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AC power lost on one leg - artw - 07-29-2010 11:49

While running the generator to charge batteries one of the legs quit. I was
running both front and rear air at the time. The inverter and rear
air are on the same circuit. That is the circuit that quit. The over-
head panel AC voltmeters both read 120v. On the monitor panel in the
kitchen one meter read zero and the other read 120v.

Any ideas out there?

Art Weatherly
Riverside Ca
85 PT36

AC power lost on one leg - Fred Hulse - 07-29-2010 12:34


Art
Check the circuit breakers at your panel and also you may have circuit brkrs at the genset.
Fred Hulse
97BB41


AC power lost on one leg - artw - 07-30-2010 11:27

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hulse" wrote:
>
> Art
> Check the circuit breakers at your panel and also you may have circuit brkrs
at the genset.
> Fred Hulse
> 97BB41
>
Ckt breakers cheched OK.

Today I took the cover off the AC breaker panel.
I disc. the two inputs to the panel and swapped them. Started the genset
and had power to both legs. I ran it for about 20 minutes. Nothing abnormal. I
am curious as to why the main voltmeters both about 130v.
Is that in range?


Art Weatherly
Riverside Ca
'85 PT36

AC power lost on one leg - Don Bradner - 07-30-2010 12:17

My generator is different than yours (a "Universal" only used in 1990, I think),
that runs at 130v no-load at 60Hz. If I set its speed down at all the voltage
will drop, but so will the Hz. Under significant load it drops to around 128v.

I've not experienced any problems except I had to set the max level for my
inverter (ProSine 2.0) to 131 or it won't kick out of inversion mode.

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1

On 7/30/2010 at 11:27 PM artw wrote:

>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hulse" wrote:
>>
>> Art
>> Check the circuit breakers at your panel and also you may have circuit
>brkrs at the genset.
>> Fred Hulse
>> 97BB41
>>
>Ckt breakers cheched OK.
>
>Today I took the cover off the AC breaker panel.
>I disc. the two inputs to the panel and swapped them. Started the genset
>and had power to both legs. I ran it for about 20 minutes. Nothing
>abnormal. I am curious as to why the main voltmeters both about 130v.
>Is that in range?
>
>
>Art Weatherly
>Riverside Ca
>'85 PT36

AC power lost on one leg - GARY MINKER - 07-30-2010 23:38

Use a real voltmeter and do not trust the panel mount units. If you really have 130 volts you have other issues that will cause damage to the rest of your things.
gary 85pt40

--- On Fri, 7/30/10, Don Bradner wrote:
From: Don Bradner
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: AC power lost on one leg
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 8:17 PM




My generator is different than yours (a "Universal" only used in 1990, I think), that runs at 130v no-load at 60Hz. If I set its speed down at all the voltage will drop, but so will the Hz. Under significant load it drops to around 128v.



I've not experienced any problems except I had to set the max level for my inverter (ProSine 2.0) to 131 or it won't kick out of inversion mode.



Don Bradner

90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"

My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1



On 7/30/2010 at 11:27 PM artw wrote:



>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hulse" wrote:

>>

>> Art

>> Check the circuit breakers at your panel and also you may have circuit

>brkrs at the genset.

>> Fred Hulse

>> 97BB41

>>

>Ckt breakers cheched OK.

>

>Today I took the cover off the AC breaker panel.

>I disc. the two inputs to the panel and swapped them. Started the genset

>and had power to both legs. I ran it for about 20 minutes. Nothing

>abnormal. I am curious as to why the main voltmeters both about 130v.

>Is that in range?

>

>

>Art Weatherly

>Riverside Ca

>'85 PT36





AC power lost on one leg - Don Bradner - 07-31-2010 04:55

Gary, I'm reading the 130 off the digital display for the ProSine. I have tons
of expensive electronics (besides normal Blue Bird stuff) in my bus (others here
can attest!) and have never had a problem.

On 7/31/2010 at 4:38 AM GARY MINKER wrote:

>Use a real voltmeter and do not trust the panel mount units. If you
>really have 130 volts you have other issues that will cause damage to the
>rest of your things.
>gary 85pt40
>
>--- On Fri, 7/30/10, Don Bradner wrote:
>
>From: Don Bradner
>Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: AC power lost on one leg
>To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 8:17 PM
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> My generator is different than yours (a "Universal" only used in
>1990, I think), that runs at 130v no-load at 60Hz. If I set its speed down
>at all the voltage will drop, but so will the Hz. Under significant load
>it drops to around 128v.
>
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>I've not experienced any problems except I had to set the max level for my
>inverter (ProSine 2.0) to 131 or it won't kick out of inversion mode.
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>Don Bradner
>
>90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
>
>My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1
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>On 7/30/2010 at 11:27 PM artw wrote:
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>>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hulse" wrote:
>
>>>
>
>>> Art
>
>>> Check the circuit breakers at your panel and also you may have circuit
>
>>brkrs at the genset.
>
>>> Fred Hulse
>
>>> 97BB41
>
>>>
>
>>Ckt breakers cheched OK.
>
>>
>
>>Today I took the cover off the AC breaker panel.
>
>>I disc. the two inputs to the panel and swapped them. Started the genset
>
>>and had power to both legs. I ran it for about 20 minutes. Nothing
>
>>abnormal. I am curious as to why the main voltmeters both about 130v.
>
>>Is that in range?
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>Art Weatherly
>
>>Riverside Ca
>
>>'85 PT36

AC power lost on one leg - Rob Robinson - 07-31-2010 05:08

Yes I can attest to the fact that Don has "tons of expensive" stuff in his rig droooool. And yes he doesn't let the smoke get out of the box. He does however deplete my wallet on an annual basis (usually during and right after Quartzsite). His recommendations are killing me VBG


On 31 July 2010 09:55, Don Bradner <"bluethunder@arcatapet.com"> wrote:
Gary, I'm reading the 130 off the digital display for the ProSine. I have tons of expensive electronics (besides normal Blue Bird stuff) in my bus (others here can attest!) and have never had a problem.



On 7/31/2010 at 4:38 AM GARY MINKER wrote:



>Use a real voltmeter and do not trust the panel mount units. If you

>really have 130 volts you have other issues that will cause damage to the

>rest of your things.

>gary 85pt40

>

>--- On Fri, 7/30/10, Don Bradner <"bluethunder@arcatapet.com"> wrote:

>

>From: Don Bradner <"bluethunder@arcatapet.com">

>Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: AC power lost on one leg

>To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"

>Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 8:17 PM

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>      My generator is different than yours (a "Universal" only used in

>1990, I think), that runs at 130v no-load at 60Hz. If I set its speed down

>at all the voltage will drop, but so will the Hz. Under significant load

>it drops to around 128v.

>

>

>

>I've not experienced any problems except I had to set the max level for my

>inverter (ProSine 2.0) to 131 or it won't kick out of inversion mode.

>

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>Don Bradner

>

>90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"

>

>My location: www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1

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>On 7/30/2010 at 11:27 PM artw wrote:

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>>--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", "Fred Hulse" wrote:

>

>>>

>

>>> Art

>

>>> Check the circuit breakers at your panel and also you may have circuit

>

>>brkrs at the genset.

>

>>> Fred Hulse

>

>>> 97BB41

>

>>>

>

>>Ckt breakers cheched OK.

>

>>

>

>>Today I took the cover off the AC breaker panel.

>

>>I disc. the two inputs to the panel and swapped them. Started the genset

>

>>and had power to both legs. I ran it for about 20 minutes. Nothing

>

>>abnormal. I am curious as to why the main voltmeters both about 130v.

>

>>Is that in range?

>

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>

>>Art Weatherly

>

>>Riverside Ca

>

>>'85 PT36











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AC power lost on one leg - Don Bradner - 07-31-2010 06:08

Give up now! You will never catch up...

On 7/31/2010 at 10:08 AM Rob Robinson wrote:

>Yes I can attest to the fact that Don has "tons of expensive" stuff in his
>rig droooool. And yes he doesn't let the smoke get out of the box. He does
>however deplete my wallet on an annual basis (usually during and right
>after
>Quartzsite). His recommendations are killing me VBG
>
>On 31 July 2010 09:55, Don Bradner wrote:
>
>> Gary, I'm reading the 130 off the digital display for the ProSine. I have
>> tons of expensive electronics (besides normal Blue Bird stuff) in my bus
>> (others here can attest!) and have never had a problem.

AC power lost on one leg - Rob Robinson - 07-31-2010 06:41

Okay Dad, where do I send the cheque???

On 31 July 2010 11:08, Don Bradner <"bluethunder@arcatapet.com"> wrote:
 


Give up now! You will never catch up...




On 7/31/2010 at 10:08 AM Rob Robinson wrote:



>Yes I can attest to the fact that Don has "tons of expensive" stuff in his

>rig droooool. And yes he doesn't let the smoke get out of the box. He does

>however deplete my wallet on an annual basis (usually during and right

>after

>Quartzsite). His recommendations are killing me VBG

>

>On 31 July 2010 09:55, Don Bradner <"bluethunder%40arcatapet.com"> wrote:

>

>> Gary, I'm reading the 130 off the digital display for the ProSine. I have

>> tons of expensive electronics (besides normal Blue Bird stuff) in my bus

>> (others here can attest!) and have never had a problem.






--
Rob, Sue and Joey Robinson

AC power lost on one leg - Ernie Ekberg - 07-31-2010 08:33

I was in Don's coach at Quartzite. He has 4 air conditioners going to keep all that electronic "stuff" cool. I haven't a clue what all those things are with all those lites. İmage


Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Wanderlodge
Weatherford, Tx 817-475-3991

--- On Sat, 7/31/10, Don Bradner wrote:

From: Don Bradner
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: AC power lost on one leg
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 11:55 AM


Gary, I'm reading the 130 off the digital display for the ProSine. I have tons of expensive electronics (besides normal Blue Bird stuff) in my bus (others here can attest!) and have never had a problem.

On 7/31/2010 at 4:38 AM GARY MINKER wrote:

>Use a real voltmeter and do not trust the panel mount units. If you
>really have 130 volts you have other issues that will cause damage to the
>rest of your things.
>gary 85pt40
>
>--- On Fri, 7/30/10, Don Bradner <bluethunder@...> wrote:
>
>From: Don Bradner <bluethunder@...>
>Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: AC power lost on one
leg
>To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 8:17 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> My generator is different than yours (a "Universal" only used in
>1990, I think), that runs at 130v no-load at 60Hz. If I set its speed down
>at all the voltage will drop, but so will the Hz. Under significant load
>it drops to around 128v.
>
>
>
>I've not experienced any problems except I had to set the max level for my
>inverter (ProSine 2.0) to 131 or it won't kick out of inversion mode.
>
>
>
>Don
Bradner
>
>90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
>
>My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1
>
>
>
>On 7/30/2010 at 11:27 PM artw wrote:
>
>
>
>>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hulse" wrote:
>
>>>
>
>>> Art
>
>>> Check the circuit breakers at your panel and also you may have circuit
>
>>brkrs at the genset.
>
>>> Fred Hulse
>
>>> 97BB41
>
>>>
>
>>Ckt breakers cheched OK.
>
>>
>
>>Today I took the cover off the AC breaker panel.
>
>>I disc. the two inputs to the panel and swapped them. Started the genset
>
>>and had
power to both legs. I ran it for about 20 minutes. Nothing
>
>>abnormal. I am curious as to why the main voltmeters both about 130v.
>
>>Is that in range?
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>Art Weatherly
>
>>Riverside Ca
>
>>'85 PT36





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