replaced the fabric above the windows, I could see the OEM fabric had been covered by the blue-green fabric.) Note: We have removed the two sofas. On the street side, are two metal filing cabinets and on the curb side I've ordered a custom desk now being manufactured by Davis Cabinets in Junction City Oregon. The desk will be installed in September. Meanwhile, I'm removing the carpet (it's old, worn, and stained) and we've decided to replace it with bamboo flooring. (The bamboo is quite durable and is similar to a hardwood.) I'll be using an "engineered wood" product that is easy to install. Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 El Sobrante CA aeonix1@... On Jul 6, 2007, at 3:57 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote: > Pete, I have looked at many high dollar coaches. I agree that some > of the color selections are, well, hideous. But think, some high > dollar designer was paid big money to put your combination together. > I work with designers every day. I was going to say more than "I > wonder" about interior design but won't. > I just finished a 35sq ft pool bath floor, 2x2 aluminum tiles made > from reclaimed beer cans in polished, brushed and sandblasted > surface finish. All set one piece at a time. It's gonna turn white > and black and become very ugly. I might add, very expensive. > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" > Niceville, FL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Sticky bedroom window - Leroy Eckert - 07-06-2007 14:28 Very nice looking coach Pete. White makes it look larger than it actually is. I can see why you would off the bedroom window treatment. It might keep you awake at night. Just wondering, with metal cabinets on the road side and a desk on the other where are you folks going to sit? Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" Niceville, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: Pete Masterson To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Sticky bedroom window Although I'm not an "interior designer" as a professional book designer/graphic artist, I do have a sense of color and style -- in addition, my spouse has a Bachelor's of Fine Art with emphasis in weaving (and spent 30 years weaving fabrics and wall hangings) -- so fabric arts are well within her scope. Still, I can't believe some of the choices I've seen in high-end coaches. And, to think, the ones I've seen tend to be those selected as "display" models to show off the company's work. I commented on the poor color choice in the forward salon -- but I had forgotten that somebody had re-covered the sofa and other decorative fabrics to "get rid of" the pattern that was used in the bedroom. Apparently, in the OEM version, the fabric had been used throughout the coach. Now, some of the items, such as the "sculptured" carpet might be considered simply a matter of difference of opinion in style/color choice. But, I have to say, the fabric used in the OEM version of my coach makes you simply wonder, what where they thinking? For those who are consumed with curiosity, the coach, as it appeared at Mr. Olivers before I bought it can be seen at <http://homepage.mac.com/aeonix1/Bluebird/PhotoAlbum10.html> The original bedroom window covering can be seen in photo "95lxi4281", which is the 5th before the end of the thumbnails. Double click the image to see a full size view. The last photo in the series shows the 'forward salon' with the facing sofas. The 'blue- green' sofa color was probably selected based on the similar color in the carpet. Originally, this sofa, and the trim above the windows, (apparently) used the same fabric as the window shade in the bedroom. (The sofa had been completely recovered, but when we replaced the fabric above the windows, I could see the OEM fabric had been covered by the blue-green fabric.) Note: We have removed the two sofas. On the street side, are two metal filing cabinets and on the curb side I've ordered a custom desk now being manufactured by Davis Cabinets in Junction City Oregon. The desk will be installed in September. Meanwhile, I'm removing the carpet (it's old, worn, and stained) and we've decided to replace it with bamboo flooring. (The bamboo is quite durable and is similar to a hardwood.) I'll be using an "engineered wood" product that is easy to install. Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 El Sobrante CA aeonix1@... On Jul 6, 2007, at 3:57 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote: > Pete, I have looked at many high dollar coaches. I agree that some > of the color selections are, well, hideous. But think, some high > dollar designer was paid big money to put your combination together. > I work with designers every day. I was going to say more than "I > wonder" about interior design but won't. > I just finished a 35sq ft pool bath floor, 2x2 aluminum tiles made > from reclaimed beer cans in polished, brushed and sandblasted > surface finish. All set one piece at a time. It's gonna turn white > and black and become very ugly. I might add, very expensive. > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" > Niceville, FL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |