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Troubleshooting Bendix Fast Idle/Cruise Control on 89 35FC 3208 ATAAC - Scott Forman - 10-15-2007 10:09
No,tach is fine
Scott
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Howard O. Truitt"
>
> Scott,
> My Tachometer went out last week on a trip and my CC quit at the
same time. The CC must work off the Tach. Are you having trouble with
your Tach.
> Howard T., Sowega, 86 PT40
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Forman
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 2:00 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Troubleshooting Bendix Fast
Idle/Cruise Control on 89 35FC 3208 ATAAC
>
>
> Is fast idle on all models handled through the CC? My fast idle
> switch works fine, but my CC is inop on the road.
>
> Scott Forman
> 86 PT38
> Memphis
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Gideon"
>
> >
> > I need help understanding how to set the fast idle speed using
the
> > cruise control on my 89 35FC 3208ATAAC. With engine idling at
650
> > rpm and Cruise Control switch turned On, depressing the SET
seems to
> > have no effect on the rpms; however when the RESUME switch is
> > depressed, the rpm immediately increases to 3000. I quickly
turn the
> > Cruise Control switch to OFF and the rpms reduce to 650 or 700
> range.
> >
> > I've owned this coach just over 1 year and fixing this idle
speed
> > thing is now reached the top of the "To Do" list.
> >
> > The Cruise Control does seem to operate, but not smoothly; if
set at
> > 55 mph for instance, when speed drops to 55 the throttle opens
FULLY
> > and Turbo Boost goes to 8 or 10 psi or so depending on the
terrain
> > and then vehicle speed goes slightly past the Set speed of 55
mph at
> > which the time the throttle seems to fully close. Behaves as
though
> > throttle is either fully open or fully closed...no in between.
> > Another serious thing...it appears that touching the brake does
not
> > disengage the Cruise Control; the Cruise Control can be
disengaged
> > by turning the CC switch to OFF.
> >
> > Because of the above issues I do not have a functional Cruise
> Control
> > and feel it's unsafe to engage on most highways and when I do
use it
> > the fuel economy suffers because of the jerky responce.
> >
> > Would very much like to get the obsolete Bendix back
operational if
> > there is and easy fix; faulty ground? poor connections? bad ECM?
> >
> > Please share your experiences with me and other on this board.
> > Perhaps its time to invest in a KING Cruise or Rostra?
> >
> > Dick Gideon
> > Freedom Bird
> > 1989 35FCSB
> > Rolla, MO
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Troubleshooting Bendix Fast Idle/Cruise Control on 89 35FC 3208 ATAAC - Curt Sprenger - 10-15-2007 10:20
Dick,
FYI in case you need a CC-5 unit. The CC-5 unit is no longer manufactured. A
couple of us just purchased CC-5 potentiometer units through Brake & Clutch
Supply, Seattle, Washington. Talk to Spark. I bought one for possible
future need. Dick Hayden bought one because his CC was not working.
On 10/15/07, Richard Gideon
>
> Thanks for the reply Ralph: Early this morning I got into my "blue
> box" and retrieved the booklet describing the operation and
> troubleshooting the Bendix Cruise Control System (SD-10-1)and on page
> 15 of the booklet I found the symptoms, cause & remedy for what
> appears to be ailing the CC on my FC.
>
> V. Cruise Control System oscillates above and below the speed
> setting. Will not hold a specific speed setting within plus or minus
> 1 mph on level highway.
>
> Cause, CC-5 potentiometer or its wiring is defective.
>
> Remedy. Visually inspect for broken or obviously damaged wiring to
> the CC-5 potentiometer (Figure 13). Disconnect wiring connector 3 in
> Figure 13 and check the resistance between the sockets shown:
>
> 1 and 3 3600-4400 ohms
> 2 and 3 1080-1320 ohms
> 1 and 2 4320-5280 ohms
>
> If these readings are not obtained, replace the CC-5 potentiometer.
>
> I'll post later this week, with the results of my testing. Thanks
> for the guidance...I"ll dig out my digital volt/ohmeter.
>
> Dick Gideon
> Freedom Bird
> 1989 35FCSB
> Rolla, MO
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
>
> >
> > PT cruise/air throttle/high idle
> >
> > Some time back, I posted to the files section, a couple of files
> on how
> > these systems work and inter act.
> >
> > As for the FC's it is a little difference because the factory <BB>
> dip
> > switch settings allowed the fc cruise controls to work slightly
> different
> > than the PT's.
> >
> > As for the problem in the FC, where it is on or off and no in
> between, I
> > would suspect the CC5 potentiometer internal of the cylinder to be
> faulty.
> > All this can be checked with a decent Multimeter and following the
> checks
> > in the Bendix manual that should be in the blue box.
> >
> > The only thing I have found that was done a little funky form the
> factory,
> > is how the clutch switch was wired up since there are no clutches
> in the
> > Birds and that was done with 2 solenoids in the system. I have
> actually
> > taken those out of the system to get my cruise working properly and
> that
> > was done with a pair of side cutters!
> cruise.
> > Now the problem with the break pedal not canceling the cruise is or
> has
> > generally been a bad set switch or corroded contacts in a
> connector. And
> > can usually be cleared up by cleaning the pin contacts coming from
> the
> > Bendix control.
> >
> > Remember that our Coaches put out 120 to 130 psi of air and there
> is a
> > regulator with the bendix set up to drop that pressure to 80 to 90
> psi,
> > thereby making the working difference of only a few psi
> differential that
> > the electronics of the bendix system reads and enacts on.
> >
> > >
> >
> > Safe travels,
> >
> > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > 84FC35
> > Duncan, Oklahoma
> >
>
>
>
--
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Troubleshooting Bendix Fast Idle/Cruise Control on 89 35FC 3208 ATAAC - Richard Gideon - 10-15-2007 11:54
Curt: Thanks for the info...I'll most likely need to replace mine.
Dick Gideon
Freedom Bird
1989 35FCSB
Rolla, MO
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
>
> Dick,
>
> FYI in case you need a CC-5 unit. The CC-5 unit is no longer
manufactured. A
> couple of us just purchased CC-5 potentiometer units through Brake
& Clutch
> Supply, Seattle, Washington. Talk to Spark. I bought one for
possible
> future need. Dick Hayden bought one because his CC was not working.
>
>
> On 10/15/07, Richard Gideon
> >
> > Thanks for the reply Ralph: Early this morning I got into
my "blue
> > box" and retrieved the booklet describing the operation and
> > troubleshooting the Bendix Cruise Control System (SD-10-1)and on
page
> > 15 of the booklet I found the symptoms, cause & remedy for what
> > appears to be ailing the CC on my FC.
> >
> > V. Cruise Control System oscillates above and below the speed
> > setting. Will not hold a specific speed setting within plus or
minus
> > 1 mph on level highway.
> >
> > Cause, CC-5 potentiometer or its wiring is defective.
> >
> > Remedy. Visually inspect for broken or obviously damaged wiring to
> > the CC-5 potentiometer (Figure 13). Disconnect wiring connector 3
in
> > Figure 13 and check the resistance between the sockets shown:
> >
> > 1 and 3 3600-4400 ohms
> > 2 and 3 1080-1320 ohms
> > 1 and 2 4320-5280 ohms
> >
> > If these readings are not obtained, replace the CC-5
potentiometer.
> >
> > I'll post later this week, with the results of my testing. Thanks
> > for the guidance...I"ll dig out my digital volt/ohmeter.
> >
> > Dick Gideon
> > Freedom Bird
> > 1989 35FCSB
> > Rolla, MO
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
> >
> > >
> > > PT cruise/air throttle/high idle
> > >
> > > Some time back, I posted to the files section, a couple of files
> > on how
> > > these systems work and inter act.
> > >
> > > As for the FC's it is a little difference because the factory
<BB>
> > dip
> > > switch settings allowed the fc cruise controls to work slightly
> > different
> > > than the PT's.
> > >
> > > As for the problem in the FC, where it is on or off and no in
> > between, I
> > > would suspect the CC5 potentiometer internal of the cylinder to
be
> > faulty.
> > > All this can be checked with a decent Multimeter and following
the
> > checks
> > > in the Bendix manual that should be in the blue box.
> > >
> > > The only thing I have found that was done a little funky form
the
> > factory,
> > > is how the clutch switch was wired up since there are no
clutches
> > in the
> > > Birds and that was done with 2 solenoids in the system. I have
> > actually
> > > taken those out of the system to get my cruise working properly
and
> > that
> > > was done with a pair of side cutters!
have
> > cruise.
> > > Now the problem with the break pedal not canceling the cruise
is or
> > has
> > > generally been a bad set switch or corroded contacts in a
> > connector. And
> > > can usually be cleared up by cleaning the pin contacts coming
from
> > the
> > > Bendix control.
> > >
> > > Remember that our Coaches put out 120 to 130 psi of air and
there
> > is a
> > > regulator with the bendix set up to drop that pressure to 80 to
90
> > psi,
> > > thereby making the working difference of only a few psi
> > differential that
> > > the electronics of the bendix system reads and enacts on.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Safe travels,
> > >
> > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > > 84FC35
> > > Duncan, Oklahoma
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Troubleshooting Bendix Fast Idle/Cruise Control on 89 35FC 3208 ATAAC - Richard Hayden - 10-15-2007 17:04
Still is not working even with the new CC-5. I'll look into it later after
we've settled at the winter quarters. Leaving tomorrow morning.
Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: Curt Sprenger
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Troubleshooting Bendix Fast Idle/Cruise
Control on 89 35FC 3208 ATAAC
Dick,
FYI in case you need a CC-5 unit. The CC-5 unit is no longer manufactured. A
couple of us just purchased CC-5 potentiometer units through Brake & Clutch
Supply, Seattle, Washington. Talk to Spark. I bought one for possible
future need. Dick Hayden bought one because his CC was not working.
On 10/15/07, Richard Gideon
wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reply Ralph: Early this morning I got into my "blue
> box" and retrieved the booklet describing the operation and
> troubleshooting the Bendix Cruise Control System (SD-10-1)and on page
> 15 of the booklet I found the symptoms, cause & remedy for what
> appears to be ailing the CC on my FC.
>
> V. Cruise Control System oscillates above and below the speed
> setting. Will not hold a specific speed setting within plus or minus
> 1 mph on level highway.
>
> Cause, CC-5 potentiometer or its wiring is defective.
>
> Remedy. Visually inspect for broken or obviously damaged wiring to
> the CC-5 potentiometer (Figure 13). Disconnect wiring connector 3 in
> Figure 13 and check the resistance between the sockets shown:
>
> 1 and 3 3600-4400 ohms
> 2 and 3 1080-1320 ohms
> 1 and 2 4320-5280 ohms
>
> If these readings are not obtained, replace the CC-5 potentiometer.
>
> I'll post later this week, with the results of my testing. Thanks
> for the guidance...I"ll dig out my digital volt/ohmeter.
>
> Dick Gideon
> Freedom Bird
> 1989 35FCSB
> Rolla, MO
>
> --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
>
> >
> > PT cruise/air throttle/high idle
> >
> > Some time back, I posted to the files section, a couple of files
> on how
> > these systems work and inter act.
> >
> > As for the FC's it is a little difference because the factory <BB>
> dip
> > switch settings allowed the fc cruise controls to work slightly
> different
> > than the PT's.
> >
> > As for the problem in the FC, where it is on or off and no in
> between, I
> > would suspect the CC5 potentiometer internal of the cylinder to be
> faulty.
> > All this can be checked with a decent Multimeter and following the
> checks
> > in the Bendix manual that should be in the blue box.
> >
> > The only thing I have found that was done a little funky form the
> factory,
> > is how the clutch switch was wired up since there are no clutches
> in the
> > Birds and that was done with 2 solenoids in the system. I have
> actually
> > taken those out of the system to get my cruise working properly and
> that
> > was done with a pair of side cutters!
> cruise.
> > Now the problem with the break pedal not canceling the cruise is or
> has
> > generally been a bad set switch or corroded contacts in a
> connector. And
> > can usually be cleared up by cleaning the pin contacts coming from
> the
> > Bendix control.
> >
> > Remember that our Coaches put out 120 to 130 psi of air and there
> is a
> > regulator with the bendix set up to drop that pressure to 80 to 90
> psi,
> > thereby making the working difference of only a few psi
> differential that
> > the electronics of the bendix system reads and enacts on.
> >
> > >
> >
> > Safe travels,
> >
> > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > 84FC35
> > Duncan, Oklahoma
> >
>
>
>
--
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Troubleshooting Bendix Fast Idle/Cruise Control on 89 35FC 3208 ATAAC - dlefty12 - 10-16-2007 15:48
Have you checked your speedometer gear inside the rear wheel? My
cruise control stopped working intermittently and then finally wouldn't
work at all. My fast idle would work fine. But somewhere along the
line my speedometer stopped working. As it turned out it was the
speedometer gear needed replacing. Everything works fine now...
Dan Leftwich
1987 FC35 Lincolndale NY
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hayden"
>
> Still is not working even with the new CC-5. I'll look into it later
after we've settled at the winter quarters. Leaving tomorrow morning.
>
> Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
Troubleshooting Bendix Fast Idle/Cruise Control on 89 35FC 3208 ATAAC - thomas_sorrentino - 10-17-2007 01:04
Hey Dan,
Lincolndale, NY! We're practically neighbors! Contact me sometime, we
can compare notes on where we get work done and NYS ins. etc... I
think our dashes and interiors are very similair also!
Tom Sorrentino
1987 PT38
Bedford Hills, NY
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "dlefty12"
wrote:
>
> Have you checked your speedometer gear inside the rear wheel? My
> cruise control stopped working intermittently and then finally
wouldn't
> work at all. My fast idle would work fine. But somewhere along the
> line my speedometer stopped working. As it turned out it was the
> speedometer gear needed replacing. Everything works fine now...
>
> Dan Leftwich
> 1987 FC35 Lincolndale NY
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hayden"
>
> >
> > Still is not working even with the new CC-5. I'll look into it
later
> after we've settled at the winter quarters. Leaving tomorrow
morning.
> >
> > Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
>
Troubleshooting Bendix Fast Idle/Cruise Control on 89 35FC 3208 ATAAC - Richard Hayden - 10-17-2007 01:24
I could be wrong but, I don't think that is part of my system. At least
according to the Bendix manual. Mine has a sensor on the tranny that seemed to
be ok but I'm not sure since that is the last I haven't checked completely. I
will need to jack both rear drivers off the ground to check it properly. That's
not easy while I'm on the road.
Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Over nighting at Camping World in Wilsonville, Or.
----- Original Message -----
From: dlefty12
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:48 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Troubleshooting Bendix Fast Idle/Cruise
Control on 89 35FC 3208 ATAAC
Have you checked your speedometer gear inside the rear wheel? My
cruise control stopped working intermittently and then finally wouldn't
work at all. My fast idle would work fine. But somewhere along the
line my speedometer stopped working. As it turned out it was the
speedometer gear needed replacing. Everything works fine now...
Dan Leftwich
1987 FC35 Lincolndale NY
--- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
"Richard Hayden"
>
> Still is not working even with the new CC-5. I'll look into it later
after we've settled at the winter quarters. Leaving tomorrow morning.
>
> Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Troubleshooting Bendix Fast Idle/Cruise Control on 89 35FC 3208 ATAAC - Richard Gideon - 01-11-2008 00:34
My multimeter testing indicated the potentiometer to be faulty or at
least out of tolernce. I tested with the 'pot' still on the coach
and now am traveling in South Texas and will replace pot in April
after this trip. Parts man named Spark at Seattle Clutch & Brake
fixed me up with a new Bendix pot and spring assembly P/N 101951N.
The CC works poorly but is still useful to allow me to keep my coach
speed above the set speed (cruise control helps pull the injector
pump to 'WOT' wide open throttle.
The high idle still behaves same as when I first bought the FC back
in Sept 2006, i.e. goes to 3000 rpm immediately when pressing the
resume switch on the CC panel.
Dick Gideon
1989 35 FC
On the road, Canyon Lake, Texas
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hayden"
>
> Still is not working even with the new CC-5. I'll look into it
later after we've settled at the winter quarters. Leaving tomorrow
morning.
>
> Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Curt Sprenger
> To:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 3:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Troubleshooting Bendix Fast
Idle/Cruise Control on 89 35FC 3208 ATAAC
>
>
> Dick,
>
> FYI in case you need a CC-5 unit. The CC-5 unit is no longer
manufactured. A
> couple of us just purchased CC-5 potentiometer units through
Brake & Clutch
> Supply, Seattle, Washington. Talk to Spark. I bought one for
possible
> future need. Dick Hayden bought one because his CC was not
working.
>
> On 10/15/07, Richard Gideon
wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the reply Ralph: Early this morning I got into
my "blue
> > box" and retrieved the booklet describing the operation and
> > troubleshooting the Bendix Cruise Control System (SD-10-1)and
on page
> > 15 of the booklet I found the symptoms, cause & remedy for what
> > appears to be ailing the CC on my FC.
> >
> > V. Cruise Control System oscillates above and below the speed
> > setting. Will not hold a specific speed setting within plus or
minus
> > 1 mph on level highway.
> >
> > Cause, CC-5 potentiometer or its wiring is defective.
> >
> > Remedy. Visually inspect for broken or obviously damaged wiring
to
> > the CC-5 potentiometer (Figure 13). Disconnect wiring connector
3 in
> > Figure 13 and check the resistance between the sockets shown:
> >
> > 1 and 3 3600-4400 ohms
> > 2 and 3 1080-1320 ohms
> > 1 and 2 4320-5280 ohms
> >
> > If these readings are not obtained, replace the CC-5
potentiometer.
> >
> > I'll post later this week, with the results of my testing.
Thanks
> > for the guidance...I"ll dig out my digital volt/ohmeter.
> >
> > Dick Gideon
> > Freedom Bird
> > 1989 35FCSB
> > Rolla, MO
> >
> > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
> >
> > >
> > > PT cruise/air throttle/high idle
> > >
> > > Some time back, I posted to the files section, a couple of
files
> > on how
> > > these systems work and inter act.
> > >
> > > As for the FC's it is a little difference because the factory
<BB>
> > dip
> > > switch settings allowed the fc cruise controls to work
slightly
> > different
> > > than the PT's.
> > >
> > > As for the problem in the FC, where it is on or off and no in
> > between, I
> > > would suspect the CC5 potentiometer internal of the cylinder
to be
> > faulty.
> > > All this can be checked with a decent Multimeter and
following the
> > checks
> > > in the Bendix manual that should be in the blue box.
> > >
> > > The only thing I have found that was done a little funky form
the
> > factory,
> > > is how the clutch switch was wired up since there are no
clutches
> > in the
> > > Birds and that was done with 2 solenoids in the system. I have
> > actually
> > > taken those out of the system to get my cruise working
properly and
> > that
> > > was done with a pair of side cutters!
have
> > cruise.
> > > Now the problem with the break pedal not canceling the cruise
is or
> > has
> > > generally been a bad set switch or corroded contacts in a
> > connector. And
> > > can usually be cleared up by cleaning the pin contacts coming
from
> > the
> > > Bendix control.
> > >
> > > Remember that our Coaches put out 120 to 130 psi of air and
there
> > is a
> > > regulator with the bendix set up to drop that pressure to 80
to 90
> > psi,
> > > thereby making the working difference of only a few psi
> > differential that
> > > the electronics of the bendix system reads and enacts on.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Safe travels,
> > >
> > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > > 84FC35
> > > Duncan, Oklahoma
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Troubleshooting Bendix Fast Idle/Cruise Control on 89 35FC 3208 ATAAC - pattypape - 01-11-2008 01:55
Dick,
Thanks, I appreciate the update on your progress.
I have an intermittent high idle issue, Sometimes it works fine,
Other times the 3208 revs up and I quickly hit the off button.
Our cruise works great, So I am interested in your final outcome.
Thanks Again,
Bill 88 FC Michigan
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Gideon"
>
> My multimeter testing indicated the potentiometer to be faulty or
at
> least out of tolernce. I tested with the 'pot' still on the coach
> and now am traveling in South Texas and will replace pot in April
> after this trip. Parts man named Spark at Seattle Clutch & Brake
> fixed me up with a new Bendix pot and spring assembly P/N 101951N.
>
> The CC works poorly but is still useful to allow me to keep my
coach
> speed above the set speed (cruise control helps pull the injector
> pump to 'WOT' wide open throttle.
>
> The high idle still behaves same as when I first bought the FC back
> in Sept 2006, i.e. goes to 3000 rpm immediately when pressing the
> resume switch on the CC panel.
>
> Dick Gideon
> 1989 35 FC
> On the road, Canyon Lake, Texas
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hayden"
>
> >
> > Still is not working even with the new CC-5. I'll look into it
> later after we've settled at the winter quarters. Leaving tomorrow
> morning.
> >
> > Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Curt Sprenger
> > To:
> WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 3:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Troubleshooting Bendix Fast
> Idle/Cruise Control on 89 35FC 3208 ATAAC
> >
> >
> > Dick,
> >
> > FYI in case you need a CC-5 unit. The CC-5 unit is no longer
> manufactured. A
> > couple of us just purchased CC-5 potentiometer units through
> Brake & Clutch
> > Supply, Seattle, Washington. Talk to Spark. I bought one for
> possible
> > future need. Dick Hayden bought one because his CC was not
> working.
> >
> > On 10/15/07, Richard Gideon
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply Ralph: Early this morning I got into
> my "blue
> > > box" and retrieved the booklet describing the operation and
> > > troubleshooting the Bendix Cruise Control System (SD-10-1)and
> on page
> > > 15 of the booklet I found the symptoms, cause & remedy for
what
> > > appears to be ailing the CC on my FC.
> > >
> > > V. Cruise Control System oscillates above and below the speed
> > > setting. Will not hold a specific speed setting within plus
or
> minus
> > > 1 mph on level highway.
> > >
> > > Cause, CC-5 potentiometer or its wiring is defective.
> > >
> > > Remedy. Visually inspect for broken or obviously damaged
wiring
> to
> > > the CC-5 potentiometer (Figure 13). Disconnect wiring
connector
> 3 in
> > > Figure 13 and check the resistance between the sockets shown:
> > >
> > > 1 and 3 3600-4400 ohms
> > > 2 and 3 1080-1320 ohms
> > > 1 and 2 4320-5280 ohms
> > >
> > > If these readings are not obtained, replace the CC-5
> potentiometer.
> > >
> > > I'll post later this week, with the results of my testing.
> Thanks
> > > for the guidance...I"ll dig out my digital volt/ohmeter.
> > >
> > > Dick Gideon
> > > Freedom Bird
> > > 1989 35FCSB
> > > Rolla, MO
> > >
> > > --- In
> WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
> > >
> > > >
> > > > PT cruise/air throttle/high idle
> > > >
> > > > Some time back, I posted to the files section, a couple of
> files
> > > on how
> > > > these systems work and inter act.
> > > >
> > > > As for the FC's it is a little difference because the
factory
> <BB>
> > > dip
> > > > switch settings allowed the fc cruise controls to work
> slightly
> > > different
> > > > than the PT's.
> > > >
> > > > As for the problem in the FC, where it is on or off and no
in
> > > between, I
> > > > would suspect the CC5 potentiometer internal of the
cylinder
> to be
> > > faulty.
> > > > All this can be checked with a decent Multimeter and
> following the
> > > checks
> > > > in the Bendix manual that should be in the blue box.
> > > >
> > > > The only thing I have found that was done a little funky
form
> the
> > > factory,
> > > > is how the clutch switch was wired up since there are no
> clutches
> > > in the
> > > > Birds and that was done with 2 solenoids in the system. I
have
> > > actually
> > > > taken those out of the system to get my cruise working
> properly and
> > > that
> > > > was done with a pair of side cutters!
you
> have
> > > cruise.
> > > > Now the problem with the break pedal not canceling the
cruise
> is or
> > > has
> > > > generally been a bad set switch or corroded contacts in a
> > > connector. And
> > > > can usually be cleared up by cleaning the pin contacts
coming
> from
> > > the
> > > > Bendix control.
> > > >
> > > > Remember that our Coaches put out 120 to 130 psi of air and
> there
> > > is a
> > > > regulator with the bendix set up to drop that pressure to
80
> to 90
> > > psi,
> > > > thereby making the working difference of only a few psi
> > > differential that
> > > > the electronics of the bendix system reads and enacts on.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Safe travels,
> > > >
> > > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > > > 84FC35
> > > > Duncan, Oklahoma
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Curt Sprenger
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > Anaheim Hills, CA
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
Troubleshooting Bendix Fast Idle/Cruise Control on 89 35FC 3208 ATAAC - Rick B - 01-11-2008 03:08
I just wanted to jump in and let folks know that Mike Hohnstein in
Germantown, WI has worked on the Bendix throttle / cruise setup on my
1987 FC 35. I was unable to find a replacement Bendix cable anywhere,
or even get one made, but Mike was able to get the job done. He has
also tuned up the throttle to get me full throttle opening. Anyone
(especially 87-89 FC) experiencing problems with the Bendix, cables,
throttle, setup - I can highly recommend Mike. I would also trust him
with anything else on my engine / drive train, chassis AC (works great
now!), and about anything else he was willing to tackle.
Anyone with an 87-89 FC should keep Mike's number handy in case they
have problems with their Bendix throttle/cruise setup.
- Rick
87FC35
Rochester, MN
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Gideon"
>
> My multimeter testing indicated the potentiometer to be faulty or at
> least out of tolernce. I tested with the 'pot' still on the coach
> and now am traveling in South Texas and will replace pot in April
> after this trip. Parts man named Spark at Seattle Clutch & Brake
> fixed me up with a new Bendix pot and spring assembly P/N 101951N.
>
> The CC works poorly but is still useful to allow me to keep my coach
> speed above the set speed (cruise control helps pull the injector
> pump to 'WOT' wide open throttle.
>
> The high idle still behaves same as when I first bought the FC back
> in Sept 2006, i.e. goes to 3000 rpm immediately when pressing the
> resume switch on the CC panel.
>
> Dick Gideon
> 1989 35 FC
> On the road, Canyon Lake, Texas
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hayden"
>
> >
> > Still is not working even with the new CC-5. I'll look into it
> later after we've settled at the winter quarters. Leaving tomorrow
> morning.
> >
> > Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Curt Sprenger
> > To:
> WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 3:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Troubleshooting Bendix Fast
> Idle/Cruise Control on 89 35FC 3208 ATAAC
> >
> >
> > Dick,
> >
> > FYI in case you need a CC-5 unit. The CC-5 unit is no longer
> manufactured. A
> > couple of us just purchased CC-5 potentiometer units through
> Brake & Clutch
> > Supply, Seattle, Washington. Talk to Spark. I bought one for
> possible
> > future need. Dick Hayden bought one because his CC was not
> working.
> >
> > On 10/15/07, Richard Gideon
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply Ralph: Early this morning I got into
> my "blue
> > > box" and retrieved the booklet describing the operation and
> > > troubleshooting the Bendix Cruise Control System (SD-10-1)and
> on page
> > > 15 of the booklet I found the symptoms, cause & remedy for what
> > > appears to be ailing the CC on my FC.
> > >
> > > V. Cruise Control System oscillates above and below the speed
> > > setting. Will not hold a specific speed setting within plus or
> minus
> > > 1 mph on level highway.
> > >
> > > Cause, CC-5 potentiometer or its wiring is defective.
> > >
> > > Remedy. Visually inspect for broken or obviously damaged wiring
> to
> > > the CC-5 potentiometer (Figure 13). Disconnect wiring connector
> 3 in
> > > Figure 13 and check the resistance between the sockets shown:
> > >
> > > 1 and 3 3600-4400 ohms
> > > 2 and 3 1080-1320 ohms
> > > 1 and 2 4320-5280 ohms
> > >
> > > If these readings are not obtained, replace the CC-5
> potentiometer.
> > >
> > > I'll post later this week, with the results of my testing.
> Thanks
> > > for the guidance...I"ll dig out my digital volt/ohmeter.
> > >
> > > Dick Gideon
> > > Freedom Bird
> > > 1989 35FCSB
> > > Rolla, MO
> > >
> > > --- In
> WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
> > >
> > > >
> > > > PT cruise/air throttle/high idle
> > > >
> > > > Some time back, I posted to the files section, a couple of
> files
> > > on how
> > > > these systems work and inter act.
> > > >
> > > > As for the FC's it is a little difference because the factory
> <BB>
> > > dip
> > > > switch settings allowed the fc cruise controls to work
> slightly
> > > different
> > > > than the PT's.
> > > >
> > > > As for the problem in the FC, where it is on or off and no in
> > > between, I
> > > > would suspect the CC5 potentiometer internal of the cylinder
> to be
> > > faulty.
> > > > All this can be checked with a decent Multimeter and
> following the
> > > checks
> > > > in the Bendix manual that should be in the blue box.
> > > >
> > > > The only thing I have found that was done a little funky form
> the
> > > factory,
> > > > is how the clutch switch was wired up since there are no
> clutches
> > > in the
> > > > Birds and that was done with 2 solenoids in the system. I have
> > > actually
> > > > taken those out of the system to get my cruise working
> properly and
> > > that
> > > > was done with a pair of side cutters!
> have
> > > cruise.
> > > > Now the problem with the break pedal not canceling the cruise
> is or
> > > has
> > > > generally been a bad set switch or corroded contacts in a
> > > connector. And
> > > > can usually be cleared up by cleaning the pin contacts coming
> from
> > > the
> > > > Bendix control.
> > > >
> > > > Remember that our Coaches put out 120 to 130 psi of air and
> there
> > > is a
> > > > regulator with the bendix set up to drop that pressure to 80
> to 90
> > > psi,
> > > > thereby making the working difference of only a few psi
> > > differential that
> > > > the electronics of the bendix system reads and enacts on.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Safe travels,
> > > >
> > > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > > > 84FC35
> > > > Duncan, Oklahoma
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Curt Sprenger
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > Anaheim Hills, CA
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>