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Freeze Protection - Jon - 11-27-2005 16:44

Just was wondering how many of the old coaches had heaters (Blower
Type ) in the area that contains the water storage tank and hot water
heater? And if not has anyone installed this type of device to keep
that area above freezing? Jon

Jon Lechich
1978 Wanderlodge

Freeze Protection - Ralph L. Fullenwider - 11-27-2005 16:49

Jon:

The early 80's Coaches had heaters in the water tank area, in the fresh
water tank area and under the sink, as well as the heat tapes. Am not sure
about the pre 80's though.

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm

At 04:44 AM 11/28/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>Just was wondering how many of the old coaches had heaters (Blower
>Type ) in the area that contains the water storage tank and hot water
>heater? And if not has anyone installed this type of device to keep
>that area above freezing? Jon
>
>Jon Lechich
>1978 Wanderlodge

Freeze Protection - Curt Sprenger - 11-28-2005 02:45

Jon,
Our previous coach, a 1974 Bird, has the hair dryer type heater in the
water storage & water heater area.

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Jon wrote:

> Just was wondering how many of the old coaches had heaters (Blower
> Type ) in the area that contains the water storage tank and hot water
> heater? And if not has anyone installed this type of device to keep
> that area above freezing? Jon
>
> Jon Lechich
> 1978 Wanderlodge
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Freeze Protection - Gregory OConnor - 11-28-2005 14:30

Curt, Hairdryer ?
Greg O'Connor pt40 Romoland,CA

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> Jon,
> Our previous coach, a 1974 Bird, has the hair dryer type heater in
the
> water storage & water heater area.
>
> Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
>
>
> Jon wrote:
>
> > Just was wondering how many of the old coaches had heaters (Blower
> > Type ) in the area that contains the water storage tank and hot
water
> > heater? And if not has anyone installed this type of device to
keep
> > that area above freezing? Jon
> >
> > Jon Lechich
> > 1978 Wanderlodge
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Freeze Protection - Curt Sprenger - 11-28-2005 17:37

Yup, that is what they looked like, just a little larger than the
household units.

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Gregory OConnor wrote:

> Curt, Hairdryer ?
> Greg O'Connor pt40 Romoland,CA
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger
> wrote:
> >
> > Jon,
> > Our previous coach, a 1974 Bird, has the hair dryer type heater in
> the
> > water storage & water heater area.
> >
> > Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jon wrote:
> >
> > > Just was wondering how many of the old coaches had heaters (Blower
> > > Type ) in the area that contains the water storage tank and hot
> water
> > > heater? And if not has anyone installed this type of device to
> keep
> > > that area above freezing? Jon
> > >
> > > Jon Lechich
> > > 1978 Wanderlodge
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Freeze Protection - Jon - 12-14-2008 16:03

Well I blew down all my water lines this week and now its 20 degrees
outside. So I hope I got all the water out of both lines as it would
be hell to repair water lines that were not drained down. I also set
up a oil electric heater in the coach just for good measures. Oh yes
one more this is that sence only haft the coach has fresh water lines
running from the back I also hung a heavy blanket from a rod (like a
shower curtain) in the front end inside of the coach by the bathroom
door.

Now I was wondering has anyone here had the misfortune of not checking
there water lines before a big freeze? And do the newer coaches have a
better system to keep the internal pipes from freezing?

Freeze Protection - Chuck Wheeler - 12-14-2008 17:44


Jon,
You do not say what bb you have, but our 82 has the plumbing wrapped with heat tape plus freeze heaters in the pipe areas. If you have the power for a electric heater I would make sure that the others are installed and working. It would be very difficult to keep the plumbing areas warm by heating the inside of the coach. I discovered this when I had a electrical problem that kept the freeze heaters from working. The plumbing froze up while the inside of the BB was about 75 degrees. Outside temperature was 14. I was lucky and didn't break any pipes.
- Chuck Wheeler-
1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX

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Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:03 PM
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Well I blew down all my water lines this week and now its 20 degrees
outside. So I hope I got all the water out of both lines as it would
be hell to repair water lines that were not drained down. I also set
up a oil electric heater in the coach just for good measures. Oh yes
one more this is that sence only haft the coach has fresh water lines
running from the back I also hung a heavy blanket from a rod (like a
shower curtain) in the front end inside of the coach by the bathroom
door.

Now I was wondering has anyone here had the misfortune of not checking
there water lines before a big freeze? And do the newer coaches have a
better system to keep the internal pipes from freezing?



Freeze Protection - erniecarpet@... - 12-14-2008 20:16



When I was in the deep freeze of Montana, I had to put hay bales around my tanks. Since I was able to be on 50 amps, all freeze heaters and some other electric heaters were running. It still froze. I took the runs up that covered the water lines and that helped.
Ernie Ekberg
83PT40 Wanderlodge
Weatherford, Texas





Freeze Protection - Pete Masterson - 12-15-2008 04:54

The newer coaches have a heated basement with a "low temperature" thermostat. (It holds about 40 degrees.) The AquaHot system provides the heat. In moderate (light) freeze conditions, the 2000 watt electric element provides sufficient heat. In colder conditions, the diesel burner must be set to cycle on. My coach also has 'heat tape' on one pipe that runs through a raceway at the edge of the coach.
The electric oil-filled heater is a good choice for inside the coach. I suggest opening the cabinets, especially those with plumbing inside, so the heat will reach the pipes.
Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
"aeonix1@mac.com"
On Dec 14, 2008, at 8:03 PM, Jon wrote:

Well I blew down all my water lines this week and now its 20 degrees 
outside.  So I hope I got all the water out of both lines as it would 
be hell to repair water lines that were not drained down.  I also set 
up a oil electric heater in the coach just for good measures.  Oh yes 
one more this is that sence only haft the coach has fresh water lines 
running from the back I also hung a heavy blanket from a rod (like a 
shower curtain) in the front end inside of the coach by the bathroom 
door.  
Now I was wondering has anyone here had the misfortune of not checking 
there water lines before a big freeze?  And do the newer coaches have a 
better system to keep the internal pipes from freezing?


Freeze Protection - Chuck Wheeler - 12-15-2008 05:32


Ernie,
If you are operating in cold weather I have found that the Watts Hot Water Recirculating System worked well. It circulates back through the cold water side and keeps both from freezing. We have a side bath so the shower is the farthest point in the system. I have the return valve at the shower. The down side is that you get a little burst of hot water from the cold side as the valve switchesbut no freezing and you get instant hot water! Since the family moved I have removed it and use it at the house now.
- Chuck Wheeler-
1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX

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When I was in the deep freeze of Montana, I had to put hay bales around my tanks. Since I was able to be on 50 amps, all freeze heaters and some other electric heaters were running. It still froze. I took the runs up that covered the water lines and that helped.
Ernie Ekberg
83PT40 Wanderlodge
Weatherford, Texas