ULSD

[williamcharrison]

For what it is worth, I visited the gov. sponsored web site
http://www.clean-diesel to see what they had to say about additives
required to maintain lubricity and saw the following:

Q. Will I need to put an additive in my fuel tank to replace the
lubricity that was provided by the higher sulfur content?

A. Like Low Sulfur Diesel fuel, ULSD fuel requires good lubricity
and corrosion inhibitors to prevent unacceptable engine wear. As
necessary, additives to increase lubricity and to inhibit corrosion
will be added to ULSD fuel prior to its retail sale. With these
additives, ULSD fuel is expected to perform as well as Low Sulfur
Diesel fuel.

Q. Will ULSD fuel affect the performance of my vehicle?

A. Engine and vehicle manufacturers expect ULSD fuel to be fully
compatible with the existing fleet, including 2006 and earlier model
year vehicles. In some instances, the introduction of ULSD fuel to
older vehicles may affect fuel system components or loosen deposits
in fuel tanks. As part of a good maintenance program, owners and
operators of existing cars, trucks and buses are encouraged to
monitor their diesel-powered vehicles closely for potential fuel
system leaks or premature fuel filter plugging during the change-
over to ULSD fuel.

I hope this does not just add to the controversy.

Chuck Harrison
90SP36
Akron, Ohio

[Jeff Miller]

This is the most clear and neutral information that I've found so
far (cut and past if you need to):

<http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collec...comm/info-
notices/2006/in200622.pdf>

- Jeff Miller
in Holland, MI


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "williamcharrison"
wrote:
>
> For what it is worth, I visited the gov. sponsored web site
> http://www.clean-diesel to see what they had to say about additives
> required to maintain lubricity and saw the following:
>
> Q. Will I need to put an additive in my fuel tank to replace the
> lubricity that was provided by the higher sulfur content?
>
> A. Like Low Sulfur Diesel fuel, ULSD fuel requires good lubricity
> and corrosion inhibitors to prevent unacceptable engine wear. As
> necessary, additives to increase lubricity and to inhibit
corrosion
> will be added to ULSD fuel prior to its retail sale. With these
> additives, ULSD fuel is expected to perform as well as Low Sulfur
> Diesel fuel.
>
> Q. Will ULSD fuel affect the performance of my vehicle?
>
> A. Engine and vehicle manufacturers expect ULSD fuel to be fully
> compatible with the existing fleet, including 2006 and earlier
model
> year vehicles. In some instances, the introduction of ULSD fuel to
> older vehicles may affect fuel system components or loosen
deposits
> in fuel tanks. As part of a good maintenance program, owners and
> operators of existing cars, trucks and buses are encouraged to
> monitor their diesel-powered vehicles closely for potential fuel
> system leaks or premature fuel filter plugging during the change-
> over to ULSD fuel.
>
> I hope this does not just add to the controversy.
>
> Chuck Harrison
> 90SP36
> Akron, Ohio
>

[Gregory OConnor]

Chuck, The hype was started by those companies selling the
additives. I buy 700 to 1,200 gallons of diesel a month and dont
plan on doing anything other than dumping ATF in the mix as I always
did. My 3208 trucks (now replaced) all had over 300,000 miles and
Injection pumps were rebuilt several times even with the old fuel.
Folks are gonna blame necessary repairs of fuel systems to the new
formula. In place of buying $240.00 worth of additive a month I am
going to sit it out and just save for an upgrade seal replacement
rebuild of the pump. If the pump fails in 8 months and cost less than
$2,000, I'm good. If not, I'll let you know. Rebuild Injection pump,
run rack, adjust valves on a 3208 cost me $1300 in 1999.
Gregory O'Connor
94ptRomolandca

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "williamcharrison"
wrote:
>
> For what it is worth, I visited the gov. sponsored web site
> http://www.clean-diesel to see what they had to say about additives
> required to maintain lubricity and saw the following:
>
> Q. Will I need to put an additive in my fuel tank to replace the
> lubricity that was provided by the higher sulfur content?
>
> A. Like Low Sulfur Diesel fuel, ULSD fuel requires good lubricity
> and corrosion inhibitors to prevent unacceptable engine wear. As
> necessary, additives to increase lubricity and to inhibit corrosion
> will be added to ULSD fuel prior to its retail sale. With these
> additives, ULSD fuel is expected to perform as well as Low Sulfur
> Diesel fuel.
>
> Q. Will ULSD fuel affect the performance of my vehicle?
>
> A. Engine and vehicle manufacturers expect ULSD fuel to be fully
> compatible with the existing fleet, including 2006 and earlier
model
> year vehicles. In some instances, the introduction of ULSD fuel to
> older vehicles may affect fuel system components or loosen deposits
> in fuel tanks. As part of a good maintenance program, owners and
> operators of existing cars, trucks and buses are encouraged to
> monitor their diesel-powered vehicles closely for potential fuel
> system leaks or premature fuel filter plugging during the change-
> over to ULSD fuel.
>
> I hope this does not just add to the controversy.
>
> Chuck Harrison
> 90SP36
> Akron, Ohio
>

[Mike Hohnstein]

A lot of consumer types think a diesel will "live forever", and on and on it
goes. There is a real good reason I am the proud owner of a pretty nice
Airstream 345 P 30 454 GAS engine motorhome. It has a whole lot to do with the
fuel situation these days, don't think it is going to be cool for a while. Not
ready to lose my diesel yet but it might get to a point of diminishing returns
if the "greens" and the yahoos from Sacramento keep it up.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Gregory OConnor
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 5:07 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: ULSD


Chuck, The hype was started by those companies selling the
additives. I buy 700 to 1,200 gallons of diesel a month and dont
plan on doing anything other than dumping ATF in the mix as I always
did. My 3208 trucks (now replaced) all had over 300,000 miles and
Injection pumps were rebuilt several times even with the old fuel.
Folks are gonna blame necessary repairs of fuel systems to the new
formula. In place of buying $240.00 worth of additive a month I am
going to sit it out and just save for an upgrade seal replacement
rebuild of the pump. If the pump fails in 8 months and cost less than
$2,000, I'm good. If not, I'll let you know. Rebuild Injection pump,
run rack, adjust valves on a 3208 cost me $1300 in 1999.
Gregory O'Connor
94ptRomolandca

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "williamcharrison"
wrote:
>
> For what it is worth, I visited the gov. sponsored web site
> http://www.clean-diesel to see what they had to say about additives
> required to maintain lubricity and saw the following:
>
> Q. Will I need to put an additive in my fuel tank to replace the
> lubricity that was provided by the higher sulfur content?
>
> A. Like Low Sulfur Diesel fuel, ULSD fuel requires good lubricity
> and corrosion inhibitors to prevent unacceptable engine wear. As
> necessary, additives to increase lubricity and to inhibit corrosion
> will be added to ULSD fuel prior to its retail sale. With these
> additives, ULSD fuel is expected to perform as well as Low Sulfur
> Diesel fuel.
>
> Q. Will ULSD fuel affect the performance of my vehicle?
>
> A. Engine and vehicle manufacturers expect ULSD fuel to be fully
> compatible with the existing fleet, including 2006 and earlier
model
> year vehicles. In some instances, the introduction of ULSD fuel to
> older vehicles may affect fuel system components or loosen deposits
> in fuel tanks. As part of a good maintenance program, owners and
> operators of existing cars, trucks and buses are encouraged to
> monitor their diesel-powered vehicles closely for potential fuel
> system leaks or premature fuel filter plugging during the change-
> over to ULSD fuel.
>
> I hope this does not just add to the controversy.
>
> Chuck Harrison
> 90SP36
> Akron, Ohio
>





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