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Can Anyone Help??? Stuck with an extended generator... 84PT40!!!! - Scott Forman - 06-29-2007 10:06
I have the light, and it comes on when I extend the tray. Strange.
Scott
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Wright"
>
> On 6/29/07, mbulriss <mbulriss@...> wrote:
> >
> > Scott,
> >
> > I don't known the answer to that. I thought all the early/mid
80s
> > with hydraulic rams had the manual lock. Looks like I was wrong
in
> > that assumption. Someone with another 86 will have to address
your
> > question.
>
> Scott,
>
> '86 PT-40 here. I have a lock. Big black lever on the front. I would
> expect you should have one, too. Do you have the corresponding dash
> light?? I have a red light on the dash that will come on if the gen
> tray is unlocked. The digitel will also complain about it.
>
> I'd find out why you don't have one - previous owner modification is
> my guess - and get it fixed. I'd imagine this is a critical safety
> feature to keep the genset in the coach. You'd hate to lose the
entire
> unit into the back of a compact if you had to come to a quick stop
and
> the hydraulics decided not to hold it.
>
> -Ryan
> '86 PT-40 8V92
> Tri-Cities, WA
>
Can Anyone Help??? Stuck with an extended generator... 84PT40!!!! - mbulriss - 06-29-2007 10:54
Scott,
Starting to sound like a prior owner modification to remove the
locking slider bar that I would not care for if it was mine. The
small stop tabs at the back of the tray runners will not stop it under
a hard stop. Seems like a few years back, someone posted about their
genset tray sliding out and landing on the road in front of them under
a hard braking scenario. Oooops! Anyone else remember that post?
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX - nice and steamy right now.....
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@...>
wrote:
>
> I have the light, and it comes on when I extend the tray. Strange.
>
> Scott
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Wright"
>
> >
> > On 6/29/07, mbulriss <mbulriss@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Scott,
> > >
> > > I don't known the answer to that. I thought all the early/mid
> 80s
> > > with hydraulic rams had the manual lock. Looks like I was wrong
> in
> > > that assumption. Someone with another 86 will have to address
> your
> > > question.
> >
> > Scott,
> >
> > '86 PT-40 here. I have a lock. Big black lever on the front. I would
> > expect you should have one, too. Do you have the corresponding dash
> > light?? I have a red light on the dash that will come on if the gen
> > tray is unlocked. The digitel will also complain about it.
> >
> > I'd find out why you don't have one - previous owner modification is
> > my guess - and get it fixed. I'd imagine this is a critical safety
> > feature to keep the genset in the coach. You'd hate to lose the
> entire
> > unit into the back of a compact if you had to come to a quick stop
> and
> > the hydraulics decided not to hold it.
> >
> > -Ryan
> > '86 PT-40 8V92
> > Tri-Cities, WA
> >
>
Can Anyone Help??? Stuck with an extended generator... 84PT40!!!! - Scott Forman - 06-29-2007 13:04
Yes, for some reason that is beyond my understanding, the entire
assembly has been removed. I thought it odd that BB wouldn't have
put one on there, but figured they know more than me. With this
conversation, though, I can see where the release lever used to stick
out the front and where the bolts extended out the sides to secure it.
Ah...but never fear...shadetree engineering to the rescue. Went to
my local Lowes and bought two 3/4 X 3" clevis pins and pushed them
through the original holes from the inside. Engages the frame
perfectly and locks in with cotter pins. Tried to slide the tray
with the hydraulics, and it won't budge with those on there. So I
think I have solved the problem. Will be a bit less convenient to
pop those out than slide the original latch, but functional.
Scott
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...>
wrote:
>
> Scott,
>
> Starting to sound like a prior owner modification to remove the
> locking slider bar that I would not care for if it was mine. The
> small stop tabs at the back of the tray runners will not stop it
under
> a hard stop. Seems like a few years back, someone posted about
their
> genset tray sliding out and landing on the road in front of them
under
> a hard braking scenario. Oooops! Anyone else remember that post?
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX - nice and steamy right now.....
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I have the light, and it comes on when I extend the tray.
Strange.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Wright"
> >
> > >
> > > On 6/29/07, mbulriss <mbulriss@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Scott,
> > > >
> > > > I don't known the answer to that. I thought all the
early/mid
> > 80s
> > > > with hydraulic rams had the manual lock. Looks like I was
wrong
> > in
> > > > that assumption. Someone with another 86 will have to
address
> > your
> > > > question.
> > >
> > > Scott,
> > >
> > > '86 PT-40 here. I have a lock. Big black lever on the front. I
would
> > > expect you should have one, too. Do you have the corresponding
dash
> > > light?? I have a red light on the dash that will come on if the
gen
> > > tray is unlocked. The digitel will also complain about it.
> > >
> > > I'd find out why you don't have one - previous owner
modification is
> > > my guess - and get it fixed. I'd imagine this is a critical
safety
> > > feature to keep the genset in the coach. You'd hate to lose the
> > entire
> > > unit into the back of a compact if you had to come to a quick
stop
> > and
> > > the hydraulics decided not to hold it.
> > >
> > > -Ryan
> > > '86 PT-40 8V92
> > > Tri-Cities, WA
> > >
> >
>
Can Anyone Help??? Stuck with an extended generator... 84PT40!!!! - thomas_sorrentino - 06-29-2007 13:23
Scott,
Mine doesn't have a safety lock either (that I'm aware of), or a
light on the dash. My ram is electric, if that has anything to do
with it?
Tom Sorrentino
1987 PT38
Bedford Hills, NY
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@...>
wrote:
>
> Mike...my 86 PT38 doesn't have a manual lock bar. Should it? I
have
> wondered what the "safety" was if the ram failed...
>
> Scott Forman
> 86 PT38
> Memphis
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> wrote:
> >
> > You are most welcome Brian. Remember to keep a good eye on the
> genset
> > locking bar to make sure it stays solidly locked. You could even
> put
> > a bungee cord on it for extra peace of mind! If the genset slide
> bar
> > lock comes unlocked with the ram disconnected, there is nothing to
> > keep the genset tray from sliding out on a stop. NOT a good
> deal! ;^)
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > Soggy San Antonio, TX
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "t3brian"
wrote:
> > >
> > > OK.... I couldn't wait till the morning!
> > >
> > > I just did what you mentioned.... I did have to remove both
> pins...
> > > slide the RAM out of the way.. and presto! I slid the generator
> into
> > > position and it is locked and ready to go!
> > >
> > > again.... THANK YOU SO MUCH!
> > >
> > > I really have not been able to participate in this forum and
> > > contribute to it's content as I could have.... self
employeed ....
> > > family of 6 .... we are also foster parents.... and a
wanderlodge
> > > newbe.......
> > >
> > > I will make time in the future to return to this forum that in
> only a
> > > few interactions with my questions... had made such a positive
and
> > > supportive effect on our families well being!
> > >
> > > Thank You
> > >
> > > Brian!
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Brian,
> > > >
> > > > Sorry to hear about the funeral.
> > > >
> > > > Re the gen set hydraulic leak:
> > > > Been there, done that. The seal is blown. NO big deal.
> Adding more
> > > > fluid is pointless right now. To get going NOW, you just
need
> to
> > > > crawl under there and just pull the cotter key that holds in
> the pin
> > > > on the back of the genset hydraulic ram. Then pull the pin
and
> push
> > > > the genset tray back in by hand (You may have to lift the
> genset ram
> > > > up to clear the frame cross rail). When all the way in, lock
> the
> > > > handset bar in the front. Make very sure it is secure and
stays
> > > > locked! You're good to go now.
> > > >
> > > > When you get back, you will then need to replace the seals in
> the ram.
> > > > About a 20 minute job. To get the correct seals, unscrew
the
> clevis
> > > > end, on the end of the ram you disconnected and remove it.
Then
> > > > remove the cap on the end of the ram with a pair of water
pump
> pliers.
> > > > As I recall, there is a "wiper" seal in the cap and a
> hydraulic fluid
> > > > seal in the cap. Take them to a good hydraulic shop to match
> up the
> > > > replacements and reinstall them the way you took them out.
Put
> > > > everything back together and THEN add the hydraulic fluid
> (actually
> > > > Dexron ATF) to the reservoir under the steps. Cycle the
syetm a
> > > > couple of times and you will be done.
> > > >
> > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > > VERY wet San Antonio, TX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "t3brian"
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello.... I hope someone can help....
> > > > >
> > > > > 84 PT40 generator stuck open .... hydraulic leak from
piston
> that
> > > > > pushes & pulls the generator tray open & closed.... how...
or
> > where do
> > > > > I add hydraulic fluid so that I can get the generator to
> slide back
> > > > in???
> > > > >
> > > > > Many.... many much appreciated thanks in advance.... family
is
> > > > > supposed to be leaving town in the morning to attend a
> funeral....
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank You
> > > > > Brian
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Can Anyone Help??? Stuck with an extended generator... 84PT40!!!! - Scott Forman - 06-29-2007 13:33
I think mine is electric, too...maybe we are on to something?
Scott
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "thomas_sorrentino"
>
> Scott,
>
> Mine doesn't have a safety lock either (that I'm aware of), or a
> light on the dash. My ram is electric, if that has anything to do
> with it?
>
> Tom Sorrentino
> 1987 PT38
> Bedford Hills, NY
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Mike...my 86 PT38 doesn't have a manual lock bar. Should it? I
> have
> > wondered what the "safety" was if the ram failed...
> >
> > Scott Forman
> > 86 PT38
> > Memphis
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > You are most welcome Brian. Remember to keep a good eye on the
> > genset
> > > locking bar to make sure it stays solidly locked. You could
even
> > put
> > > a bungee cord on it for extra peace of mind! If the genset
slide
> > bar
> > > lock comes unlocked with the ram disconnected, there is nothing
to
> > > keep the genset tray from sliding out on a stop. NOT a good
> > deal! ;^)
> > >
> > > Mike Bulriss
> > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > Soggy San Antonio, TX
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "t3brian"
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > OK.... I couldn't wait till the morning!
> > > >
> > > > I just did what you mentioned.... I did have to remove both
> > pins...
> > > > slide the RAM out of the way.. and presto! I slid the
generator
> > into
> > > > position and it is locked and ready to go!
> > > >
> > > > again.... THANK YOU SO MUCH!
> > > >
> > > > I really have not been able to participate in this forum and
> > > > contribute to it's content as I could have.... self
> employeed ....
> > > > family of 6 .... we are also foster parents.... and a
> wanderlodge
> > > > newbe.......
> > > >
> > > > I will make time in the future to return to this forum that
in
> > only a
> > > > few interactions with my questions... had made such a
positive
> and
> > > > supportive effect on our families well being!
> > > >
> > > > Thank You
> > > >
> > > > Brian!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss"
<mbulriss@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry to hear about the funeral.
> > > > >
> > > > > Re the gen set hydraulic leak:
> > > > > Been there, done that. The seal is blown. NO big deal.
> > Adding more
> > > > > fluid is pointless right now. To get going NOW, you just
> need
> > to
> > > > > crawl under there and just pull the cotter key that holds
in
> > the pin
> > > > > on the back of the genset hydraulic ram. Then pull the pin
> and
> > push
> > > > > the genset tray back in by hand (You may have to lift the
> > genset ram
> > > > > up to clear the frame cross rail). When all the way in,
lock
> > the
> > > > > handset bar in the front. Make very sure it is secure and
> stays
> > > > > locked! You're good to go now.
> > > > >
> > > > > When you get back, you will then need to replace the seals
in
> > the ram.
> > > > > About a 20 minute job. To get the correct seals, unscrew
> the
> > clevis
> > > > > end, on the end of the ram you disconnected and remove it.
> Then
> > > > > remove the cap on the end of the ram with a pair of water
> pump
> > pliers.
> > > > > As I recall, there is a "wiper" seal in the cap and a
> > hydraulic fluid
> > > > > seal in the cap. Take them to a good hydraulic shop to
match
> > up the
> > > > > replacements and reinstall them the way you took them out.
> Put
> > > > > everything back together and THEN add the hydraulic fluid
> > (actually
> > > > > Dexron ATF) to the reservoir under the steps. Cycle the
> syetm a
> > > > > couple of times and you will be done.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > > > VERY wet San Antonio, TX
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "t3brian"
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello.... I hope someone can help....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 84 PT40 generator stuck open .... hydraulic leak from
> piston
> > that
> > > > > > pushes & pulls the generator tray open & closed....
how...
> or
> > > where do
> > > > > > I add hydraulic fluid so that I can get the generator to
> > slide back
> > > > > in???
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Many.... many much appreciated thanks in advance....
family
> is
> > > > > > supposed to be leaving town in the morning to attend a
> > funeral....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank You
> > > > > > Brian
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Can Anyone Help??? Stuck with an extended generator... 84PT40!!!! - Don Bradner - 06-29-2007 15:13
If "Electric" means what mine is (not hydraulic), I'm not sure why it would have
a latch. Mine doesn't.
On 6/30/2007 at 1:33 AM Scott Forman wrote:
>I think mine is electric, too...maybe we are on to something?
>
>Scott
Can Anyone Help??? Stuck with an extended generator... 84PT40!!!! - Pete Masterson - 06-29-2007 15:21
Might be ... I think mine's electric too. Open or close, when it
reaches the stop, it makes a 'click-click' noise. No safety latch. No
dash lights (that I noticed --since I've always opened/closed the
generator from the outside and have never looked at the dash when
it's been open).
On Jun 29, 2007, at 6:33 PM, Scott Forman wrote:
> I think mine is electric, too...maybe we are on to something?
>
> Scott
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "thomas_sorrentino"
>
>>
>> Scott,
>>
>> Mine doesn't have a safety lock either (that I'm aware of), or a
>> light on the dash. My ram is electric, if that has anything to do
>> with it?
>>
>> Tom Sorrentino
>> 1987 PT38
>> Bedford Hills, NY
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mike...my 86 PT38 doesn't have a manual lock bar. Should it? I
>> have
>>> wondered what the "safety" was if the ram failed...
>>>
>>> Scott Forman
>>> 86 PT38
>>> Memphis
>>>
>>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You are most welcome Brian. Remember to keep a good eye on the
>>> genset
>>>> locking bar to make sure it stays solidly locked. You could
> even
>>> put
>>>> a bungee cord on it for extra peace of mind! If the genset
> slide
>>> bar
>>>> lock comes unlocked with the ram disconnected, there is nothing
> to
>>>> keep the genset tray from sliding out on a stop. NOT a good
>>> deal! ;^)
>>>>
>>>> Mike Bulriss
>>>> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
>>>> Soggy San Antonio, TX
>>>>
>>>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "t3brian"
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> OK.... I couldn't wait till the morning!
>>>>>
>>>>> I just did what you mentioned.... I did have to remove both
>>> pins...
>>>>> slide the RAM out of the way.. and presto! I slid the
> generator
>>> into
>>>>> position and it is locked and ready to go!
>>>>>
>>>>> again.... THANK YOU SO MUCH!
>>>>>
>>>>> I really have not been able to participate in this forum and
>>>>> contribute to it's content as I could have.... self
>> employeed ....
>>>>> family of 6 .... we are also foster parents.... and a
>> wanderlodge
>>>>> newbe.......
>>>>>
>>>>> I will make time in the future to return to this forum that
> in
>>> only a
>>>>> few interactions with my questions... had made such a
> positive
>> and
>>>>> supportive effect on our families well being!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank You
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss"
> <mbulriss@>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry to hear about the funeral.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Re the gen set hydraulic leak:
>>>>>> Been there, done that. The seal is blown. NO big deal.
>>> Adding more
>>>>>> fluid is pointless right now. To get going NOW, you just
>> need
>>> to
>>>>>> crawl under there and just pull the cotter key that holds
> in
>>> the pin
>>>>>> on the back of the genset hydraulic ram. Then pull the pin
>> and
>>> push
>>>>>> the genset tray back in by hand (You may have to lift the
>>> genset ram
>>>>>> up to clear the frame cross rail). When all the way in,
> lock
>>> the
>>>>>> handset bar in the front. Make very sure it is secure and
>> stays
>>>>>> locked! You're good to go now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you get back, you will then need to replace the seals
> in
>>> the ram.
>>>>>> About a 20 minute job. To get the correct seals, unscrew
>> the
>>> clevis
>>>>>> end, on the end of the ram you disconnected and remove it.
>> Then
>>>>>> remove the cap on the end of the ram with a pair of water
>> pump
>>> pliers.
>>>>>> As I recall, there is a "wiper" seal in the cap and a
>>> hydraulic fluid
>>>>>> seal in the cap. Take them to a good hydraulic shop to
> match
>>> up the
>>>>>> replacements and reinstall them the way you took them out.
>> Put
>>>>>> everything back together and THEN add the hydraulic fluid
>>> (actually
>>>>>> Dexron ATF) to the reservoir under the steps. Cycle the
>> syetm a
>>>>>> couple of times and you will be done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike Bulriss
>>>>>> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
>>>>>> VERY wet San Antonio, TX
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "t3brian"
>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello.... I hope someone can help....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 84 PT40 generator stuck open .... hydraulic leak from
>> piston
>>> that
>>>>>>> pushes & pulls the generator tray open & closed....
> how...
>> or
>>>> where do
>>>>>>> I add hydraulic fluid so that I can get the generator to
>>> slide back
>>>>>> in???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many.... many much appreciated thanks in advance....
> family
>> is
>>>>>>> supposed to be leaving town in the morning to attend a
>>> funeral....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank You
>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Can Anyone Help??? Stuck with an extended generator... 84PT40!!!! - Scott Forman - 06-30-2007 01:44
That sounds like mine.
Scott
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> Might be ... I think mine's electric too. Open or close, when it
> reaches the stop, it makes a 'click-click' noise. No safety latch.
No
> dash lights (that I noticed --since I've always opened/closed the
> generator from the outside and have never looked at the dash when
> it's been open).
>
> On Jun 29, 2007, at 6:33 PM, Scott Forman wrote:
>
> > I think mine is electric, too...maybe we are on to something?
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "thomas_sorrentino"
> >
> >>
> >> Scott,
> >>
> >> Mine doesn't have a safety lock either (that I'm aware of), or a
> >> light on the dash. My ram is electric, if that has anything to do
> >> with it?
> >>
> >> Tom Sorrentino
> >> 1987 PT38
> >> Bedford Hills, NY
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman"
<sforman@>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Mike...my 86 PT38 doesn't have a manual lock bar. Should it? I
> >> have
> >>> wondered what the "safety" was if the ram failed...
> >>>
> >>> Scott Forman
> >>> 86 PT38
> >>> Memphis
> >>>
> >>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> You are most welcome Brian. Remember to keep a good eye on the
> >>> genset
> >>>> locking bar to make sure it stays solidly locked. You could
> > even
> >>> put
> >>>> a bungee cord on it for extra peace of mind! If the genset
> > slide
> >>> bar
> >>>> lock comes unlocked with the ram disconnected, there is nothing
> > to
> >>>> keep the genset tray from sliding out on a stop. NOT a good
> >>> deal! ;^)
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike Bulriss
> >>>> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> >>>> Soggy San Antonio, TX
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "t3brian"
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> OK.... I couldn't wait till the morning!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I just did what you mentioned.... I did have to remove both
> >>> pins...
> >>>>> slide the RAM out of the way.. and presto! I slid the
> > generator
> >>> into
> >>>>> position and it is locked and ready to go!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> again.... THANK YOU SO MUCH!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I really have not been able to participate in this forum and
> >>>>> contribute to it's content as I could have.... self
> >> employeed ....
> >>>>> family of 6 .... we are also foster parents.... and a
> >> wanderlodge
> >>>>> newbe.......
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I will make time in the future to return to this forum that
> > in
> >>> only a
> >>>>> few interactions with my questions... had made such a
> > positive
> >> and
> >>>>> supportive effect on our families well being!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank You
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Brian!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss"
> > <mbulriss@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Brian,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sorry to hear about the funeral.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Re the gen set hydraulic leak:
> >>>>>> Been there, done that. The seal is blown. NO big deal.
> >>> Adding more
> >>>>>> fluid is pointless right now. To get going NOW, you just
> >> need
> >>> to
> >>>>>> crawl under there and just pull the cotter key that holds
> > in
> >>> the pin
> >>>>>> on the back of the genset hydraulic ram. Then pull the pin
> >> and
> >>> push
> >>>>>> the genset tray back in by hand (You may have to lift the
> >>> genset ram
> >>>>>> up to clear the frame cross rail). When all the way in,
> > lock
> >>> the
> >>>>>> handset bar in the front. Make very sure it is secure and
> >> stays
> >>>>>> locked! You're good to go now.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> When you get back, you will then need to replace the seals
> > in
> >>> the ram.
> >>>>>> About a 20 minute job. To get the correct seals, unscrew
> >> the
> >>> clevis
> >>>>>> end, on the end of the ram you disconnected and remove it.
> >> Then
> >>>>>> remove the cap on the end of the ram with a pair of water
> >> pump
> >>> pliers.
> >>>>>> As I recall, there is a "wiper" seal in the cap and a
> >>> hydraulic fluid
> >>>>>> seal in the cap. Take them to a good hydraulic shop to
> > match
> >>> up the
> >>>>>> replacements and reinstall them the way you took them out.
> >> Put
> >>>>>> everything back together and THEN add the hydraulic fluid
> >>> (actually
> >>>>>> Dexron ATF) to the reservoir under the steps. Cycle the
> >> syetm a
> >>>>>> couple of times and you will be done.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mike Bulriss
> >>>>>> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> >>>>>> VERY wet San Antonio, TX
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "t3brian"
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello.... I hope someone can help....
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 84 PT40 generator stuck open .... hydraulic leak from
> >> piston
> >>> that
> >>>>>>> pushes & pulls the generator tray open & closed....
> > how...
> >> or
> >>>> where do
> >>>>>>> I add hydraulic fluid so that I can get the generator to
> >>> slide back
> >>>>>> in???
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Many.... many much appreciated thanks in advance....
> > family
> >> is
> >>>>>>> supposed to be leaving town in the morning to attend a
> >>> funeral....
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thank You
> >>>>>>> Brian
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
Can Anyone Help??? Stuck with an extended generator... 84PT40!!!! - truitt44@...> - 06-30-2007 02:49
Scott,
Thomas Eastham in Texas that is parting out a BB might have what you need.
Howard T., Ga., 86 PT40
>
> From: "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...>
> Date: 2007/06/29 Fri PM 06:54:55 EDT
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Can Anyone Help??? Stuck with an extended
generator... 84PT40!!!!
>
> Scott,
>
> Starting to sound like a prior owner modification to remove the
> locking slider bar that I would not care for if it was mine. The
> small stop tabs at the back of the tray runners will not stop it under
> a hard stop. Seems like a few years back, someone posted about their
> genset tray sliding out and landing on the road in front of them under
> a hard braking scenario. Oooops! Anyone else remember that post?
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX - nice and steamy right now.....
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I have the light, and it comes on when I extend the tray. Strange.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Wright"
> >
> > >
> > > On 6/29/07, mbulriss <mbulriss@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Scott,
> > > >
> > > > I don't known the answer to that. I thought all the early/mid
> > 80s
> > > > with hydraulic rams had the manual lock. Looks like I was wrong
> > in
> > > > that assumption. Someone with another 86 will have to address
> > your
> > > > question.
> > >
> > > Scott,
> > >
> > > '86 PT-40 here. I have a lock. Big black lever on the front. I would
> > > expect you should have one, too. Do you have the corresponding dash
> > > light?? I have a red light on the dash that will come on if the gen
> > > tray is unlocked. The digitel will also complain about it.
> > >
> > > I'd find out why you don't have one - previous owner modification is
> > > my guess - and get it fixed. I'd imagine this is a critical safety
> > > feature to keep the genset in the coach. You'd hate to lose the
> > entire
> > > unit into the back of a compact if you had to come to a quick stop
> > and
> > > the hydraulics decided not to hold it.
> > >
> > > -Ryan
> > > '86 PT-40 8V92
> > > Tri-Cities, WA
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
Can Anyone Help??? Stuck with an extended generator... 84PT40!!!! - truitt44@...> - 06-30-2007 02:54
Scott,
Mine is electric
Howard T. 86 PT40
>
> From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@...>
> Date: 2007/06/30 Sat AM 09:44:38 EDT
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Can Anyone Help??? Stuck with an extended
generator... 84PT40!!!!
>
> That sounds like mine.
>
> Scott
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
> wrote:
> >
> > Might be ... I think mine's electric too. Open or close, when it
> > reaches the stop, it makes a 'click-click' noise. No safety latch.
> No
> > dash lights (that I noticed --since I've always opened/closed the
> > generator from the outside and have never looked at the dash when
> > it's been open).
> >
> > On Jun 29, 2007, at 6:33 PM, Scott Forman wrote:
> >
> > > I think mine is electric, too...maybe we are on to something?
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "thomas_sorrentino"
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Scott,
> > >>
> > >> Mine doesn't have a safety lock either (that I'm aware of), or a
> > >> light on the dash. My ram is electric, if that has anything to do
> > >> with it?
> > >>
> > >> Tom Sorrentino
> > >> 1987 PT38
> > >> Bedford Hills, NY
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman"
> <sforman@>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Mike...my 86 PT38 doesn't have a manual lock bar. Should it? I
> > >> have
> > >>> wondered what the "safety" was if the ram failed...
> > >>>
> > >>> Scott Forman
> > >>> 86 PT38
> > >>> Memphis
> > >>>
> > >>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You are most welcome Brian. Remember to keep a good eye on the
> > >>> genset
> > >>>> locking bar to make sure it stays solidly locked. You could
> > > even
> > >>> put
> > >>>> a bungee cord on it for extra peace of mind! If the genset
> > > slide
> > >>> bar
> > >>>> lock comes unlocked with the ram disconnected, there is nothing
> > > to
> > >>>> keep the genset tray from sliding out on a stop. NOT a good
> > >>> deal! ;^)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Mike Bulriss
> > >>>> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > >>>> Soggy San Antonio, TX
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "t3brian"
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> OK.... I couldn't wait till the morning!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I just did what you mentioned.... I did have to remove both
> > >>> pins...
> > >>>>> slide the RAM out of the way.. and presto! I slid the
> > > generator
> > >>> into
> > >>>>> position and it is locked and ready to go!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> again.... THANK YOU SO MUCH!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I really have not been able to participate in this forum and
> > >>>>> contribute to it's content as I could have.... self
> > >> employeed ....
> > >>>>> family of 6 .... we are also foster parents.... and a
> > >> wanderlodge
> > >>>>> newbe.......
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I will make time in the future to return to this forum that
> > > in
> > >>> only a
> > >>>>> few interactions with my questions... had made such a
> > > positive
> > >> and
> > >>>>> supportive effect on our families well being!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thank You
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Brian!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss"
> > > <mbulriss@>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Brian,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Sorry to hear about the funeral.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Re the gen set hydraulic leak:
> > >>>>>> Been there, done that. The seal is blown. NO big deal.
> > >>> Adding more
> > >>>>>> fluid is pointless right now. To get going NOW, you just
> > >> need
> > >>> to
> > >>>>>> crawl under there and just pull the cotter key that holds
> > > in
> > >>> the pin
> > >>>>>> on the back of the genset hydraulic ram. Then pull the pin
> > >> and
> > >>> push
> > >>>>>> the genset tray back in by hand (You may have to lift the
> > >>> genset ram
> > >>>>>> up to clear the frame cross rail). When all the way in,
> > > lock
> > >>> the
> > >>>>>> handset bar in the front. Make very sure it is secure and
> > >> stays
> > >>>>>> locked! You're good to go now.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> When you get back, you will then need to replace the seals
> > > in
> > >>> the ram.
> > >>>>>> About a 20 minute job. To get the correct seals, unscrew
> > >> the
> > >>> clevis
> > >>>>>> end, on the end of the ram you disconnected and remove it.
> > >> Then
> > >>>>>> remove the cap on the end of the ram with a pair of water
> > >> pump
> > >>> pliers.
> > >>>>>> As I recall, there is a "wiper" seal in the cap and a
> > >>> hydraulic fluid
> > >>>>>> seal in the cap. Take them to a good hydraulic shop to
> > > match
> > >>> up the
> > >>>>>> replacements and reinstall them the way you took them out.
> > >> Put
> > >>>>>> everything back together and THEN add the hydraulic fluid
> > >>> (actually
> > >>>>>> Dexron ATF) to the reservoir under the steps. Cycle the
> > >> syetm a
> > >>>>>> couple of times and you will be done.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Mike Bulriss
> > >>>>>> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > >>>>>> VERY wet San Antonio, TX
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "t3brian"
> > >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hello.... I hope someone can help....
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 84 PT40 generator stuck open .... hydraulic leak from
> > >> piston
> > >>> that
> > >>>>>>> pushes & pulls the generator tray open & closed....
> > > how...
> > >> or
> > >>>> where do
> > >>>>>>> I add hydraulic fluid so that I can get the generator to
> > >>> slide back
> > >>>>>> in???
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Many.... many much appreciated thanks in advance....
> > > family
> > >> is
> > >>>>>>> supposed to be leaving town in the morning to attend a
> > >>> funeral....
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thank You
> > >>>>>>> Brian
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>