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A long afternoon - mbulriss - 02-27-2010 16:27
I spent all afternoon (into the early evening) opening up the bed and then the
innards to be able to replace alternator #1 - one more time. In mine, I also
have to work around all the plumbing, which was conveniently installed in the
way of the engine hatch! After opening the floor, you can't even see the alt!!!
I have to stand on the tranny and kind of remove the alt by feel. I bought a
new one and replaced it. Not going to screw around rebuilding the old one again
- 7000 miles since the last time has soured me on rebuilds. Besides, the new
one was the same price as the last rebuild. This is really not a fun job.
After I finished installing the alt, I then installed a replacement turbo intake
tube that I found in a 'reclamation center' (aka: truck junk yard) to replace
the one that broke in South Padre. The weld job did not hold up. If you want a
good laugh, I called Detroit to see about getting a new one, because I really
wanted a new one. When I heard $500 for a piece of exhaust pipe, I decided to
try to find a used one. If anyone knows of a place to get part number 5101394
(yup, it's stamped right on it) for way less than $500, let me know please. And
I used to think Harley parts were high dollar!
Man, I am beat up and sore all over! I left the floor open as I want to remove
the 'infamous' coolant hoses to the air pump tomorrow. At least that's the
current plan. I realllllly am not looking forward to that job! I think I will
replace them with braided stainless steel hoses so I never have to do it again!
While I was having fun, the wife pulled each screen window and washed them, did
the Invisible Glass cleaning on each window, and then scrubbed each window track
and silicon lubed them. They slide open really nice now.
It seems my to-do list just keeps growing without getting shorter! Is it just
me? I want to change the thermostats to 170s. I need to rebuild the Gast air
pump. I have service the air dryer on the list. I plan to pull the electric
heaters to clean them out. And on and on..... And I haven't even started on the
wife's list of modifications yet! I keep wondering: Are we having fun yet?
Long day..... having fun.
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
A long afternoon - Robert Britton - 02-28-2010 06:43
It's your hobby Mike, and sure beats sitting in front of the tube all day! And
when you finish a job there is nothing like the gratification and higher level
of confidence you now have in your coach.
Good job!
Robert Britton
Hollister, California
A long afternoon - contrail Bob - 02-28-2010 07:32
Hi Mike
I replaced the #1 Alt. twice on my 93. After the second time It failed again and
I just took it off and left it off. I never had any problem's with the # 2 and
it charged everything just fine. Talking to BB sometime later I was told that
the cable's were too small and they thought that was the problem with premature
failure of #1??????
Bob 99LX SK..SPI till 20Mar.
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...> wrote:
>
> I spent all afternoon (into the early evening) opening up the bed and then the
innards to be able to replace alternator #1 - one more time. In mine, I also
have to work around all the plumbing, which was conveniently installed in the
way of the engine hatch! After opening the floor, you can't even see the alt!!!
I have to stand on the tranny and kind of remove the alt by feel. I bought a
new one and replaced it. Not going to screw around rebuilding the old one again
- 7000 miles since the last time has soured me on rebuilds. Besides, the new
one was the same price as the last rebuild. This is really not a fun job.
>
> After I finished installing the alt, I then installed a replacement turbo
intake tube that I found in a 'reclamation center' (aka: truck junk yard) to
replace the one that broke in South Padre. The weld job did not hold up. If
you want a good laugh, I called Detroit to see about getting a new one, because
I really wanted a new one. When I heard $500 for a piece of exhaust pipe, I
decided to try to find a used one. If anyone knows of a place to get part
number 5101394 (yup, it's stamped right on it) for way less than $500, let me
know please. And I used to think Harley parts were high dollar!
>
> Man, I am beat up and sore all over! I left the floor open as I want to
remove the 'infamous' coolant hoses to the air pump tomorrow. At least that's
the current plan. I realllllly am not looking forward to that job! I think I
will replace them with braided stainless steel hoses so I never have to do it
again!
>
> While I was having fun, the wife pulled each screen window and washed them,
did the Invisible Glass cleaning on each window, and then scrubbed each window
track and silicon lubed them. They slide open really nice now.
>
> It seems my to-do list just keeps growing without getting shorter! Is it just
me? I want to change the thermostats to 170s. I need to rebuild the Gast air
pump. I have service the air dryer on the list. I plan to pull the electric
heaters to clean them out. And on and on..... And I haven't even started on the
wife's list of modifications yet! I keep wondering: Are we having fun yet?
>
> Long day..... having fun.
>
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
A long afternoon - ronmarabito2002 - 02-28-2010 07:58
Mike: Why do you want to change thermostats to 170's? Good heat without
overheat makes the engine run better and more efficiently. I think 180's is
cool enough.
R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...> wrote:
>
> I spent all afternoon (into the early evening) opening up the bed and then the
innards to be able to replace alternator #1 - one more time. In mine, I also
have to work around all the plumbing, which was conveniently installed in the
way of the engine hatch! After opening the floor, you can't even see the alt!!!
I have to stand on the tranny and kind of remove the alt by feel. I bought a
new one and replaced it. Not going to screw around rebuilding the old one again
- 7000 miles since the last time has soured me on rebuilds. Besides, the new
one was the same price as the last rebuild. This is really not a fun job.
>
> After I finished installing the alt, I then installed a replacement turbo
intake tube that I found in a 'reclamation center' (aka: truck junk yard) to
replace the one that broke in South Padre. The weld job did not hold up. If
you want a good laugh, I called Detroit to see about getting a new one, because
I really wanted a new one. When I heard $500 for a piece of exhaust pipe, I
decided to try to find a used one. If anyone knows of a place to get part
number 5101394 (yup, it's stamped right on it) for way less than $500, let me
know please. And I used to think Harley parts were high dollar!
>
> Man, I am beat up and sore all over! I left the floor open as I want to
remove the 'infamous' coolant hoses to the air pump tomorrow. At least that's
the current plan. I realllllly am not looking forward to that job! I think I
will replace them with braided stainless steel hoses so I never have to do it
again!
>
> While I was having fun, the wife pulled each screen window and washed them,
did the Invisible Glass cleaning on each window, and then scrubbed each window
track and silicon lubed them. They slide open really nice now.
>
> It seems my to-do list just keeps growing without getting shorter! Is it just
me? I want to change the thermostats to 170s. I need to rebuild the Gast air
pump. I have service the air dryer on the list. I plan to pull the electric
heaters to clean them out. And on and on..... And I haven't even started on the
wife's list of modifications yet! I keep wondering: Are we having fun yet?
>
> Long day..... having fun.
>
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
A long afternoon - Rick Davis - 02-28-2010 08:06
Mike, I've been told the long coolant hose to my 8V92's air compressor runs too close to the hot manifold to allow using a stainless steel hose.
Rick Davis
1993 WBSA
Loudon, TN
From: mbulriss <mbulriss@...>
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 11:27:55 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] A long afternoon
I spent all afternoon (into the early evening) opening up the bed and then the innards to be able to replace alternator #1 - one more time. In mine, I also have to work around all the plumbing, which was conveniently installed in the way of the engine hatch! After opening the floor, you can't even see the alt!!! I have to stand on the tranny and kind of remove the alt by feel. I bought a new one and replaced it. Not going to screw around rebuilding the old one again - 7000 miles since the last time has soured me on rebuilds. Besides, the new one was the same price as the last rebuild. This is really not a fun job.
After I finished installing the alt, I then installed a replacement turbo intake tube that I found in a 'reclamation center' (aka: truck junk yard) to replace the one that broke in South Padre. The weld job did not hold up. If you want a good laugh, I called Detroit to see about getting a new one, because I really wanted a new one.
When I heard $500 for a piece of exhaust pipe, I decided to try to find a used one. If anyone knows of a place to get part number 5101394 (yup, it's stamped right on it) for way less than $500, let me know please. And I used to think Harley parts were high dollar!
Man, I am beat up and sore all over! I left the floor open as I want to remove the 'infamous' coolant hoses to the air pump tomorrow. At least that's the current plan. I realllllly am not looking forward to that job! I think I will replace them with braided stainless steel hoses so I never have to do it again!
While I was having fun, the wife pulled each screen window and washed them, did the Invisible Glass cleaning on each window, and then scrubbed each window track and silicon lubed them. They slide open really nice now.
It seems my to-do list just keeps growing without getting shorter! Is it just me? I want to change the thermostats to 170s. I need to rebuild the Gast
air pump. I have service the air dryer on the list. I plan to pull the electric heaters to clean them out. And on and on..... And I haven't even started on the wife's list of modifications yet! I keep wondering: Are we having fun yet?
Long day..... having fun.
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
A long afternoon - sally brustowicz - 02-28-2010 08:40
Rick,
Hi.. We're new to the forum and BB.. We have a 93WLWB.
We're wondering if you've had any issues with your shower faucets?
My husband Ted would like to talk to you if possible. Could you PM us or private email with a number where we could reach you.
TIA
Sally and Ted Brustowicz
1993 WLWB PT
Niceville Fl 32578
"TrBrustowicz@cox.net"
On Feb 28, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Rick Davis wrote:
Mike, I've been told the long coolant hose to my 8V92's air compressor runs too close to the hot manifold to allow using a stainless steel hose.Rick Davis1993 WBSALoudon, TN
From: mbulriss <mbulriss@yahoo.<wbr>com>
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 11:27:55 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] A long afternoon
I spent all afternoon (into the early evening) opening up the bed and then the innards to be able to replace alternator #1 - one more time. In mine, I also have to work around all the plumbing, which was conveniently installed in the way of the engine hatch! After opening the floor, you can't even see the alt!!! I have to stand on the tranny and kind of remove the alt by feel. I bought a new one and replaced it. Not going to screw around rebuilding the old one again - 7000 miles since the last time has soured me on rebuilds. Besides, the new one was the same price as the last rebuild. This is really not a fun job.
After I finished installing the alt, I then installed a replacement turbo intake tube that I found in a 'reclamation center' (aka: truck junk yard) to replace the one that broke in South Padre. The weld job did not hold up. If you want a good laugh, I called Detroit to see about getting a new one, because I really wanted a new one.
When I heard $500 for a piece of exhaust pipe, I decided to try to find a used one. If anyone knows of a place to get part number 5101394 (yup, it's stamped right on it) for way less than $500, let me know please. And I used to think Harley parts were high dollar!
Man, I am beat up and sore all over! I left the floor open as I want to remove the 'infamous' coolant hoses to the air pump tomorrow. At least that's the current plan. I realllllly am not looking forward to that job! I think I will replace them with braided stainless steel hoses so I never have to do it again!
While I was having fun, the wife pulled each screen window and washed them, did the Invisible Glass cleaning on each window, and then scrubbed each window track and silicon lubed them. They slide open really nice now.
It seems my to-do list just keeps growing without getting shorter! Is it just me? I want to change the thermostats to 170s. I need to rebuild the Gast
air pump. I have service the air dryer on the list. I plan to pull the electric heaters to clean them out. And on and on..... And I haven't even started on the wife's list of modifications yet! I keep wondering: Are we having fun yet?
Long day..... having fun.
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
A long afternoon - Rick Davis - 02-28-2010 08:45
I sent you a PM.
Rick Davis
1993 WBSA
Loudon, TN
865-789-3130
"davisgr2@yahoo.com"
From: sally brustowicz <sbrustowicz@...>
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 3:40:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] A long afternoon
Rick,
Hi.. We're new to the forum and BB.. We have a 93WLWB.
We're wondering if you've had any issues with your shower faucets?
My husband Ted would like to talk to you if possible. Could you PM us or private email with a number where we could reach you.
TIA
Sally and Ted Brustowicz
1993 WLWB PT
Niceville Fl 32578
"TrBrustowicz@cox.net"
On Feb 28, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Rick Davis wrote:
Mike, I've been told the long coolant hose to my 8V92's air compressor runs too close to the hot manifold to allow using a stainless steel hose.Rick Davis1993 WBSALoudon, TN
From: mbulriss <mbulriss@yahoo. com>
To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 11:27:55 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] A long afternoon
I spent all afternoon (into the early evening) opening up the bed and then the innards to be able to replace alternator #1 - one more time. In mine, I also have to work around all the plumbing, which was conveniently installed in the way of the engine hatch! After opening the floor, you can't even see the alt!!! I have to stand on the tranny and kind of remove the alt by feel. I bought a new one and replaced it. Not going to screw around rebuilding the old one again - 7000 miles since the last time has soured me on rebuilds. Besides, the new one was the same price as the last rebuild. This is really not a fun job.
After I finished installing the alt, I then installed a replacement turbo intake tube that I found in a 'reclamation center' (aka: truck junk yard) to replace the one that broke in South Padre. The weld job did not hold up. If you want a good laugh, I called Detroit to see about getting a new one, because I really wanted a new one.
When I heard $500 for a piece of exhaust pipe, I decided to try to find a used one. If anyone knows of a place to get part number 5101394 (yup, it's stamped right on it) for way less than $500, let me know please. And I used to think Harley parts were high dollar!
Man, I am beat up and sore all over! I left the floor open as I want to remove the 'infamous' coolant hoses to the air pump tomorrow. At least that's the current plan. I realllllly am not looking forward to that job! I think I will replace them with braided stainless steel hoses so I never have to do it again!
While I was having fun, the wife pulled each screen window and washed them, did the Invisible Glass cleaning on each window, and then scrubbed each window track and silicon lubed them. They slide open really nice now.
It seems my to-do list just keeps growing without getting shorter! Is it just me? I want to change the thermostats to 170s. I need to rebuild the Gast
air pump. I have service the air dryer on the list. I plan to pull the electric heaters to clean them out. And on and on..... And I haven't even started on the wife's list of modifications yet! I keep wondering: Are we having fun yet?
Long day..... having fun.
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
A long afternoon - Robert Johannesen - 02-28-2010 09:46
I dropped my thermostststo 170s for about 6 months and the fan kept cycling on and off so often I went back to stock after talking to Detroit. I probably still have them if you want to try them on your rig.
From: ronmarabito2002
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 1:58:50 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: A long afternoon
Mike: Why do you want to change thermostats to 170's? Good heat without overheat makes the engine run better and more efficiently. I think 180's is cool enough.
R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "mbulriss" <mbulriss@.. .> wrote:
>
> I spent all afternoon (into the early evening) opening up the bed and then the innards to be able to replace alternator #1 - one more time. In mine, I also have to work around all the plumbing, which was conveniently installed in the way of the engine hatch! After opening the floor, you can't even see the alt!!! I have to stand on the tranny and kind of remove the alt by feel. I bought a new one and replaced it. Not going to screw around rebuilding the old one again - 7000 miles since the last time has soured me
on rebuilds. Besides, the new one was the same price as the last rebuild. This is really not a fun job.
>
> After I finished installing the alt, I then installed a replacement turbo intake tube that I found in a 'reclamation center' (aka: truck junk yard) to replace the one that broke in South Padre. The weld job did not hold up. If you want a good laugh, I called Detroit to see about getting a new one, because I really wanted a new one. When I heard $500 for a piece of exhaust pipe, I decided to try to find a used one. If anyone knows of a place to get part number 5101394 (yup, it's stamped right on it) for way less than $500, let me know please. And I used to think Harley parts were high dollar!
>
> Man, I am beat up and sore all over! I left the floor open as I want to remove the 'infamous' coolant hoses to the air pump tomorrow. At least that's the current plan. I realllllly am not looking forward to that job! I think I
will replace them with braided stainless steel hoses so I never have to do it again!
>
> While I was having fun, the wife pulled each screen window and washed them, did the Invisible Glass cleaning on each window, and then scrubbed each window track and silicon lubed them. They slide open really nice now.
>
> It seems my to-do list just keeps growing without getting shorter! Is it just me? I want to change the thermostats to 170s. I need to rebuild the Gast air pump. I have service the air dryer on the list. I plan to pull the electric heaters to clean them out. And on and on..... And I haven't even started on the wife's list of modifications yet! I keep wondering: Are we having fun yet?
>
> Long day..... having fun.
>
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
A long afternoon - mbulriss - 02-28-2010 14:20
Thanks Rick. I'll take another look, but it appears to be at least 6" below the
rear of the exhaust manifold on mine.
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Rick Davis
>
> Mike, I've been told the long coolant hose to my 8V92's air compressor runs
too close to the hot manifold to allow using a stainless steel hose.Ã
>
> Rick Davis
> 1993 WBSA
> Loudon, TN
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: mbulriss <mbulriss@...>
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 11:27:55 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] A long afternoon
>
> Ã
> I spent all afternoon (into the early evening) opening up the bed and then the
innards to be able to replace alternator #1 - one more time. In mine, I also
have to work around all the plumbing, which was conveniently installed in the
way of the engine hatch! After opening the floor, you can't even see the alt!!!
I have to stand on the tranny and kind of remove the alt by feel. I bought a new
one and replaced it. Not going to screw around rebuilding the old one again -
7000 miles since the last time has soured me on rebuilds. Besides, the new one
was the same price as the last rebuild. This is really not a fun job.
>
> After I finished installing the alt, I then installed a replacement turbo
intake tube that I found in a 'reclamation center' (aka: truck junk yard) to
replace the one that broke in South Padre. The weld job did not hold up. If you
want a good laugh, I called Detroit to see about getting a new one, because I
really wanted a new one. When I heard $500 for a piece of exhaust pipe, I
decided to try to find a used one. If anyone knows of a place to get part number
5101394 (yup, it's stamped right on it) for way less than $500, let me know
please. And I used to think Harley parts were high dollar!
>
> Man, I am beat up and sore all over! I left the floor open as I want to remove
the 'infamous' coolant hoses to the air pump tomorrow. At least that's the
current plan. I realllllly am not looking forward to that job! I think I will
replace them with braided stainless steel hoses so I never have to do it again!
>
> While I was having fun, the wife pulled each screen window and washed them,
did the Invisible Glass cleaning on each window, and then scrubbed each window
track and silicon lubed them. They slide open really nice now.
>
> It seems my to-do list just keeps growing without getting shorter! Is it just
me? I want to change the thermostats to 170s. I need to rebuild the Gast air
pump. I have service the air dryer on the list. I plan to pull the electric
heaters to clean them out. And on and on..... And I haven't even started on the
wife's list of modifications yet! I keep wondering: Are we having fun yet?
>
> Long day..... having fun.
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
A long afternoon - mbulriss - 02-28-2010 14:49
Well Ron, IMO I think a slightly cooler temp promotes engine longevity. Rick
Archie and Leroy Eckert reported good results going with lower temp thermostats.
Maybe they will pop in here to articulate further on their results.
In my case, when I am not running the A/C the temp constantly rises to 195 and
then drops to 180 when the t-stats open and then it constantly repeats the
cycle. If (and since) I run the A/C constantly, it puts the fan in override and
running all the time and keeps the temp at 180, where I am more comfortable.
From my years on the forum, I have learned that the 6V/8V Detroits do not
tolerate temps much over 200 very well. My feeling is that 195 does not give me
much comfort room if a t-stat sticks, or a water hose breaks. Bluebird
over-engineered the dashboard, but the two most important IMO are still oil
pressure and water temp. While I watch both of those pretty carefully, I do not
like having to drive with one eye on the temp gauge constantly.
Since I mainly drive in a relatively very warm area of the country (the last two
months notwithstanding) 170 seems to give a bigger margin of safety and I find
it hard to believe that the Detroit will react badly to a 10 degree lower water
jacket temp. Now I admit that I am assuming that the 170 t-stats will rise to
180+ before they cycle back down to 170 and close, thereby cycling like my
current t-stats. If it sounds like my current t-stats are just worn out, and
cycling too high, let me know.
Anyway, that's why 170 t-stats are on my to-do list.
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
wrote:
>
> Mike: Why do you want to change thermostats to 170's? Good heat without
overheat makes the engine run better and more efficiently. I think 180's is
cool enough.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@> wrote:
> >
> > I spent all afternoon (into the early evening) opening up the bed and then
the innards to be able to replace alternator #1 - one more time. In mine, I
also have to work around all the plumbing, which was conveniently installed in
the way of the engine hatch! After opening the floor, you can't even see the
alt!!! I have to stand on the tranny and kind of remove the alt by feel. I
bought a new one and replaced it. Not going to screw around rebuilding the old
one again - 7000 miles since the last time has soured me on rebuilds. Besides,
the new one was the same price as the last rebuild. This is really not a fun
job.
> >
> > After I finished installing the alt, I then installed a replacement turbo
intake tube that I found in a 'reclamation center' (aka: truck junk yard) to
replace the one that broke in South Padre. The weld job did not hold up. If
you want a good laugh, I called Detroit to see about getting a new one, because
I really wanted a new one. When I heard $500 for a piece of exhaust pipe, I
decided to try to find a used one. If anyone knows of a place to get part
number 5101394 (yup, it's stamped right on it) for way less than $500, let me
know please. And I used to think Harley parts were high dollar!
> >
> > Man, I am beat up and sore all over! I left the floor open as I want to
remove the 'infamous' coolant hoses to the air pump tomorrow. At least that's
the current plan. I realllllly am not looking forward to that job! I think I
will replace them with braided stainless steel hoses so I never have to do it
again!
> >
> > While I was having fun, the wife pulled each screen window and washed them,
did the Invisible Glass cleaning on each window, and then scrubbed each window
track and silicon lubed them. They slide open really nice now.
> >
> > It seems my to-do list just keeps growing without getting shorter! Is it
just me? I want to change the thermostats to 170s. I need to rebuild the Gast
air pump. I have service the air dryer on the list. I plan to pull the
electric heaters to clean them out. And on and on..... And I haven't even
started on the wife's list of modifications yet! I keep wondering: Are we
having fun yet?
> >
> > Long day..... having fun.
> >
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
>