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Strange smoke - brad barton - 10-25-2008 13:37 Don't know if anyone has had this problem, but my generator apparently "lugged down" for a while. Yes, I should've used glow plugs, but it had been facing the sun at College Station for hours. It started quickly, then I walked back to the thermostat and toggled through all three zones to change the settings from heat to cool. It took a minute or two to get things started. I went inside the building to take care of business, when someone burst into the restroom and told me my bus was smoking. Diesel smoke black as coal was coming out of the generator roof exhaust. I immediately shut off the first AC at the cockpit and the generator smoothed out, sped up and the smoke cleared. I had no other trouble and suppose (hope) I didn't do any damage. That has never happened before. If anyone has any thoughts..... BradBarton00LXiDFW bbartonwx@... Stay organized with simple drag and drop from Windows Live Hotmail. Try it Strange smoke - Gregory OConnor - 10-25-2008 15:03 I think the lug in our case wasnt that it was more effort than the engine could handle but the demand for more rpm/spinn was so sudden that the kubota couldnt progressivly turn the turbo to fan the fire's. the demand prompted dumping too much fuel. the setup on generator engines are diff than kubota tractors because they are unmaned and this problem is typical. my kubota driven hydroseed pumps have centrifugal goveners that 'regulate the release of' or 'limit the delivery of' more fuel than can burn with that rpms given air. May be your weights are stuck or sticking. on a SOB friends '07 coach (Its not the other way), he has one of those energy managemet systems that shut things down on the demand side when the amp supply is low. While hooked into shore power one ac kicking on would shut off other items. turned out to be the start capacitor in the ac was screwed. Greg94ptCa . --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, brad barton <bbartonwx@...> wrote: > > Don't know if anyone has had this problem, but my generator apparently "lugged down" for a while. > Yes, I should've used glow plugs, but it had been facing the sun at College Station for hours. It started quickly, then I walked back to the thermostat and toggled through all three zones to change the settings from heat to cool. It took a minute or two to get things started. I went inside the building to take care of business, when someone burst into the restroom and told me my bus was smoking. Diesel smoke black as coal was coming out of the generator roof exhaust. > I immediately shut off the first AC at the cockpit and the generator smoothed out, sped up and the smoke cleared. I had no other trouble and suppose (hope) I didn't do any damage. That has never happened before. > If anyone has any thoughts.....Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@... > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay organized with simple drag and drop from Windows Live Hotmail. > http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail? ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_102008 > Strange smoke - Pete Masterson - 10-26-2008 02:44 Change the air filter. I, too, got a "your bus is on fire" scare when excessive black smoke was coming from the generator exhaust. Turns out, when the air filter gets clogged up, it causes inefficient combustion in the engine, generating a TON of black smoke. Once you've replaced the air filter, open the lower exhaust exit, start the generator, and be prepared for a huge pile of soot to blow out (something for you to clean up...). You might prefer to locate yourself where the soot-pile won't present a difficult problem. It blows a fair way from the exhaust exit. (i.e. don't park next to a white car.) Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 aeonix1@... On the road at On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:37 PM, brad barton wrote: > Don't know if anyone has had this problem, but my generator > apparently "lugged down" for a while. > Yes, I should've used glow plugs, but it had been facing the sun at > College Station for hours. It started quickly, then I walked back > to the thermostat and toggled through all three zones to change the > settings from heat to cool. It took a minute or two to get things > started. I went inside the building to take care of business, when > someone burst into the restroom and told me my bus was smoking. > Diesel smoke black as coal was coming out of the generator roof > exhaust. > I immediately shut off the first AC at the cockpit and the > generator smoothed out, sped up and the smoke cleared. I had no > other trouble and suppose (hope) I didn't do any damage. That has > never happened before. > If anyone has any thoughts..... > > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@... Strange smoke - brad barton - 10-26-2008 03:30 Thanks Pete. That goes on my to-do list. It sure went away when I temporarily removed the electrical load. BradBarton00LXiDFW bbartonwx@... To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com From: aeonix1@... Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:44:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Strange smoke
Change the air filter. I, too, got a "your bus is on fire" scare when excessive black smoke was coming from the generator exhaust. Turns out, when the air filter gets clogged up, it causes inefficient combustion in the engine, generating a TON of black smoke. Once you've replaced the air filter, open the lower exhaust exit, start the generator, and be prepared for a huge pile of soot to blow out (something for you to clean up...). You might prefer to locate yourself where the soot-pile won't present a difficult problem. It blows a fair way from the exhaust exit. (i.e. don't park next to a white car.) Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 "aeonix1@mac.com" On the road at On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:37 PM, brad barton wrote: > Don't know if anyone has had this problem, but my generator > apparently "lugged down" for a while. > Yes, I should've used glow plugs, but it had been facing the sun at > College Station for hours. It started quickly, then I walked back > to the thermostat and toggled through all three zones to change the > settings from heat to cool. It took a minute or two to get things > started. I went inside the building to take care of business, when > someone burst into the restroom and told me my bus was smoking. > Diesel smoke black as coal was coming out of the generator roof > exhaust. > I immediately shut off the first AC at the cockpit and the > generator smoothed out, sped up and the smoke cleared. I had no > other trouble and suppose (hope) I didn't do any damage. That has > never happened before. > If anyone has any thoughts.... > > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW "bbartonwx@hotmail.com" When your life is on the goâtake your life with you. Try Windows Mobile® today Strange smoke - brad barton - 10-26-2008 03:36 Greg, That sounds reasonable. I'll have it checked. Thanks. BradBarton00LXiDFW bbartonwx@... To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com From: Gregoryoc@... Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:03:08 +0000 Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Strange smoke
I think the lug in our case wasnt that it was more effort than the engine could handle but the demand for more rpm/spinn was so sudden that the kubota couldnt progressivly turn the turbo to fan the fire's. the demand prompted dumping too much fuel. the setup on generator engines are diff than kubota tractors because they are unmaned and this problem is typical. my kubota driven hydroseed pumps have centrifugal goveners that 'regulate the release of' or 'limit the delivery of' more fuel than can burn with that rpms given air. May be your weights are stuck or sticking. on a SOB friends '07 coach (Its not the other way), he has one of those energy managemet systems that shut things down on the demand side when the amp supply is low. While hooked into shore power one ac kicking on would shut off other items. turned out to be the start capacitor in the ac was screwed. Greg94ptCa . --- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", brad barton <bbartonwx@.<WBR>..> wrote: > > Don't know if anyone has had this problem, but my generator apparently "lugged down" for a while. > Yes, I should've used glow plugs, but it had been facing the sun at College Station for hours. It started quickly, then I walked back to the thermostat and toggled through all three zones to change the settings from heat to cool. It took a minute or two to get things started. I went inside the building to take care of business, when someone burst into the restroom and told me my bus was smoking. Diesel smoke black as coal was coming out of the generator roof exhaust. > I immediately shut off the first AC at the cockpit and the generator smoothed out, sped up and the smoke cleared. I had no other trouble and suppose (hope) I didn't do any damage. That has never happened before. > If anyone has any thoughts.... > ____________ > Stay organized with simple drag and drop from Windows Live Hotmail. > http://windowslive. ocid=TXT_TAGLM_ > Store, manage and share up to 5GB with Windows Live SkyDrive. Start uploading now Strange smoke - Pete Masterson - 10-26-2008 11:01 No load, not much fuel draw, not much air required = no smoke. Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 aeonix1@... On the road at Ft. Chiswell, VA On Oct 26, 2008, at 10:30 AM, brad barton wrote: > Thanks Pete. That goes on my to-do list. It sure went away when I > temporarily removed the electrical load. > > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@... > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > From: aeonix1@... > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:44:52 -0400 > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Strange smoke > > Change the air filter. I, too, got a "your bus is on fire" scare when > excessive black smoke was coming from the generator exhaust. Turns > out, when the air filter gets clogged up, it causes inefficient > combustion in the engine, generating a TON of black smoke. Once > you've replaced the air filter, open the lower exhaust exit, start > the generator, and be prepared for a huge pile of soot to blow out > (something for you to clean up...). You might prefer to locate > yourself where the soot-pile won't present a difficult problem. It > blows a fair way from the exhaust exit. (i.e. don't park next to a > white car.) > > Pete Masterson > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 > aeonix1@... > On the road at > > On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:37 PM, brad barton wrote: > > > Don't know if anyone has had this problem, but my generator > > apparently "lugged down" for a while. > > Yes, I should've used glow plugs, but it had been facing the sun at > > College Station for hours. It started quickly, then I walked back > > to the thermostat and toggled through all three zones to change the > > settings from heat to cool. It took a minute or two to get things > > started. I went inside the building to take care of business, when > > someone burst into the restroom and told me my bus was smoking. > > Diesel smoke black as coal was coming out of the generator roof > > exhaust. > > I immediately shut off the first AC at the cockpit and the > > generator smoothed out, sped up and the smoke cleared. I had no > > other trouble and suppose (hope) I didn't do any damage. That has > > never happened before. > > If anyone has any thoughts..... > > > > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@... > > > > When your life is on the goâtake your life with you. Try Windows > Mobile® today |