wind noise

[bluebird3208]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Wright"
wrote:
>I posted pictures dont ask me how but they are under left's birds


hope this helps. If you are interested I will post dimensions.


> On 5/8/07, Don Bradner wrote:
> > On 5/8/2007 at 11:29 PM bluebird3208 wrote:
> >
> > > I had the same problem and built two stainless steel wind
defletors
> > >and mounted them ahead of the windows. No wind noise until 80 Mph
> > >relative wind speed. If you are interested I will post a photo
> >
> > Sure, always interested in what others have done.
>
> I'd like to see these, too, Jim.
>
> -Ryan
> '86 PT-40 8V92
> Tri-Cities, WA
>

[Don Bradner]

OK, thanks for posting them. I'm hoping the pile in the forward grooves will do
the trick. If it doesn't, I'll probably get some of the original channel pile
from Stephen, and go with a deflector as third choice.

I'll know about the first one tomorrow, and will report.

On 5/9/2007 at 10:16 PM bluebird3208 wrote:

>I posted pictures dont ask me how but they are under left's birds
>
>hope this helps. If you are interested I will post dimensions.

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Posting on the road by satellite from
Kelso, Washington

[Gregory OConnor]

Don, Could it be the mirrors?? I wonder if you were to turn them
sideways would it quiet down??? ( Test). Ramco Mirror has a two piece
insert that tightens down via an allen wrench. they will mail you new
plastic sets for free or send alumnium sets for ?$5.00. PB Blaster
was needed to free up my mis aligned mirrors
GregoryO'Connor
94p[tRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
wrote:
>
> I have what I consider excessive wind noise from both driver and
passenger windows at highway speed. Is this "normal" or common? Known
fixes?
>
> Don Bradner
> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
> Posting on the road by satellite from
> Kelso, Washington
>

[Don Bradner]

When I talked to Stephen Birtles he said that sometimes adjusting the mirrors
differently will make a difference in wind noise at the windows, but it seems to
me that it might be a difficult task to find just the right spot, assuming it
exists.

I have the aluminum mirrors, and the allen screws are all free. When I got it,
the driver mirror was fully out to the left. Good visibility there, but this rig
is wide enough without that huge protrusion! I moved it forward, and in both
cases the wind noise has been similar. On the right the mirrors are pretty much
the way they came, although I have had that one completely off in the meantime -
been working on polishing them. Even with the added top mirror they end a foot
below the top of the window, so I don't think they could ever be a poor
deflector.

I'm in holding mode on this until I can test my first attempt at a fix tomorrow
(the new pile strips in the forward tracks).

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Posting on the road by satellite from
Kelso, Washington

On 5/10/2007 at 2:21 AM Gregory OConnor wrote:

>Don, Could it be the mirrors?? I wonder if you were to turn them
>sideways would it quiet down??? ( Test). Ramco Mirror has a two piece
>insert that tightens down via an allen wrench. they will mail you new
>plastic sets for free or send alumnium sets for ?$5.00. PB Blaster
>was needed to free up my mis aligned mirrors
>GregoryO'Connor
>94p[tRomolandCa
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
> wrote:
>>
>> I have what I consider excessive wind noise from both driver and
>passenger windows at highway speed. Is this "normal" or common? Known
>fixes?

[Don Bradner]

OK, I had a 50-mile freeway run with my "fix" of the windows, and I would call
it a 90% improvement. Enough so that awareness of the noise drops into the
background where you are only aware if you think about it. That's good enough
for now, not worth chasing something that might or might not be better.

The product used was "Ace Pile Weatherstrip" number 52210. 3/16H pile, 1/4W,
adhesive back. 17 feet was $10 at a large Ace in Kelso, WA.

This was run into both sides of the forward-edge track, from top to bottom and
extending around the corners in inch or two into the horizontal straight
portions. The inner side is wider than the outer, and on the outer it was
necessary to work it in slowly with a screwdriver blade.

[Curt Sprenger]

Don,

Good post. Thank you. I've put this on my work-items-list.

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Don Bradner wrote:

> OK, I had a 50-mile freeway run with my "fix" of the windows, and I
> would call it a 90% improvement. Enough so that awareness of the noise
> drops into the background where you are only aware if you think about
> it. That's good enough for now, not worth chasing something that might
> or might not be better.
>
> The product used was "Ace Pile Weatherstrip" number 52210. 3/16H pile,
> 1/4W, adhesive back. 17 feet was $10 at a large Ace in Kelso, WA.
>
> This was run into both sides of the forward-edge track, from top to
> bottom and extending around the corners in inch or two into the
> horizontal straight portions. The inner side is wider than the outer,
> and on the outer it was necessary to work it in slowly with a
> screwdriver blade.
>
>

[Curt Sprenger]

I can report that adding the weather stripping, as recommended by Don
Bradner, indeed stops the majority of wind noise.

I purchased the Pile Seal from Ace Hardware, the same product #52210
that Don used.

--
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, Calif.

[Don Bradner]

Great! Glad to hear the suggestion was helpful.

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Eureka, CA

On 6/4/2007 at 6:17 AM Curt Sprenger wrote:

>I can report that adding the weather stripping, as recommended by Don
>Bradner, indeed stops the majority of wind noise.
>
>I purchased the Pile Seal from Ace Hardware, the same product #52210
>that Don used.
>
>--
>Curt Sprenger
>1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
>Anaheim Hills, Calif.

[Ryan Wright]

Curt, Don,

I purchased some of this last night. Question, though: When I went to
install it, I saw that there was already some weatherstripping just
like it in the window channel. Now, I'm supposed to be installing this
in the same channel that the window rides in, right? Such that the
sliding portion of the window frame compresses against this
weatherstripping?

So, do I just rip the old stuff out and replace it with this?

-Ryan
'86 PT-40 8V92
Tri-Cities, WA

On 6/4/07, Curt Sprenger wrote:
> I can report that adding the weather stripping, as recommended by Don
> Bradner, indeed stops the majority of wind noise.
>
> I purchased the Pile Seal from Ace Hardware, the same product #52210
> that Don used.
>
> --
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, Calif.
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[Don Bradner]

On mine, someone had installed foam insulation in the past that I had to remove.
Old dry, compressed, cracked, crumbling insulation.

If someone has previously installed felt (both sides of the rail?), what is
wrong with it? Too compressed? If that's the case then yes, remove it and
replace.

There is felt in the window itself, in the channel, of a "wraparound" design
that contacts both sides of the rail. I assume that worked well from the factory
but has become too compressed over time to do a good job, and I suspect the fix
we are doing will eventually wear out as well.

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Eureka, CA

On 6/6/2007 at 9:17 AM Ryan Wright wrote:

>Curt, Don,
>
>I purchased some of this last night. Question, though: When I went to
>install it, I saw that there was already some weatherstripping just
>like it in the window channel. Now, I'm supposed to be installing this
>in the same channel that the window rides in, right? Such that the
>sliding portion of the window frame compresses against this
>weatherstripping?
>
>So, do I just rip the old stuff out and replace it with this?
>
>-Ryan
>'86 PT-40 8V92
>Tri-Cities, WA
>
>On 6/4/07, Curt Sprenger wrote:
>> I can report that adding the weather stripping, as recommended by Don
>> Bradner, indeed stops the majority of wind noise.
>>
>> I purchased the Pile Seal from Ace Hardware, the same product #52210
>> that Don used.
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>> --
>> Curt Sprenger
>> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
>> Anaheim Hills, Calif.
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