I have to post this

[jim riordan]

Pete,

I was thinking the same thing!

Jim Riordan

Pete Masterson wrote:
You mean your 'well' lights work with the door?

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
on the road near Evergreen CO

On Jun 9, 2007, at 8:08 PM, jwasnewski wrote:

> The entry step system on our BB's must have been high tech talking
> points in the day. After 7 hours of rewiring,installing new parts,
> troubleshooting and adjusting, making the thing work,there has to be a
> better way to open the door, extend and retract the step and turn two
> lights on and off.
>
> Regards;
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL






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[jim riordan]

Pete,

I was thinking the same thing!

Jim Riordan

Pete Masterson wrote:
You mean your 'well' lights work with the door?

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
on the road near Evergreen CO

On Jun 9, 2007, at 8:08 PM, jwasnewski wrote:

> The entry step system on our BB's must have been high tech talking
> points in the day. After 7 hours of rewiring,installing new parts,
> troubleshooting and adjusting, making the thing work,there has to be a
> better way to open the door, extend and retract the step and turn two
> lights on and off.
>
> Regards;
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL






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[Leroy Eckert]

I sent you the drawings in a seperate e-mail. I am interested how mine works
since the drawings state actuated when extended and retracted on each mercury
switch. It is not clear to me at this point.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40
Niceville, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: Wilhelmus Schreurs
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this


Leroy:
In my case I do not have mercury switches but switches nevertheless. Neither
when the step is extended or retracted is there power to the actuating solenoid.

Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
Terrace, B.C. Canada

----- Original Message ----
From: Leroy Eckert
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:04:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this

I have mine working except for an intermittant light.
I have studied the drawing so long I still don't know what is going on.
Does anyone know what happens electrically when the step is either fully
extended or fully retracted( in the park position for lack of a better phrase)Is
power totally released from the air step solenoids when the park positions are
attained? I cannot see how this could happen. If so, it would be accomplished
somehow by mercury switch position with door switches working properly, but if
the opposite mercury switch was not closed awaiting power I cannot understand
how the step would move in the opposite direction. I noticed while working on
mine that the actuating solenoids(coils they are called on the valve itself) get
faily warm which generated this question. If power is constant the appropriate
actuating coil will stay fairly warm. If this is normal I am good.
In short, is power constantly applied on the coil in its respective park
position at all times until either the aux step switch is moved or the door is
moved thereby sending power through a mercury switch to the opposite end of the
air solenoid to actuate it.
I hope this makes sense to someone.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this

On my '95, the equivalent to the step master (that holds the step out
if the coach is not running) is located on the main panel and is
labeled 'Aux. Step' with the word 'extended' below the switch to one
side. The system ignores the switch when the ignition switch is on
(the step is withdrawn unless the door is open). The well light
switch is conveniently located on the lower front panel by the steps
where you regularly bump it if you're carrying stuff (such as a
bundle of laundry) on or off the bus...

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@mac. com
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA

On Jun 10, 2007, at 7:46 PM, Ryan Wright wrote:

> I just have basic on-off "step master" and "step light" switches.
> "Step master" keeps the step out; "step light" turns them on (and
> leaves them on!). Did the older coaches have the ability to flip the
> step lights with the door?? If so, maybe mine is stuck, too.
>
> If not, I'm going to hack this feature in. :-)
>
> -Ryan
> '86 PT-40 8V92
> Tri-Cities, WA
>
> On 6/10/07, Pete Masterson wrote:
>>
>> Ok... my well light switch has 3 positions, on-off-on. I guess the
>> door switch, presumably hidden behind the fabric covering the hinge,
>> is stuck in the on position. Another project for the list...
>>
>

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[Wilhelmus Schreurs]

Leroy:
When that is mentioned, it tells you that the switch is operated either in the
extended or retracted position. I have sent you a redrawn diagram, but I have
to look at it closely.
Will do that soon. If you have any questions, email me


Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
Terrace, B.C. Canada




----- Original Message ----
From: Leroy Eckert
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:09:10 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this

I sent you the drawings in a seperate e-mail. I am interested how mine works
since the drawings state actuated when extended and retracted on each mercury
switch. It is not clear to me at this point.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40
Niceville, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: Wilhelmus Schreurs
To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this

Leroy:
In my case I do not have mercury switches but switches nevertheless. Neither
when the step is extended or retracted is there power to the actuating solenoid.

Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
Terrace, B.C. Canada

----- Original Message ----
From: Leroy Eckert
To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:04:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this

I have mine working except for an intermittant light.
I have studied the drawing so long I still don't know what is going on.
Does anyone know what happens electrically when the step is either fully
extended or fully retracted( in the park position for lack of a better phrase)Is
power totally released from the air step solenoids when the park positions are
attained? I cannot see how this could happen. If so, it would be accomplished
somehow by mercury switch position with door switches working properly, but if
the opposite mercury switch was not closed awaiting power I cannot understand
how the step would move in the opposite direction. I noticed while working on
mine that the actuating solenoids(coils they are called on the valve itself) get
faily warm which generated this question. If power is constant the appropriate
actuating coil will stay fairly warm. If this is normal I am good.
In short, is power constantly applied on the coil in its respective park
position at all times until either the aux step switch is moved or the door is
moved thereby sending power through a mercury switch to the opposite end of the
air solenoid to actuate it.
I hope this makes sense to someone.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this

On my '95, the equivalent to the step master (that holds the step out
if the coach is not running) is located on the main panel and is
labeled 'Aux. Step' with the word 'extended' below the switch to one
side. The system ignores the switch when the ignition switch is on
(the step is withdrawn unless the door is open). The well light
switch is conveniently located on the lower front panel by the steps
where you regularly bump it if you're carrying stuff (such as a
bundle of laundry) on or off the bus...

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@mac. com
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA

On Jun 10, 2007, at 7:46 PM, Ryan Wright wrote:

> I just have basic on-off "step master" and "step light" switches.
> "Step master" keeps the step out; "step light" turns them on (and
> leaves them on!). Did the older coaches have the ability to flip the
> step lights with the door?? If so, maybe mine is stuck, too.
>
> If not, I'm going to hack this feature in. :-)
>
> -Ryan
> '86 PT-40 8V92
> Tri-Cities, WA
>
> On 6/10/07, Pete Masterson wrote:
>>
>> Ok... my well light switch has 3 positions, on-off-on. I guess the
>> door switch, presumably hidden behind the fabric covering the hinge,
>> is stuck in the on position. Another project for the list...
>>
>

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