battery update, Air Step, Primus

[randydupree2000]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Julia Bonser
wrote:have you tried turning the thermostat? that little know on the
control panel?
randy
>
> I meant as long as heat is required it operates. It stops when it
> gets to about 70 in the front where the sensor is.
> Heat is going the full length of the coach on the driver's side.
The
> fan in the galley is turned up to full but doesn't operate as
often
> as we would like. The fan under the couch operates frequently.
>
> The curb side heat circulates when we are running down the road
with
> the moto raid on so we are pretty sure the pump is working.
>
> By the way the temperature in the front this morning was 65 which
is
> 5 degrees warmer than yesterday's 60. I suspect it didn't get
quite
> as cold last night.
>
> Steve Birtles said to give him a call that he might be able to
help.
> So I will call him when we go outside to look at the system again.
>
> Julie Bonser
> 1992 WLWB PT 40'
>
>
>
> On Mar 23, 2006, at 9:03 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
>
> > By the way: When you said the rear boiler will operate as long
as
> > called on; please explain. Does it ever shut off? While in full
> > operation does it not give even heat along the entire coach
driver's
> > side? You can go the full length of the coach and feel the heat
along
> > the baseboard. Make sure that it is even all the way. Is your
fan
> > working in the galley? By running the fan on higher speeds, you
can
> > heat the coach more. Let me know the answers.
>

[ronmarabito2002]

You said that you switched to electricity. If you have the electric
emersion heaters in your boilers on the Primus, they are not as
efficient as the propane and that could be why you are not getting as
hot. Worse yet. If you are operating electric heaters in your
weather, you are probably just wasting time. They can handle moderate
cold, but not severe cold.

You further said that you found the high temp. reset in the lines
coming from the boiler. Did you go back and check to see if it had
tripped again after you got the red light on the panel. That could be
where your problem is on the other system. If it has tripped again,
then simply tie the two wires together away from the switch and then
try again. If that high temp. switch is bad, the system should now
function correctly.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Julia Bonser wrote:
>
> Yes I am sure the fan under the couch is connected to the Primus it
> comes on when the heat gets high. The electric heater is under the
> front console. The Primus is shutting down at 70 because that is
> where we have it set. It cycles on and off according to where the
> temperature is set.
>
> The rheostat for the couch is between the couch and the drivers seat
> and is turned up to maximum and the rheostat in the galley is turned
> up all the way.
>
> We usually just use the rear controlled Primus because that was
> plenty to keep us warm. We used it in Dec. and part of January and
> then decided electricity was cheaper than propane where we were
> staying. My concern is the heat output doesn't seem as hot as it
> used to.
>
> We found the high temp switches for both burners today. The rear
> burner/driver's side heat was operating we pushed the button for the
> curb side heat but when I turned on the heat it tried to ignite but
> didn't and the red light came on. I think the next thing to try and
> clear any air out of the lines.
>
> It was snowing all day today so we didn't want to take the time to go
> through the process of getting rid of air in the lines. We are
> getting by the way we are because we run the generator to recharge
> the batteries and run the electric heaters a couple of times a day. I
> don't mind the air being cool in the morning as long as it isn't much
> below 64. There have been a couple of morning where the temperature
> in the front is in the 50's.
>
> Julie Bonser
> 1992 WLWB PT 40'
>
>
>
> On Mar 23, 2006, at 5:23 PM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
>
> > Are you sure the fan under the couch is connected to the Primus.
> > As far as I knew, there was only one fan per side. Do you happen to
> > have an electric heater under the couch that is on? Since it is
> > shutting down at 70 degrees, either the Thermistor is going bad or you
> > need to turn the knob on the controller, further clockwise to get the
> > heat up more.
> >
> > There is also a rheostat in the galley that controls the fan
> > speed. Is it turned up fully?
> >
>

[Julia Bonser]

The knob on the control panel is set for the temperature we want. Why
we are concerned is we are not achieving the same temperature as
previously at the same setting. It is burning constantly all night
trying to get up to the temperature setting. When we run the
generator and have the electric heat on then when we get to about 70
the Primus shuts off. Perhaps it is a function of how cold it is at
night. The boiler felt plenty hot when we were watching it outside
today as it came on.


Julie Bonser
1992 WLWB PT 40'



On Mar 23, 2006, at 8:47 PM, randydupree2000 wrote:

> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Julia Bonser
> wrote:have you tried turning the thermostat? that little know on the
> control panel?
> randy
>>
>> I meant as long as heat is required it operates. It stops when it
>> gets to about 70 in the front where the sensor is.
>> Heat is going the full length of the coach on the driver's side.
> The
>> fan in the galley is turned up to full but doesn't operate as
> often
>> as we would like. The fan under the couch operates frequently.
>>
>> The curb side heat circulates when we are running down the road
> with
>> the moto raid on so we are pretty sure the pump is working.
>>
>> By the way the temperature in the front this morning was 65 which
> is
>> 5 degrees warmer than yesterday's 60. I suspect it didn't get
> quite
>> as cold last night.
>>
>> Steve Birtles said to give him a call that he might be able to
> help.
>> So I will call him when we go outside to look at the system again.
>>
>> Julie Bonser
>> 1992 WLWB PT 40'
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 23, 2006, at 9:03 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
>>
>>> By the way: When you said the rear boiler will operate as long
> as
>>> called on; please explain. Does it ever shut off? While in full
>>> operation does it not give even heat along the entire coach
> driver's
>>> side? You can go the full length of the coach and feel the heat
> along
>>> the baseboard. Make sure that it is even all the way. Is your
> fan
>>> working in the galley? By running the fan on higher speeds, you
> can
>>> heat the coach more. Let me know the answers.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Julia Bonser]

I should have said when we turn on the generators the electric
heaters under the console in front and in the bathroom under the
closet come on. Then between the electric heaters and the Primus the
temperature inside rises to our desired heat. I agree it has been our
experience the electric heaters don't provide enough heat when the
weather is at freezing or below. We don't have the immersion heaters
in the Primus.

On the reset buttons are they supposed to stay down once you press
them? Now Dick tells me he couldn't get the button to move. So we may
not have reset it. We will remove the wires and see if it works.

Julie Bonser
1992 WLWB PT 40'



On Mar 23, 2006, at 11:02 PM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:

> You said that you switched to electricity. If you have the electric
> emersion heaters in your boilers on the Primus, they are not as
> efficient as the propane and that could be why you are not getting as
> hot. Worse yet. If you are operating electric heaters in your
> weather, you are probably just wasting time. They can handle moderate
> cold, but not severe cold.
>
> You further said that you found the high temp. reset in the lines
> coming from the boiler. Did you go back and check to see if it had
> tripped again after you got the red light on the panel. That could be
> where your problem is on the other system. If it has tripped again,
> then simply tie the two wires together away from the switch and then
> try again. If that high temp. switch is bad, the system should now
> function correctly.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Julia Bonser
> wrote:
>>
>> Yes I am sure the fan under the couch is connected to the Primus it
>> comes on when the heat gets high. The electric heater is under the
>> front console. The Primus is shutting down at 70 because that is
>> where we have it set. It cycles on and off according to where the
>> temperature is set.
>>
>> The rheostat for the couch is between the couch and the drivers seat
>> and is turned up to maximum and the rheostat in the galley is turned
>> up all the way.
>>
>> We usually just use the rear controlled Primus because that was
>> plenty to keep us warm. We used it in Dec. and part of January and
>> then decided electricity was cheaper than propane where we were
>> staying. My concern is the heat output doesn't seem as hot as it
>> used to.
>>
>> We found the high temp switches for both burners today. The rear
>> burner/driver's side heat was operating we pushed the button for the
>> curb side heat but when I turned on the heat it tried to ignite but
>> didn't and the red light came on. I think the next thing to try and
>> clear any air out of the lines.
>>
>> It was snowing all day today so we didn't want to take the time to go
>> through the process of getting rid of air in the lines. We are
>> getting by the way we are because we run the generator to recharge
>> the batteries and run the electric heaters a couple of times a day. I
>> don't mind the air being cool in the morning as long as it isn't much
>> below 64. There have been a couple of morning where the temperature
>> in the front is in the 50's.
>>
>> Julie Bonser
>> 1992 WLWB PT 40'
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 23, 2006, at 5:23 PM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
>>
>>> Are you sure the fan under the couch is connected to the Primus.
>>> As far as I knew, there was only one fan per side. Do you happen to
>>> have an electric heater under the couch that is on? Since it is
>>> shutting down at 70 degrees, either the Thermistor is going bad
>>> or you
>>> need to turn the knob on the controller, further clockwise to get
>>> the
>>> heat up more.
>>>
>>> There is also a rheostat in the galley that controls the fan
>>> speed. Is it turned up fully?
>>>
>>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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[ronmarabito2002]

I appreciate your desire to keep the knob setting at what used to get
you to 70 degrees, but you may have to change it anyway. Whether the
system operates as efficiently as before or not and considering the
fact that the coach may not have enough insulation for your current
conditions, then turn up the heat. Suggest you mark the dial where
you like it so you can get back to it, but go ahead and turn up the
heat. You will feel better and afterall, that's what it's about.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Julia Bonser wrote:
>
> The knob on the control panel is set for the temperature we want. Why
> we are concerned is we are not achieving the same temperature as
> previously at the same setting. It is burning constantly all night
> trying to get up to the temperature setting. When we run the
> generator and have the electric heat on then when we get to about 70
> the Primus shuts off. Perhaps it is a function of how cold it is at
> night. The boiler felt plenty hot when we were watching it outside
> today as it came on.
>
>
> Julie Bonser
> 1992 WLWB PT 40'
>
>
>
> On Mar 23, 2006, at 8:47 PM, randydupree2000 wrote:
>
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Julia Bonser
> > wrote:have you tried turning the thermostat? that little know on the
> > control panel?
> > randy
> >>
> >> I meant as long as heat is required it operates. It stops when it
> >> gets to about 70 in the front where the sensor is.
> >> Heat is going the full length of the coach on the driver's side.
> > The
> >> fan in the galley is turned up to full but doesn't operate as
> > often
> >> as we would like. The fan under the couch operates frequently.
> >>
> >> The curb side heat circulates when we are running down the road
> > with
> >> the moto raid on so we are pretty sure the pump is working.
> >>
> >> By the way the temperature in the front this morning was 65 which
> > is
> >> 5 degrees warmer than yesterday's 60. I suspect it didn't get
> > quite
> >> as cold last night.
> >>
> >> Steve Birtles said to give him a call that he might be able to
> > help.
> >> So I will call him when we go outside to look at the system again.
> >>
> >> Julie Bonser
> >> 1992 WLWB PT 40'
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 23, 2006, at 9:03 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> >>
> >>> By the way: When you said the rear boiler will operate as long
> > as
> >>> called on; please explain. Does it ever shut off? While in full
> >>> operation does it not give even heat along the entire coach
> > driver's
> >>> side? You can go the full length of the coach and feel the heat
> > along
> >>> the baseboard. Make sure that it is even all the way. Is your
> > fan
> >>> working in the galley? By running the fan on higher speeds, you
> > can
> >>> heat the coach more. Let me know the answers.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

[ronmarabito2002]

Make sure you tie the wires together.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Julia Bonser wrote:
>
> I should have said when we turn on the generators the electric
> heaters under the console in front and in the bathroom under the
> closet come on. Then between the electric heaters and the Primus the
> temperature inside rises to our desired heat. I agree it has been our
> experience the electric heaters don't provide enough heat when the
> weather is at freezing or below. We don't have the immersion heaters
> in the Primus.
>
> On the reset buttons are they supposed to stay down once you press
> them? Now Dick tells me he couldn't get the button to move. So we may
> not have reset it. We will remove the wires and see if it works.
>
> Julie Bonser
> 1992 WLWB PT 40'
>
>
>
> On Mar 23, 2006, at 11:02 PM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
>
> > You said that you switched to electricity. If you have the electric
> > emersion heaters in your boilers on the Primus, they are not as
> > efficient as the propane and that could be why you are not getting as
> > hot. Worse yet. If you are operating electric heaters in your
> > weather, you are probably just wasting time. They can handle moderate
> > cold, but not severe cold.
> >
> > You further said that you found the high temp. reset in the lines
> > coming from the boiler. Did you go back and check to see if it had
> > tripped again after you got the red light on the panel. That could be
> > where your problem is on the other system. If it has tripped again,
> > then simply tie the two wires together away from the switch and then
> > try again. If that high temp. switch is bad, the system should now
> > function correctly.
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Julia Bonser
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes I am sure the fan under the couch is connected to the Primus it
> >> comes on when the heat gets high. The electric heater is under the
> >> front console. The Primus is shutting down at 70 because that is
> >> where we have it set. It cycles on and off according to where the
> >> temperature is set.
> >>
> >> The rheostat for the couch is between the couch and the drivers seat
> >> and is turned up to maximum and the rheostat in the galley is turned
> >> up all the way.
> >>
> >> We usually just use the rear controlled Primus because that was
> >> plenty to keep us warm. We used it in Dec. and part of January and
> >> then decided electricity was cheaper than propane where we were
> >> staying. My concern is the heat output doesn't seem as hot as it
> >> used to.
> >>
> >> We found the high temp switches for both burners today. The rear
> >> burner/driver's side heat was operating we pushed the button for the
> >> curb side heat but when I turned on the heat it tried to ignite but
> >> didn't and the red light came on. I think the next thing to try and
> >> clear any air out of the lines.
> >>
> >> It was snowing all day today so we didn't want to take the time to go
> >> through the process of getting rid of air in the lines. We are
> >> getting by the way we are because we run the generator to recharge
> >> the batteries and run the electric heaters a couple of times a day. I
> >> don't mind the air being cool in the morning as long as it isn't much
> >> below 64. There have been a couple of morning where the temperature
> >> in the front is in the 50's.
> >>
> >> Julie Bonser
> >> 1992 WLWB PT 40'
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 23, 2006, at 5:23 PM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> >>
> >>> Are you sure the fan under the couch is connected to the Primus.
> >>> As far as I knew, there was only one fan per side. Do you happen to
> >>> have an electric heater under the couch that is on? Since it is
> >>> shutting down at 70 degrees, either the Thermistor is going bad
> >>> or you
> >>> need to turn the knob on the controller, further clockwise to get
> >>> the
> >>> heat up more.
> >>>
> >>> There is also a rheostat in the galley that controls the fan
> >>> speed. Is it turned up fully?
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>