Aux Batt solenoid on PT

[Curt Sprenger]

Battery with no charge to it for about 20 minutes, approx 12.6 volts is
good. Battery receiving a charge, 13.4+ volts...unless you have the
smart chargers that are in the sleep mode.

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Scott Forman wrote:

> And what voltage should it show when charging?
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> , "pattypape"
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > TO be assured that the gen battery is charging under all
> conditions,
> > check with the shore power, then generator running , then the
> engine
> > alternator running and charging.
> >
> > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> , "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Isn't it all one circuit?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> , Curt Sprenger
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Agree. Good.
> > > >
> > > > Do the same test using shore power.
> > > >
> > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > OK, the voltage went up with the gen running. So I guess the
> > > circuit
> > > > > works.
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > Have you used your multimeter and checked the voltage at
> the
> > > gen.
> > > > > > battery? First before you start the gen. Than again after
> the
> > > gen.
> > > > > is
> > > > > > running. The increase in voltage when the gen. is running
> > tells
> > > > > you
> > > > > > that the charge circuit is working. No change in voltage, or
> > > > > lower,
> > > > > > you know the charge is not working.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hmmm..."what is your problem"...there's a wide ranging
> > > > > question....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Really I don't have a problem right now. I am just trying
> > to
> > > learn
> > > > > > > my new coach. I knew my old FC inside and out, and that
> > gave
> > > me
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > confidence that if I ever had a problem on the road,
> maybe
> > I
> > > could
> > > > > > > diagnose it & fix it. I want to feel that way about my
> PT,
> > > too. I
> > > > > > > also want to make sure that the charging circuit is
> > charging
> > > the
> > > > > > > generator battery as it is supposed to.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > , > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > May I be so bold as to ask what is your problem?
> > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 08:17:02 EDT
> > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Aux Batt solenoid on
> PT
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > OK...a little help...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There are solenoids all over the place. There's one
> on
> > the
> > > > > front
> > > > > > > > > wall of the batter charger compartment. There are two
> > > others
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > metal panel that folds down to give access to the
> > charger
> > > > > > > > > compartment. And there are three of them behind the
> > step
> > > well,
> > > > > > > > > although it looks like two of them are for the
> leveling
> > > pump.
> > > > > > > None
> > > > > > > > > of these make the audible "click" when I hit the Aux
> > Batt
> > > > > > > switch.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The drawings in my Blue Box aren't as comprehensive
> as
> > > they
> > > > > were
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > my FC, so I am having trouble figuring all this out.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Help!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > , > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > On my 86 PT40 mine is in the compartment with the
> > > chargers.
> > > > > But
> > > > > > > > > knowing BB and your coach being a 38 footer it may be
> > > > > different.
> > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 02:53:55 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Aux Batt solenoid on
> PT
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Where is the auxillary battery solenoid on a PT?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
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[Tom Warner]

In my opinion you are making the issue of whether the generator
battery is being charged or not, overly complicated. If you check
the generator battery terminal with a voltmeter while the engine is
turned off and the charger is turned off and note the voltage and
then turn the charger on and you see a voltage increase at the
generator battery terminals then the generator charging circuit is
working. All charging sources are tied together at the positive
battery stud , in back of the battery box on the FC models and above
the engine on the PTs. If you want to discuss if the generator
battery is being fully charged then that is a different issue
entirely and more complicated. Therefore I believe Mr Forman is
correct there is only one circuit when it comes to charging the
generator battery. If you want to talk about what level the generator
battery is being charged to that is a different issue.

tom warner
vernon center,ny
1985 PT 40

,

.At 07:29 PM 5/27/2007, you wrote:
>Absolutely correct Bill.
>
>Curt Sprenger
>1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
>Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
>
>
>pattypape wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > TO be assured that the gen battery is charging under all conditions,
> > check with the shore power, then generator running , then the engine
> > alternator running and charging.
> >
> > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > , "Scott Forman" <sforman@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Isn't it all one circuit?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > , Curt Sprenger
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Agree. Good.
> > > >
> > > > Do the same test using shore power.
> > > >
> > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > OK, the voltage went up with the gen running. So I guess the
> > > circuit
> > > > > works.
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > Have you used your multimeter and checked the voltage at the
> > > gen.
> > > > > > battery? First before you start the gen. Than again after the
> > > gen.
> > > > > is
> > > > > > running. The increase in voltage when the gen. is running
> > tells
> > > > > you
> > > > > > that the charge circuit is working. No change in voltage, or
> > > > > lower,
> > > > > > you know the charge is not working.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hmmm..."what is your problem"...there's a wide ranging
> > > > > question....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Really I don't have a problem right now. I am just trying
> > to
> > > learn
> > > > > > > my new coach. I knew my old FC inside and out, and that
> > gave
> > > me
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > confidence that if I ever had a problem on the road, maybe
> > I
> > > could
> > > > > > > diagnose it & fix it. I want to feel that way about my PT,
> > > too. I
> > > > > > > also want to make sure that the charging circuit is
> > charging
> > > the
> > > > > > > generator battery as it is supposed to.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > , > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > May I be so bold as to ask what is your problem?
> > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 08:17:02 EDT
> > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Aux Batt solenoid on PT
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > OK...a little help...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There are solenoids all over the place. There's one on
> > the
> > > > > front
> > > > > > > > > wall of the batter charger compartment. There are two
> > > others
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > metal panel that folds down to give access to the
> > charger
> > > > > > > > > compartment. And there are three of them behind the
> > step
> > > well,
> > > > > > > > > although it looks like two of them are for the leveling
> > > pump.
> > > > > > > None
> > > > > > > > > of these make the audible "click" when I hit the Aux
> > Batt
> > > > > > > switch.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The drawings in my Blue Box aren't as comprehensive as
> > > they
> > > > > were
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > my FC, so I am having trouble figuring all this out.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Help!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > , > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > On my 86 PT40 mine is in the compartment with the
> > > chargers.
> > > > > But
> > > > > > > > > knowing BB and your coach being a 38 footer it may be
> > > > > different.
> > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 02:53:55 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
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> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Aux Batt solenoid on PT
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Where is the auxillary battery solenoid on a PT?
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[Scott Forman]

the gen batt read 12.1 before I started it, 12.4 after it was
running. I know that by the book 12.1v is a half-dead battery, but
it cranks awfully strong to be half dead. And the 12.4 isn't as high
as it should be, but since it is higher there is obviously some
charge getting to it...ideas?

Another note...my multimeter has two "modes" that I don't really
understand. When I turn the dial to one setting, it read 12.4 with
generator running, on the other setting it read 26.5. Any idea what
this other mode is showing me?

Much confusions over here

Scott

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger
wrote:
>
> Battery with no charge to it for about 20 minutes, approx 12.6
volts is
> good. Battery receiving a charge, 13.4+ volts...unless you have the
> smart chargers that are in the sleep mode.
>
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
>
>
> Scott Forman wrote:
>
> > And what voltage should it show when charging?
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > , "pattypape"

> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > TO be assured that the gen battery is charging under all
> > conditions,
> > > check with the shore power, then generator running , then the
> > engine
> > > alternator running and charging.
> > >
> > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > , "Scott Forman"
<sforman@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Isn't it all one circuit?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > , Curt Sprenger
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Agree. Good.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do the same test using shore power.
> > > > >
> > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > OK, the voltage went up with the gen running. So I guess
the
> > > > circuit
> > > > > > works.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > Have you used your multimeter and checked the voltage at
> > the
> > > > gen.
> > > > > > > battery? First before you start the gen. Than again
after
> > the
> > > > gen.
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > running. The increase in voltage when the gen. is
running
> > > tells
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > that the charge circuit is working. No change in
voltage, or
> > > > > > lower,
> > > > > > > you know the charge is not working.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hmmm..."what is your problem"...there's a wide ranging
> > > > > > question....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Really I don't have a problem right now. I am just
trying
> > > to
> > > > learn
> > > > > > > > my new coach. I knew my old FC inside and out, and
that
> > > gave
> > > > me
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > confidence that if I ever had a problem on the road,
> > maybe
> > > I
> > > > could
> > > > > > > > diagnose it & fix it. I want to feel that way about my
> > PT,
> > > > too. I
> > > > > > > > also want to make sure that the charging circuit is
> > > charging
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > generator battery as it is supposed to.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ,
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > May I be so bold as to ask what is your problem?
> > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 08:17:02 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Aux Batt solenoid
on
> > PT
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > OK...a little help...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > There are solenoids all over the place. There's
one
> > on
> > > the
> > > > > > front
> > > > > > > > > > wall of the batter charger compartment. There are
two
> > > > others
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > metal panel that folds down to give access to the
> > > charger
> > > > > > > > > > compartment. And there are three of them behind
the
> > > step
> > > > well,
> > > > > > > > > > although it looks like two of them are for the
> > leveling
> > > > pump.
> > > > > > > > None
> > > > > > > > > > of these make the audible "click" when I hit the
Aux
> > > Batt
> > > > > > > > switch.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The drawings in my Blue Box aren't as
comprehensive
> > as
> > > > they
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > my FC, so I am having trouble figuring all this
out.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Help!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ,
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > On my 86 PT40 mine is in the compartment with
the
> > > > chargers.
> > > > > > But
> > > > > > > > > > knowing BB and your coach being a 38 footer it
may be
> > > > > > different.
> > > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 02:53:55 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Aux Batt solenoid
on
> > PT
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Where is the auxillary battery solenoid on a
PT?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
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[Curt Sprenger]

Scott,

A bad battery could cause the 12.4 reading. Remove the battery, take it
to an auto parts store, have them load test it. Could be a bad cell in
the battery. I've experience battereis with a bad cell start engines,
and then just die on the spot.

What are the "modes" on your multimeter that you are using?

We are here to help. Just keep the communication coming.

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Scott Forman wrote:

> the gen batt read 12.1 before I started it, 12.4 after it was
> running. I know that by the book 12.1v is a half-dead battery, but
> it cranks awfully strong to be half dead. And the 12.4 isn't as high
> as it should be, but since it is higher there is obviously some
> charge getting to it...ideas?
>
> Another note...my multimeter has two "modes" that I don't really
> understand. When I turn the dial to one setting, it read 12.4 with
> generator running, on the other setting it read 26.5. Any idea what
> this other mode is showing me?
>
> Much confusions over here
>
> Scott
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> , Curt Sprenger
> wrote:
> >
> > Battery with no charge to it for about 20 minutes, approx 12.6
> volts is
> > good. Battery receiving a charge, 13.4+ volts...unless you have the
> > smart chargers that are in the sleep mode.
> >
> > Curt Sprenger
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott Forman wrote:
> >
> > > And what voltage should it show when charging?
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > , "pattypape"
>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > TO be assured that the gen battery is charging under all
> > > conditions,
> > > > check with the shore power, then generator running , then the
> > > engine
> > > > alternator running and charging.
> > > >
> > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > , "Scott Forman"
> <sforman@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Isn't it all one circuit?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Agree. Good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do the same test using shore power.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > OK, the voltage went up with the gen running. So I guess
> the
> > > > > circuit
> > > > > > > works.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > > > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > Have you used your multimeter and checked the voltage at
> > > the
> > > > > gen.
> > > > > > > > battery? First before you start the gen. Than again
> after
> > > the
> > > > > gen.
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > running. The increase in voltage when the gen. is
> running
> > > > tells
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > that the charge circuit is working. No change in
> voltage, or
> > > > > > > lower,
> > > > > > > > you know the charge is not working.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hmmm..."what is your problem"...there's a wide ranging
> > > > > > > question....
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Really I don't have a problem right now. I am just
> trying
> > > > to
> > > > > learn
> > > > > > > > > my new coach. I knew my old FC inside and out, and
> that
> > > > gave
> > > > > me
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > confidence that if I ever had a problem on the road,
> > > maybe
> > > > I
> > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > diagnose it & fix it. I want to feel that way about my
> > > PT,
> > > > > too. I
> > > > > > > > > also want to make sure that the charging circuit is
> > > > charging
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > generator battery as it is supposed to.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > May I be so bold as to ask what is your problem?
> > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 08:17:02 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Aux Batt solenoid
> on
> > > PT
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > OK...a little help...
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > There are solenoids all over the place. There's
> one
> > > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > > front
> > > > > > > > > > > wall of the batter charger compartment. There are
> two
> > > > > others
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > metal panel that folds down to give access to the
> > > > charger
> > > > > > > > > > > compartment. And there are three of them behind
> the
> > > > step
> > > > > well,
> > > > > > > > > > > although it looks like two of them are for the
> > > leveling
> > > > > pump.
> > > > > > > > > None
> > > > > > > > > > > of these make the audible "click" when I hit the
> Aux
> > > > Batt
> > > > > > > > > switch.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The drawings in my Blue Box aren't as
> comprehensive
> > > as
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > my FC, so I am having trouble figuring all this
> out.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Help!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > > On my 86 PT40 mine is in the compartment with
> the
> > > > > chargers.
> > > > > > > But
> > > > > > > > > > > knowing BB and your coach being a 38 footer it
> may be
> > > > > > > different.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 02:53:55 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Aux Batt solenoid
> on
> > > PT
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Where is the auxillary battery solenoid on a
> PT?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

[Scott Forman]

The modes are marked by a V followd by 3 dots in one mode and a V
with a wavy line for the other. Doesn't help much, huh?



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger
wrote:
>
> Scott,
>
> A bad battery could cause the 12.4 reading. Remove the battery,
take it
> to an auto parts store, have them load test it. Could be a bad cell
in
> the battery. I've experience battereis with a bad cell start
engines,
> and then just die on the spot.
>
> What are the "modes" on your multimeter that you are using?
>
> We are here to help. Just keep the communication coming.
>
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
>
>
> Scott Forman wrote:
>
> > the gen batt read 12.1 before I started it, 12.4 after it was
> > running. I know that by the book 12.1v is a half-dead battery, but
> > it cranks awfully strong to be half dead. And the 12.4 isn't as
high
> > as it should be, but since it is higher there is obviously some
> > charge getting to it...ideas?
> >
> > Another note...my multimeter has two "modes" that I don't really
> > understand. When I turn the dial to one setting, it read 12.4 with
> > generator running, on the other setting it read 26.5. Any idea
what
> > this other mode is showing me?
> >
> > Much confusions over here
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > , Curt Sprenger
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Battery with no charge to it for about 20 minutes, approx 12.6
> > volts is
> > > good. Battery receiving a charge, 13.4+ volts...unless you have
the
> > > smart chargers that are in the sleep mode.
> > >
> > > Curt Sprenger
> > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > >
> > > > And what voltage should it show when charging?
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > , "pattypape"
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > TO be assured that the gen battery is charging under all
> > > > conditions,
> > > > > check with the shore power, then generator running , then
the
> > > > engine
> > > > > alternator running and charging.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > , "Scott Forman"
> > <sforman@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Isn't it all one circuit?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Agree. Good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do the same test using shore power.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > OK, the voltage went up with the gen running. So I
guess
> > the
> > > > > > circuit
> > > > > > > > works.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > , Curt
Sprenger
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > Have you used your multimeter and checked the
voltage at
> > > > the
> > > > > > gen.
> > > > > > > > > battery? First before you start the gen. Than again
> > after
> > > > the
> > > > > > gen.
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > running. The increase in voltage when the gen. is
> > running
> > > > > tells
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > that the charge circuit is working. No change in
> > voltage, or
> > > > > > > > lower,
> > > > > > > > > you know the charge is not working.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hmmm..."what is your problem"...there's a wide
ranging
> > > > > > > > question....
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Really I don't have a problem right now. I am just
> > trying
> > > > > to
> > > > > > learn
> > > > > > > > > > my new coach. I knew my old FC inside and out, and
> > that
> > > > > gave
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > confidence that if I ever had a problem on the
road,
> > > > maybe
> > > > > I
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > diagnose it & fix it. I want to feel that way
about my
> > > > PT,
> > > > > > too. I
> > > > > > > > > > also want to make sure that the charging circuit
is
> > > > > charging
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > generator battery as it is supposed to.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > May I be so bold as to ask what is your problem?
> > > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 08:17:02 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Aux Batt
solenoid
> > on
> > > > PT
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > OK...a little help...
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > There are solenoids all over the place.
There's
> > one
> > > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > front
> > > > > > > > > > > > wall of the batter charger compartment. There
are
> > two
> > > > > > others
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > metal panel that folds down to give access to
the
> > > > > charger
> > > > > > > > > > > > compartment. And there are three of them
behind
> > the
> > > > > step
> > > > > > well,
> > > > > > > > > > > > although it looks like two of them are for the
> > > > leveling
> > > > > > pump.
> > > > > > > > > > None
> > > > > > > > > > > > of these make the audible "click" when I hit
the
> > Aux
> > > > > Batt
> > > > > > > > > > switch.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The drawings in my Blue Box aren't as
> > comprehensive
> > > > as
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > my FC, so I am having trouble figuring all
this
> > out.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Help!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On my 86 PT40 mine is in the compartment
with
> > the
> > > > > > chargers.
> > > > > > > > But
> > > > > > > > > > > > knowing BB and your coach being a 38 footer it
> > may be
> > > > > > > > different.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 02:53:55 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Aux Batt
solenoid
> > on
> > > > PT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where is the auxillary battery solenoid
on a
> > PT?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

[Curt Sprenger]

Dots + DC Volts. Wavy line + AC Volts.

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Scott Forman wrote:

> The modes are marked by a V followd by 3 dots in one mode and a V
> with a wavy line for the other. Doesn't help much, huh?
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> , Curt Sprenger
> wrote:
> >
> > Scott,
> >
> > A bad battery could cause the 12.4 reading. Remove the battery,
> take it
> > to an auto parts store, have them load test it. Could be a bad cell
> in
> > the battery. I've experience battereis with a bad cell start
> engines,
> > and then just die on the spot.
> >
> > What are the "modes" on your multimeter that you are using?
> >
> > We are here to help. Just keep the communication coming.
> >
> > Curt Sprenger
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott Forman wrote:
> >
> > > the gen batt read 12.1 before I started it, 12.4 after it was
> > > running. I know that by the book 12.1v is a half-dead battery, but
> > > it cranks awfully strong to be half dead. And the 12.4 isn't as
> high
> > > as it should be, but since it is higher there is obviously some
> > > charge getting to it...ideas?
> > >
> > > Another note...my multimeter has two "modes" that I don't really
> > > understand. When I turn the dial to one setting, it read 12.4 with
> > > generator running, on the other setting it read 26.5. Any idea
> what
> > > this other mode is showing me?
> > >
> > > Much confusions over here
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Battery with no charge to it for about 20 minutes, approx 12.6
> > > volts is
> > > > good. Battery receiving a charge, 13.4+ volts...unless you have
> the
> > > > smart chargers that are in the sleep mode.
> > > >
> > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > And what voltage should it show when charging?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > > , "pattypape"
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TO be assured that the gen battery is charging under all
> > > > > conditions,
> > > > > > check with the shore power, then generator running , then
> the
> > > > > engine
> > > > > > alternator running and charging.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > > , "Scott Forman"
> > > <sforman@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Isn't it all one circuit?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Agree. Good.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do the same test using shore power.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > OK, the voltage went up with the gen running. So I
> guess
> > > the
> > > > > > > circuit
> > > > > > > > > works.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > , Curt
> Sprenger
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > Have you used your multimeter and checked the
> voltage at
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > gen.
> > > > > > > > > > battery? First before you start the gen. Than again
> > > after
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > gen.
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > running. The increase in voltage when the gen. is
> > > running
> > > > > > tells
> > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > that the charge circuit is working. No change in
> > > voltage, or
> > > > > > > > > lower,
> > > > > > > > > > you know the charge is not working.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm..."what is your problem"...there's a wide
> ranging
> > > > > > > > > question....
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Really I don't have a problem right now. I am just
> > > trying
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > learn
> > > > > > > > > > > my new coach. I knew my old FC inside and out, and
> > > that
> > > > > > gave
> > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > confidence that if I ever had a problem on the
> road,
> > > > > maybe
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > > diagnose it & fix it. I want to feel that way
> about my
> > > > > PT,
> > > > > > > too. I
> > > > > > > > > > > also want to make sure that the charging circuit
> is
> > > > > > charging
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > generator battery as it is supposed to.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > > May I be so bold as to ask what is your problem?
> > > > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 08:17:02 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Aux Batt
> solenoid
> > > on
> > > > > PT
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > OK...a little help...
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > There are solenoids all over the place.
> There's
> > > one
> > > > > on
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > front
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wall of the batter charger compartment. There
> are
> > > two
> > > > > > > others
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > metal panel that folds down to give access to
> the
> > > > > > charger
> > > > > > > > > > > > > compartment. And there are three of them
> behind
> > > the
> > > > > > step
> > > > > > > well,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > although it looks like two of them are for the
> > > > > leveling
> > > > > > > pump.
> > > > > > > > > > > None
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of these make the audible "click" when I hit
> the
> > > Aux
> > > > > > Batt
> > > > > > > > > > > switch.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The drawings in my Blue Box aren't as
> > > comprehensive
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > my FC, so I am having trouble figuring all
> this
> > > out.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Help!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On my 86 PT40 mine is in the compartment
> with
> > > the
> > > > > > > chargers.
> > > > > > > > > But
> > > > > > > > > > > > > knowing BB and your coach being a 38 footer it
> > > may be
> > > > > > > > > different.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 02:53:55 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Aux Batt
> solenoid
> > > on
> > > > > PT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where is the auxillary battery solenoid
> on a
> > > PT?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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>
>

[Curt Sprenger]

Sorry. Change the + to =.

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Curt Sprenger wrote:

> Dots + DC Volts. Wavy line + AC Volts.
>
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
> Scott Forman wrote:
>
> > The modes are marked by a V followd by 3 dots in one mode and a V
> > with a wavy line for the other. Doesn't help much, huh?
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > , Curt Sprenger
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Scott,
> > >
> > > A bad battery could cause the 12.4 reading. Remove the battery,
> > take it
> > > to an auto parts store, have them load test it. Could be a bad cell
> > in
> > > the battery. I've experience battereis with a bad cell start
> > engines,
> > > and then just die on the spot.
> > >
> > > What are the "modes" on your multimeter that you are using?
> > >
> > > We are here to help. Just keep the communication coming.
> > >
> > > Curt Sprenger
> > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > >
> > > > the gen batt read 12.1 before I started it, 12.4 after it was
> > > > running. I know that by the book 12.1v is a half-dead battery, but
> > > > it cranks awfully strong to be half dead. And the 12.4 isn't as
> > high
> > > > as it should be, but since it is higher there is obviously some
> > > > charge getting to it...ideas?
> > > >
> > > > Another note...my multimeter has two "modes" that I don't really
> > > > understand. When I turn the dial to one setting, it read 12.4 with
> > > > generator running, on the other setting it read 26.5. Any idea
> > what
> > > > this other mode is showing me?
> > > >
> > > > Much confusions over here
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
> > > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Battery with no charge to it for about 20 minutes, approx 12.6
> > > > volts is
> > > > > good. Battery receiving a charge, 13.4+ volts...unless you have
> > the
> > > > > smart chargers that are in the sleep mode.
> > > > >
> > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > And what voltage should it show when charging?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > , "pattypape"
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > TO be assured that the gen battery is charging under all
> > > > > > conditions,
> > > > > > > check with the shore power, then generator running , then
> > the
> > > > > > engine
> > > > > > > alternator running and charging.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > , "Scott Forman"
> > > > <sforman@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Isn't it all one circuit?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Agree. Good.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Do the same test using shore power.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > OK, the voltage went up with the gen running. So I
> > guess
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > circuit
> > > > > > > > > > works.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > , Curt
> > Sprenger
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > Have you used your multimeter and checked the
> > voltage at
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > gen.
> > > > > > > > > > > battery? First before you start the gen. Than again
> > > > after
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > gen.
> > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > running. The increase in voltage when the gen. is
> > > > running
> > > > > > > tells
> > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > that the charge circuit is working. No change in
> > > > voltage, or
> > > > > > > > > > lower,
> > > > > > > > > > > you know the charge is not working.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm..."what is your problem"...there's a wide
> > ranging
> > > > > > > > > > question....
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Really I don't have a problem right now. I am just
> > > > trying
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > learn
> > > > > > > > > > > > my new coach. I knew my old FC inside and out, and
> > > > that
> > > > > > > gave
> > > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > confidence that if I ever had a problem on the
> > road,
> > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > > > diagnose it & fix it. I want to feel that way
> > about my
> > > > > > PT,
> > > > > > > > too. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > also want to make sure that the charging circuit
> > is
> > > > > > > charging
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > generator battery as it is supposed to.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > May I be so bold as to ask what is your problem?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 08:17:02 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Aux Batt
> > solenoid
> > > > on
> > > > > > PT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK...a little help...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are solenoids all over the place.
> > There's
> > > > one
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > front
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wall of the batter charger compartment. There
> > are
> > > > two
> > > > > > > > others
> > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > metal panel that folds down to give access to
> > the
> > > > > > > charger
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > compartment. And there are three of them
> > behind
> > > > the
> > > > > > > step
> > > > > > > > well,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > although it looks like two of them are for the
> > > > > > leveling
> > > > > > > > pump.
> > > > > > > > > > > > None
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of these make the audible "click" when I hit
> > the
> > > > Aux
> > > > > > > Batt
> > > > > > > > > > > > switch.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The drawings in my Blue Box aren't as
> > > > comprehensive
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > my FC, so I am having trouble figuring all
> > this
> > > > out.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On my 86 PT40 mine is in the compartment
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > chargers.
> > > > > > > > > > But
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > knowing BB and your coach being a 38 footer it
> > > > may be
> > > > > > > > > > different.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 02:53:55 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Aux Batt
> > solenoid
> > > > on
> > > > > > PT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where is the auxillary battery solenoid
> > on a
> > > > PT?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
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[Scott Forman]

OK...why does a 12v DC battery show AC voltage?

I used to think I understood vehicle electrical systems....



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger
wrote:
>
> Dots + DC Volts. Wavy line + AC Volts.
>
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
>
>
> Scott Forman wrote:
>
> > The modes are marked by a V followd by 3 dots in one mode and a V
> > with a wavy line for the other. Doesn't help much, huh?
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > , Curt Sprenger
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Scott,
> > >
> > > A bad battery could cause the 12.4 reading. Remove the battery,
> > take it
> > > to an auto parts store, have them load test it. Could be a bad
cell
> > in
> > > the battery. I've experience battereis with a bad cell start
> > engines,
> > > and then just die on the spot.
> > >
> > > What are the "modes" on your multimeter that you are using?
> > >
> > > We are here to help. Just keep the communication coming.
> > >
> > > Curt Sprenger
> > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > >
> > > > the gen batt read 12.1 before I started it, 12.4 after it was
> > > > running. I know that by the book 12.1v is a half-dead
battery, but
> > > > it cranks awfully strong to be half dead. And the 12.4 isn't
as
> > high
> > > > as it should be, but since it is higher there is obviously
some
> > > > charge getting to it...ideas?
> > > >
> > > > Another note...my multimeter has two "modes" that I don't
really
> > > > understand. When I turn the dial to one setting, it read 12.4
with
> > > > generator running, on the other setting it read 26.5. Any idea
> > what
> > > > this other mode is showing me?
> > > >
> > > > Much confusions over here
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Battery with no charge to it for about 20 minutes, approx
12.6
> > > > volts is
> > > > > good. Battery receiving a charge, 13.4+ volts...unless you
have
> > the
> > > > > smart chargers that are in the sleep mode.
> > > > >
> > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > And what voltage should it show when charging?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > , "pattypape"
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > TO be assured that the gen battery is charging under all
> > > > > > conditions,
> > > > > > > check with the shore power, then generator running ,
then
> > the
> > > > > > engine
> > > > > > > alternator running and charging.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > , "Scott
Forman"
> > > > <sforman@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Isn't it all one circuit?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Agree. Good.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Do the same test using shore power.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > OK, the voltage went up with the gen running. So I
> > guess
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > circuit
> > > > > > > > > > works.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > , Curt
> > Sprenger
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > Have you used your multimeter and checked the
> > voltage at
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > gen.
> > > > > > > > > > > battery? First before you start the gen. Than
again
> > > > after
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > gen.
> > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > running. The increase in voltage when the gen.
is
> > > > running
> > > > > > > tells
> > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > that the charge circuit is working. No change in
> > > > voltage, or
> > > > > > > > > > lower,
> > > > > > > > > > > you know the charge is not working.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm..."what is your problem"...there's a wide
> > ranging
> > > > > > > > > > question....
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Really I don't have a problem right now. I am
just
> > > > trying
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > learn
> > > > > > > > > > > > my new coach. I knew my old FC inside and
out, and
> > > > that
> > > > > > > gave
> > > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > confidence that if I ever had a problem on the
> > road,
> > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > > > diagnose it & fix it. I want to feel that way
> > about my
> > > > > > PT,
> > > > > > > > too. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > also want to make sure that the charging
circuit
> > is
> > > > > > > charging
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > generator battery as it is supposed to.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > May I be so bold as to ask what is your
problem?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 08:17:02 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Aux Batt
> > solenoid
> > > > on
> > > > > > PT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK...a little help...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are solenoids all over the place.
> > There's
> > > > one
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > front
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wall of the batter charger compartment.
There
> > are
> > > > two
> > > > > > > > others
> > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > metal panel that folds down to give
access to
> > the
> > > > > > > charger
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > compartment. And there are three of them
> > behind
> > > > the
> > > > > > > step
> > > > > > > > well,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > although it looks like two of them are
for the
> > > > > > leveling
> > > > > > > > pump.
> > > > > > > > > > > > None
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of these make the audible "click" when I
hit
> > the
> > > > Aux
> > > > > > > Batt
> > > > > > > > > > > > switch.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The drawings in my Blue Box aren't as
> > > > comprehensive
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > my FC, so I am having trouble figuring all
> > this
> > > > out.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On my 86 PT40 mine is in the compartment
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > chargers.
> > > > > > > > > > But
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > knowing BB and your coach being a 38
footer it
> > > > may be
> > > > > > > > > > different.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 02:53:55 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Aux Batt
> > solenoid
> > > > on
> > > > > > PT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where is the auxillary battery
solenoid
> > on a
> > > > PT?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
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[Tom Warner]

The V with a wavy line on a multimeter is for Alternating voltage,
and the V with 3 dots (actually 3 dashes with a bar over the top) is
for Direct Current voltage.

The 12.1VDC (50% battery charged) or 12.4VDC(70% battery
charged) read across the battery terminals could just be that the
battery is discharged or partially discharged and/or has not been
charging. Its a lot of work to remove 4-6 or more 60# batteries and
cart them to an auto store to test when you can do it in a few
minutes without taking them out of the coach. But that is each
persons choice of course.

I would suggest those interested read the general battery
maintenance information from Trojan Batteries although it pertains to
all batteries.
http://www.trojan-battery.com/Tech-Suppo...sting.aspx
Pay particular attention to the process of testing for specific
gravity (you need a hydrometer and I would advise everyone interested
in doing at least some of the maintenance on their coaches to buy
one). And if you really want to understand your charging system
including your alternator, chargers and batteries you really should
understand what the charging curves look like for voltage and
current. Just my opinion but Phfred has lots of really good
information on these subjects for RVers. Oh and a Fluke multimeter
is an excellent investment and will save you a lot of headaches.

Tom Warner
vernon center,ny
1985 PT 40

At 10:21 PM 5/27/2007, you wrote:
>Scott,
>
>A bad battery could cause the 12.4 reading. Remove the battery, take it
>to an auto parts store, have them load test it. Could be a bad cell in
>the battery. I've experience battereis with a bad cell start engines,
>and then just die on the spot.
>
>What are the "modes" on your multimeter that you are using?
>
>We are here to help. Just keep the communication coming.
>
>Curt Sprenger
>1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
>Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
>
>
>Scott Forman wrote:
>
> > the gen batt read 12.1 before I started it, 12.4 after it was
> > running. I know that by the book 12.1v is a half-dead battery, but
> > it cranks awfully strong to be half dead. And the 12.4 isn't as high
> > as it should be, but since it is higher there is obviously some
> > charge getting to it...ideas?
> >
> > Another note...my multimeter has two "modes" that I don't really
> > understand. When I turn the dial to one setting, it read 12.4 with
> > generator running, on the other setting it read 26.5. Any idea what
> > this other mode is showing me?
> >
> > Much confusions over here
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > , Curt Sprenger
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Battery with no charge to it for about 20 minutes, approx 12.6
> > volts is
> > > good. Battery receiving a charge, 13.4+ volts...unless you have the
> > > smart chargers that are in the sleep mode.
> > >
> > > Curt Sprenger
> > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > >
> > > > And what voltage should it show when charging?
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > , "pattypape"
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > TO be assured that the gen battery is charging under all
> > > > conditions,
> > > > > check with the shore power, then generator running , then the
> > > > engine
> > > > > alternator running and charging.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > , "Scott Forman"
> > <sforman@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Isn't it all one circuit?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Agree. Good.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do the same test using shore power.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > OK, the voltage went up with the gen running. So I guess
> > the
> > > > > > circuit
> > > > > > > > works.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > Have you used your multimeter and checked the voltage at
> > > > the
> > > > > > gen.
> > > > > > > > > battery? First before you start the gen. Than again
> > after
> > > > the
> > > > > > gen.
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > running. The increase in voltage when the gen. is
> > running
> > > > > tells
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > that the charge circuit is working. No change in
> > voltage, or
> > > > > > > > lower,
> > > > > > > > > you know the charge is not working.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hmmm..."what is your problem"...there's a wide ranging
> > > > > > > > question....
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Really I don't have a problem right now. I am just
> > trying
> > > > > to
> > > > > > learn
> > > > > > > > > > my new coach. I knew my old FC inside and out, and
> > that
> > > > > gave
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > confidence that if I ever had a problem on the road,
> > > > maybe
> > > > > I
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > diagnose it & fix it. I want to feel that way about my
> > > > PT,
> > > > > > too. I
> > > > > > > > > > also want to make sure that the charging circuit is
> > > > > charging
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > generator battery as it is supposed to.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > May I be so bold as to ask what is your problem?
> > > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 08:17:02 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Aux Batt solenoid
> > on
> > > > PT
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > OK...a little help...
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > There are solenoids all over the place. There's
> > one
> > > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > front
> > > > > > > > > > > > wall of the batter charger compartment. There are
> > two
> > > > > > others
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > metal panel that folds down to give access to the
> > > > > charger
> > > > > > > > > > > > compartment. And there are three of them behind
> > the
> > > > > step
> > > > > > well,
> > > > > > > > > > > > although it looks like two of them are for the
> > > > leveling
> > > > > > pump.
> > > > > > > > > > None
> > > > > > > > > > > > of these make the audible "click" when I hit the
> > Aux
> > > > > Batt
> > > > > > > > > > switch.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The drawings in my Blue Box aren't as
> > comprehensive
> > > > as
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > my FC, so I am having trouble figuring all this
> > out.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Help!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On my 86 PT40 mine is in the compartment with
> > the
> > > > > > chargers.
> > > > > > > > But
> > > > > > > > > > > > knowing BB and your coach being a 38 footer it
> > may be
> > > > > > > > different.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 02:53:55 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Aux Batt solenoid
> > on
> > > > PT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where is the auxillary battery solenoid on a
> > PT?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
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[Curt Sprenger]

I wish I could give you a clear technical answer. I've experienced the
same as you have. I've learned to set the multimeter to either DC or AC
depending on the need. Others on the forum will chime in and give a good
explanation.

We, us on this forum, are learning together. I'm not an expert, but
don't mind sharing what I have used or done working with DC, or AC as well.

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, Calif.


Scott Forman wrote:

> OK...why does a 12v DC battery show AC voltage?
>
> I used to think I understood vehicle electrical systems....
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> , Curt Sprenger
> wrote:
> >
> > Dots + DC Volts. Wavy line + AC Volts.
> >
> > Curt Sprenger
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott Forman wrote:
> >
> > > The modes are marked by a V followd by 3 dots in one mode and a V
> > > with a wavy line for the other. Doesn't help much, huh?
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Scott,
> > > >
> > > > A bad battery could cause the 12.4 reading. Remove the battery,
> > > take it
> > > > to an auto parts store, have them load test it. Could be a bad
> cell
> > > in
> > > > the battery. I've experience battereis with a bad cell start
> > > engines,
> > > > and then just die on the spot.
> > > >
> > > > What are the "modes" on your multimeter that you are using?
> > > >
> > > > We are here to help. Just keep the communication coming.
> > > >
> > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > the gen batt read 12.1 before I started it, 12.4 after it was
> > > > > running. I know that by the book 12.1v is a half-dead
> battery, but
> > > > > it cranks awfully strong to be half dead. And the 12.4 isn't
> as
> > > high
> > > > > as it should be, but since it is higher there is obviously
> some
> > > > > charge getting to it...ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > > Another note...my multimeter has two "modes" that I don't
> really
> > > > > understand. When I turn the dial to one setting, it read 12.4
> with
> > > > > generator running, on the other setting it read 26.5. Any idea
> > > what
> > > > > this other mode is showing me?
> > > > >
> > > > > Much confusions over here
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Battery with no charge to it for about 20 minutes, approx
> 12.6
> > > > > volts is
> > > > > > good. Battery receiving a charge, 13.4+ volts...unless you
> have
> > > the
> > > > > > smart chargers that are in the sleep mode.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > And what voltage should it show when charging?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > , "pattypape"
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > TO be assured that the gen battery is charging under all
> > > > > > > conditions,
> > > > > > > > check with the shore power, then generator running ,
> then
> > > the
> > > > > > > engine
> > > > > > > > alternator running and charging.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > , "Scott
> Forman"
> > > > > <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Isn't it all one circuit?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > , Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Agree. Good.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Do the same test using shore power.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > OK, the voltage went up with the gen running. So I
> > > guess
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > circuit
> > > > > > > > > > > works.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > , Curt
> > > Sprenger
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Have you used your multimeter and checked the
> > > voltage at
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > gen.
> > > > > > > > > > > > battery? First before you start the gen. Than
> again
> > > > > after
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > gen.
> > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > running. The increase in voltage when the gen.
> is
> > > > > running
> > > > > > > > tells
> > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > that the charge circuit is working. No change in
> > > > > voltage, or
> > > > > > > > > > > lower,
> > > > > > > > > > > > you know the charge is not working.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > > > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm..."what is your problem"...there's a wide
> > > ranging
> > > > > > > > > > > question....
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Really I don't have a problem right now. I am
> just
> > > > > trying
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > learn
> > > > > > > > > > > > > my new coach. I knew my old FC inside and
> out, and
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > gave
> > > > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > confidence that if I ever had a problem on the
> > > road,
> > > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > > > > diagnose it & fix it. I want to feel that way
> > > about my
> > > > > > > PT,
> > > > > > > > > too. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > also want to make sure that the charging
> circuit
> > > is
> > > > > > > > charging
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > generator battery as it is supposed to.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > May I be so bold as to ask what is your
> problem?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 08:17:02 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Aux Batt
> > > solenoid
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > PT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK...a little help...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are solenoids all over the place.
> > > There's
> > > > > one
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > front
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wall of the batter charger compartment.
> There
> > > are
> > > > > two
> > > > > > > > > others
> > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > metal panel that folds down to give
> access to
> > > the
> > > > > > > > charger
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > compartment. And there are three of them
> > > behind
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > step
> > > > > > > > > well,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > although it looks like two of them are
> for the
> > > > > > > leveling
> > > > > > > > > pump.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > None
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of these make the audible "click" when I
> hit
> > > the
> > > > > Aux
> > > > > > > > Batt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > switch.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The drawings in my Blue Box aren't as
> > > > > comprehensive
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my FC, so I am having trouble figuring all
> > > this
> > > > > out.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
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> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On my 86 PT40 mine is in the compartment
> > > with
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > chargers.
> > > > > > > > > > > But
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > knowing BB and your coach being a 38
> footer it
> > > > > may be
> > > > > > > > > > > different.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howard Truitt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Camilla, Ga.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT40
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: 2007/05/26 Sat PM 02:53:55 EDT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
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> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > solenoid
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > PT
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where is the auxillary battery
> solenoid
> > > on a
> > > > > PT?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Forman
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 86 PT38
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