88 pt 40 how many alternators?

[Mike McMahan]

Replacing these coolant lines or at least checking them is really a
good idea. On my 82 PT 40 I got to do this on the side of the road.
This is no fun and usually a nasty dirty job. these coolant lines
provide the coolant for the engine air compressor and a leak can
cause significant engine coolant loss resulting in engine overheating
in a very short time so all who have suggested checking them are
right. In addition to engine overheating even if you catch the leak
in time it still makes a hell of a mess on the bus and tow vehicle.
Mike Mcmahan 96 PT 42


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Robert & Teri Rahn"
wrote:
>
> Okay so I access the alternator from the hole under the bed. Sounds
> great. What are the compressor lines? There is a compressor in the
> cooling system? Sounds like the lines will fail and cause the
engine
> problems then that is the 20 thousand dollars? Im sold for sure,
but
> where do I get these lines, coachworks?
>
> Robert Rahn
> 1988 pt 40
> Warner Robins. Ga.
> In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson"
> wrote:
> >
> > Don first of all I'm fwding your email directly to Randy OK.
> Secondly there
> > are two lines to the compressor. The end of one is easily
> accessible from
> > the trap door we are talking about. The rest of the story is
another
> > question. The second line comes from below and over the top of
the
> engine.
> > Both Randy and Curt Sprenger have done this job and it is not for
> the
> > layman. I don't want the scare you but this is a real concern for
> any BB
> > over ten years old. Last week Randy had a fellow drop by and
while
> he
> > pointed out the two problem hoses (gentle nudge) the whole
f$#king
> thing
> > fell apart, coolant shower and Randy had a two day job instead of
> the planed
> > 3 hour tune up. Everyone of you out there should be checking
these
> coolant
> > lines.
> >
> > On 17/11/2007, Don Bradner wrote:
> > >
> > > The way I read Randy's post about the compressor coolant
line,
> I thought
> > > it was necessary to access from below. You are saying it is
> accessible from
> > > above? Where should I look, in relation to looking down right
> above the
> > > alternator? Having replaced that alternator I have no problems
> with
> > > accessing things through that hole.
> > >
> > > On 11/17/2007 at 10:57 PM Rob Robinson wrote:
> > >
> > > >Mike and Don have given you the spoken truth. I and Randy
Dupree
> have
> > > done
> > > >this several times. As Don says the trap door is there so go
for
> it.
> > > Cover
> > > >all surfaces, especially the bed OK. While in there replace
the
> lines to
> > > >the
> > > >compressor. Curt will chime in here with more expertise. He
and
> Randy are
> > > >the experienced guys on these two lines. Believe me when I say
> those two
> > > >lines are failing and this is your chance to save yourself
$20K.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 17/11/2007, Don Bradner > 40arcatapet.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Should be a metal plate under the bed, directly above that
> alternator.
> > > >> About a zillion screws around the outside - oh the joys of
> modern power
> > > >> screwdrivers!
> > > >>
> > > >> Don Bradner
> > > >> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
> > > >> Eureka, CA
> > > >>
> > > >> On 11/17/2007 at 10:29 PM Robert & Teri Rahn wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >I was just cleaning up the engine after my recent coolant
> valve
> > > repairs
> > > >> >and noticed a belt hanging way up in front of the engine.
It
> appears
> > > >> >that the alternator belt or belts are broken and off. This
> alternator
> > > >> >is up high in front of the motor and although easy to see
> looks quite
> > > >> >difficult to access for the belt repair. Are there two
> alternators?
> > > >> >What is the best method for this repair?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Robert Rahn
> > > >> >1988 pt 40
> > > >> >Warner Robins, Ga
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > >94 WLWB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > 94 WLWB
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

[Mike McMahan]

Robert, Any good diesle shop should have what you need to replace
the lines. MIke Mcmahan 96 PT 42

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike McMahan"
<mmcmahan@...> wrote:
>
> Replacing these coolant lines or at least checking them is really a
> good idea. On my 82 PT 40 I got to do this on the side of the
road.
> This is no fun and usually a nasty dirty job. these coolant lines
> provide the coolant for the engine air compressor and a leak can
> cause significant engine coolant loss resulting in engine
overheating
> in a very short time so all who have suggested checking them are
> right. In addition to engine overheating even if you catch the
leak
> in time it still makes a hell of a mess on the bus and tow
vehicle.
> Mike Mcmahan 96 PT 42
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Robert & Teri Rahn"
> wrote:
> >
> > Okay so I access the alternator from the hole under the bed.
Sounds
> > great. What are the compressor lines? There is a compressor in
the
> > cooling system? Sounds like the lines will fail and cause the
> engine
> > problems then that is the 20 thousand dollars? Im sold for sure,
> but
> > where do I get these lines, coachworks?
> >
> > Robert Rahn
> > 1988 pt 40
> > Warner Robins. Ga.
> > In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson"

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Don first of all I'm fwding your email directly to Randy OK.
> > Secondly there
> > > are two lines to the compressor. The end of one is easily
> > accessible from
> > > the trap door we are talking about. The rest of the story is
> another
> > > question. The second line comes from below and over the top of
> the
> > engine.
> > > Both Randy and Curt Sprenger have done this job and it is not
for
> > the
> > > layman. I don't want the scare you but this is a real concern
for
> > any BB
> > > over ten years old. Last week Randy had a fellow drop by and
> while
> > he
> > > pointed out the two problem hoses (gentle nudge) the whole
> f$#king
> > thing
> > > fell apart, coolant shower and Randy had a two day job instead
of
> > the planed
> > > 3 hour tune up. Everyone of you out there should be checking
> these
> > coolant
> > > lines.
> > >
> > > On 17/11/2007, Don Bradner wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The way I read Randy's post about the compressor coolant
> line,
> > I thought
> > > > it was necessary to access from below. You are saying it is
> > accessible from
> > > > above? Where should I look, in relation to looking down right
> > above the
> > > > alternator? Having replaced that alternator I have no
problems
> > with
> > > > accessing things through that hole.
> > > >
> > > > On 11/17/2007 at 10:57 PM Rob Robinson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Mike and Don have given you the spoken truth. I and Randy
> Dupree
> > have
> > > > done
> > > > >this several times. As Don says the trap door is there so go
> for
> > it.
> > > > Cover
> > > > >all surfaces, especially the bed OK. While in there replace
> the
> > lines to
> > > > >the
> > > > >compressor. Curt will chime in here with more expertise. He
> and
> > Randy are
> > > > >the experienced guys on these two lines. Believe me when I
say
> > those two
> > > > >lines are failing and this is your chance to save yourself
> $20K.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >On 17/11/2007, Don Bradner > > 40arcatapet.com>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Should be a metal plate under the bed, directly above that
> > alternator.
> > > > >> About a zillion screws around the outside - oh the joys of
> > modern power
> > > > >> screwdrivers!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Don Bradner
> > > > >> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
> > > > >> Eureka, CA
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 11/17/2007 at 10:29 PM Robert & Teri Rahn wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >I was just cleaning up the engine after my recent coolant
> > valve
> > > > repairs
> > > > >> >and noticed a belt hanging way up in front of the engine.
> It
> > appears
> > > > >> >that the alternator belt or belts are broken and off.
This
> > alternator
> > > > >> >is up high in front of the motor and although easy to see
> > looks quite
> > > > >> >difficult to access for the belt repair. Are there two
> > alternators?
> > > > >> >What is the best method for this repair?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Robert Rahn
> > > > >> >1988 pt 40
> > > > >> >Warner Robins, Ga
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > > >94 WLWB
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > 94 WLWB
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

[Pete Masterson]

I think it's fair to point out that this affects DD 8v92 and 6v92
engines. Not the Cat 3208 or DD Series 60.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Lockhart Texas, BBQ capital of the world.... (so they
say here).



On Nov 18, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Mike McMahan wrote:

> Replacing these coolant lines or at least checking them is really a
> good idea. On my 82 PT 40 I got to do this on the side of the road.
> This is no fun and usually a nasty dirty job. these coolant lines
> provide the coolant for the engine air compressor and a leak can
> cause significant engine coolant loss resulting in engine overheating
> in a very short time so all who have suggested checking them are
> right. In addition to engine overheating even if you catch the leak
> in time it still makes a hell of a mess on the bus and tow vehicle.
> Mike Mcmahan 96 PT 42
>

[Mike McMahan]

Jim, I did not remove the starter. It took about three hours and as I
recall the 82 PT 40 did not have an access panel under the bed so it
was all from climbing in the side compartment and laying on the ground
ununderneath. This was probably 8-10 years,two Bluebird and many adult
beverages ago so I dont recall a lot. MIke Mcmahan 1996 PT 42

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, ciao70@... wrote:
>
> Mike...can you describe how you replaced these coolant lines on the
road.
> Did you remove the starter? etc. thanks Jim Barone 1991WLWB in Tubac
AZ.
>
>
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[jim riordan]

Bob,
you might of fixed already. I have two alts on my 88 WBWL. I do not have a
trap door in my coach, we have to climb in in front of the engine to do work on
the front alt. we climb in from the street side cin front of the engine a real
pita! the second one is back of coach looking forward on the right of the engine
bt the ac compressor minimal access can be removed from under the coach in
rear...

best

jim Riordan
88 WBWL XXV


Robert & Teri Rahn wrote:
I was just cleaning up the engine after my recent coolant valve
repairs
and noticed a belt hanging way up in front of the engine. It appears
that the alternator belt or belts are broken and off. This alternator
is up high in front of the motor and although easy to see looks quite
difficult to access for the belt repair. Are there two alternators?
What is the best method for this repair?

Robert Rahn
1988 pt 40
Warner Robins, Ga






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[Leroy Eckert]

I have two alternators also, 160 amp each. The upper one is accessible on my
coach by removing the mattress then removing a wood cover of the bed support
then about 100 screws on a metal plate under that to access the engine. After
that it is easy. The lower alternator is on the curb side just forward of the
rear bumper. l found that someone along the way had replaced a 160 amp version
with a 135 amp version. I went back to my factory values and all has been fine
since. With two alternators, there should be a switch on the panel that says alt
1, alt 2 and both or combined and should show the output on the amperes gauge at
the drivers panel.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA
Royale Conversion

jim riordan wrote: Bob,
you might of fixed already. I have two alts on my 88 WBWL. I do not have a
trap door in my coach, we have to climb in in front of the engine to do work on
the front alt. we climb in from the street side cin front of the engine a real
pita! the second one is back of coach looking forward on the right of the engine
bt the ac compressor minimal access can be removed from under the coach in
rear...

best

jim Riordan
88 WBWL XXV


Robert & Teri Rahn wrote:
I was just cleaning up the engine after my recent coolant valve
repairs
and noticed a belt hanging way up in front of the engine. It appears
that the alternator belt or belts are broken and off. This alternator
is up high in front of the motor and although easy to see looks quite
difficult to access for the belt repair. Are there two alternators?
What is the best method for this repair?

Robert Rahn
1988 pt 40
Warner Robins, Ga

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[ciao70@...]

Larry..I haven't looked yet but does the, under the bed access door for the
alternator, also give you access to the air compressor? Jim Barone 1991WLWB



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[ciao70@...]

Larry Eckert..Thanks for the response...lately folks have been talking about
the coolant lines that run to the air compressor and how important it is to
check/change these lines. They have also discussed how difficult it is to
access these lines.ie drop the starter motor and /or climb up on top of the
transmission to reach the air compressor...Thanks for you help..I'm going to
look
under the bed for the access plate..Jim Barone 1991 WLWB currently in Tubac
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[Leroy Eckert]

If that was for me I haven't messed with my air compressor. If it is in the rear
area of the engine then I presume so. The access hole allows me to access the
generator, exhaust pipe, belts and other things on the top rear of the engine.
Is there something I should be doing to the air compressor. I haven't had any
problems, yet...???
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA
Royale Conversion

ciao70@... wrote: Larry..I haven't looked yet
but does the, under the bed access door for the
alternator, also give you access to the air compressor? Jim Barone 1991WLWB

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[Rob Robinson]

Leroy I assume you are aware of the compressor coolant lines issue and the
need to check them for aging. Some of them have literally fallen apart when
subjected to relatively gentle tugs. Do a search on both Wanderlodge sites
for previous posts and fixes.

On 10/12/2007, Leroy Eckert wrote:
>
> If that was for me I haven't messed with my air compressor. If it is in
> the rear area of the engine then I presume so. The access hole allows me to
> access the generator, exhaust pipe, belts and other things on the top rear
> of the engine.
> Is there something I should be doing to the air compressor. I haven't had
> any problems, yet...???
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
> Royale Conversion
>
> ciao70@... wrote: Larry..I haven't looked yet but
> does the, under the bed access door for the
> alternator, also give you access to the air compressor? Jim Barone
> 1991WLWB
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