RV 3012 M

[Dorn Hetzel]

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From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Nick Klein[/b] <"customerservice@xantrex.com">

Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM

Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref ]
To: ""dorn@hetzel.org"" <"dorn@hetzel.org">



[ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]





Dear dorn,



They are basically exactly the same units, but below is an explanation:



This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and RV3012M, which were 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were only used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section on "RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus".)



Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory. Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the regular version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the same.



The "software" defaults which may be different from standard models were:

SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT

BAT CAPACITY – AUTO

BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID

CHARGE RATE – 80%



Yes, both models were designed for RV use.





For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to include the case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.





Technical Support

Customer Service Operations

Xantrex Technology Inc.

Website: www.xantrex.com



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Case number: 00102618

Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012

Description: Can you explain the differences between RV3012M and other RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are these models still suitable for an RV application?

[bumpersbird]

Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question.

I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control panel
the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.

According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to set
the inverter/charger to your particular application.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42




[ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]


Dear Kurt Horvath,

They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the RV3012M
model and then the RV 3012 GS :

The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units were only
used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series
of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section
on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)

Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.
Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the regular
version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the same.

The "software" defaults which may be different from standard models
were:
SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT
BAT CAPACITY – AUTO
BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID
CHARGE RATE – 80%



The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV series.
This series looks almost the same as the original RV and largely has
the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is that
it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few enhancements
made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming.


Both models were designed for RV use.

"RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the
cost be?"

You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you do not
have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing a "google"
search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer available
as they have been obsolete for awhile now.

It would be good to update the system rather than repair the freedom
if they are really 15 years old.

I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M" model.

But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be fine if
an RC7 comes with it.







For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to
include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the email.


Technical Support
Customer Service Operations
Xantrex Technology Inc.
Website: http://www.xantrex.com

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Case number: 00102708
Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger
Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between the
model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older model or
are there significant diffrences between the two units? RV3012 M be
reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost be?Can the
model
I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my coach.
They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these unites
with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I am in
the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good time to
do the inverter sysytem.
Thanks for your time,

Kurt Horvath




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Dorn Hetzel"
wrote:
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Nick Klein
> Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM
> Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref ]
> To: "dorn@..."
>
>
> [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]
>
>
> Dear dorn,
>
> They are basically exactly the same units, but below is an
explanation:
>
> This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and RV3012M, which
were
> 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were only
used for
> Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series of
default
> programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section on "RC7 &
RC7GS
> Setup Menus".)
>
> Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.
Otherwise they
> were physically indistinguishable from the regular version, and
had no other
> unique features. Warranty is the same.
>
> The "software" defaults which may be different from standard
models were:
> SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT
> BAT CAPACITY – AUTO
> BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID
> CHARGE RATE – 80%
>
> Yes, both models were designed for RV use.
>
>
> For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to
include the
> case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.
>
>
> Technical Support
> Customer Service Operations
> Xantrex Technology Inc.
> Website: http://www.xantrex.com
>
> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any
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>
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Case number: 00102618
> Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012
> Description: Can you explain the differences between RV3012M and
other
> RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are these
models still
> suitable for an RV application?
>

[Dorn Hetzel]

Well, I've ordered one of those RV3012M units. At $670 including shipping it seems worth taking the chance.

My present unit is just a battery charger with no inverter function anyway, and it seems to be dying, so with or without the proper RC unit it will be an upgrade


Dorn Hetzel
77FC35
Hogansville, GA

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 7:03 PM, bumpersbird <"bumpersbird@yahoo.com"> wrote:

Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question.



I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control panel

the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.



According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to set

the inverter/charger to your particular application.



Kurt Horvath

95 PT-42



[ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]



Dear Kurt Horvath,



They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the RV3012M

model and then the RV 3012 GS :



The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units were only

used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series

of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section

on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)

Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.

Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the regular

version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the same.



The "software" defaults which may be different from standard models

were:

SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT

BAT CAPACITY – AUTO

BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID

CHARGE RATE – 80%



The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV series.

This series looks almost the same as the original RV and largely has

the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is that

it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few enhancements

made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming.

Both models were designed for RV use.

"RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the

cost be?"



You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you do not

have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing a "google"

search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer available

as they have been obsolete for awhile now.



It would be good to update the system rather than repair the freedom

if they are really 15 years old.



I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M" model.



But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be fine if

an RC7 comes with it.

For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to

include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the email.

Technical Support

Customer Service Operations

Xantrex Technology Inc.

Website: www.xantrex.com



Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

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-----------------------------------------

Case number: 00102708

Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger

Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between the

model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older model or

are there significant diffrences between the two units? RV3012 M be

reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost be?Can the

model

I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my coach.

They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these unites

with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I am in

the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good time to

do the inverter sysytem.

Thanks for your time,



Kurt Horvath





--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Dorn Hetzel"

wrote:

>

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> From: Nick Klein

> Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM

> Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref ]

> To: "dorn@..."

>

>

> [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]

>

>

> Dear dorn,

>

> They are basically exactly the same units, but below is an

explanation:

>

> This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and RV3012M, which

were

> 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were only

used for

> Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series of

default

> programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section on "RC7 &

RC7GS

> Setup Menus".)

>

> Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.

Otherwise they

> were physically indistinguishable from the regular version, and

had no other

> unique features. Warranty is the same.

>

> The "software" defaults which may be different from standard

models were:

> SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT

> BAT CAPACITY – AUTO

> BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID

> CHARGE RATE – 80%

>

> Yes, both models were designed for RV use.

>

>

> For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to

include the

> case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.

>

>

> Technical Support

> Customer Service Operations

> Xantrex Technology Inc.

> Website: www.xantrex.com

>

> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

attachments, is

> for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain confidential

and

> privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or

> distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient,

please

> contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the

original

> message.

>

> -----------------------------------------

>

> Case number: 00102618

> Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012

> Description: Can you explain the differences between RV3012M and

other

> RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are these

models still

> suitable for an RV application?

>

[Kurt Horvath]

Dorn, On ebay, type in Xantrex and scroll to page 3 or 4, there is an outfit in Mo. that has 15 -RC7 controlers for sale. They are not in origonal packaging but he states they are perfect condition. E-Bay Item number: 380027259205. I'm still deciding what to do. The problem is should I place these new inverters back in the same place or move them into to thebay with the tool box and loose my BBQ grill. Re routing all thoses cables is like reinventing the wheel. Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 --- On Thu, 5/22/08, Dorn Hetzel wrote: From: Dorn Hetzel Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: RV 3012 M To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 22, 2008, 9:13 AM Well, I've ordered one of those RV3012M units. At $670 including shipping it seems worth taking the chance. My present unit is just a battery charger with no inverter function anyway, and it seems to be dying, so with or without the proper RC unit it will be an upgrade Dorn Hetzel 77FC35 Hogansville, GA On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 7:03 PM, bumpersbird <"bumpersbird@yahoo.com"> wrote: Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question. I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control panel the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7. According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to set the inverter/charger to your particular application. Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 [ref:00D3Wjr. 500350dxJ: ref] Dear Kurt Horvath, They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the RV3012M model and then the RV 3012 GS : The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units were only used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.) Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory. Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the regular version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the same. The "software" defaults which may be different from standard models were: SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT BAT CAPACITY – AUTO BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID CHARGE RATE – 80% The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV series. This series looks almost the same as the original RV and largely has the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is that it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few enhancements made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming. Both models were designed for RV use. "RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost be?" You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you do not have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing a "google" search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer available as they have been obsolete for awhile now. It would be good to update the system rather than repair the freedom if they are really 15 years old. I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M" model. But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be fine if an RC7 comes with it. For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the email. Technical Support Customer Service Operations Xantrex Technology Inc. Website: www.xantrex. com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------ --------- --------- --------- -- Case number: 00102708 Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between the model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older model or are there significant diffrences between the two units? RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost be?Can the model I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my coach. They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these unites with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I am in the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good time to do the inverter sysytem. Thanks for your time, Kurt Horvath --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Dorn Hetzel" wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Nick Klein > Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM > Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [ ref:00D3Wjr. 500350ZIy: ref ] > To: "dorn@..." > > > [ref:00D3Wjr. 500350ZIy: ref] > > > Dear dorn, > > They are basically exactly the same units, but below is an explanation: > > This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and RV3012M, which were > 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were only used for > Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series of default > programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section on "RC7 & RC7GS > Setup Menus".) > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory. Otherwise they > were physically indistinguishable from the regular version, and had no other > unique features. Warranty is the same. > > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard models were: > SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT > BAT CAPACITY – AUTO > BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID > CHARGE RATE – 80% > > Yes, both models were designed for RV use. > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to include the > case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email. > > > Technical Support > Customer Service Operations > Xantrex Technology Inc. > Website: www.xantrex. com > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is > for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain confidential and > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original > message. > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- -- > > Case number: 00102618 > Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012 > Description: Can you explain the differences between RV3012M and other > RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are these models still > suitable for an RV application? >

[joepat50]

Ya,

I got one too and the RC7 display... Seems like a good replacement for
the Pace1500 :}

I called Xantrex and asked about the grounding issue in the manual and
its not a problem. Only thing you lose by not having the chassis
ground going through the inverter is the DC load info. You still get
the charge current and AC load info.

Since we have the shunts to read that info anyway I dont see that as a
big concern...

/Joe

'87PT40
San Francisco

[Terry Neal]

Hi Kurt,



Did you receive a response from Xantrex about the RC/GS remote to
control this RV 3012 M? I am thinking about ordering one too &
replace all of the old components such as the Redline unit in my PT.
Can't find any info about the two working together.

Terry



bumpersbird wrote:

Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question.



I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control panel

the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.



According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to set

the inverter/charger to your particular application.



Kurt Horvath

95 PT-42



[ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]



Dear Kurt Horvath,



They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the RV3012M

model and then the RV 3012 GS :



The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units were only

used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series

of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section

on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)



Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.

Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the regular

version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the same.



The "software" defaults which may be different from standard models

were:

SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT

BAT CAPACITY – AUTO

BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID

CHARGE RATE – 80%



The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV series.

This series looks almost the same as the original RV and largely has

the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is that

it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few enhancements

made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming.



Both models were designed for RV use.



"RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the

cost be?"



You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you do not

have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing a "google"

search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer available

as they have been obsolete for awhile now.



It would be good to update the system rather than repair the freedom

if they are really 15 years old.



I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M" model.



But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be fine if

an RC7 comes with it.



For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to

include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the email.



Technical Support

Customer Service Operations

Xantrex Technology Inc.

Website: www.xantrex.com



Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain

confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review,

use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the

intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and

destroy all copies of the original message.



-----------------------------------------



Case number: 00102708

Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger

Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between the

model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older model or

are there significant diffrences between the two units? RV3012 M be

reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost be?Can the

model

I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my coach.

They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these unites

with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I am in

the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good time to

do the inverter sysytem.

Thanks for your time,



Kurt Horvath





--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"Dorn Hetzel" >

wrote:

>

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> From: Nick Klein ...>

> Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM

> Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref
]

> To: "dorn@..." "dorn@..."

>

>

> [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]

>

>

> Dear dorn,

>

> They are basically exactly the same units, but below is an

explanation:

>

> This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and RV3012M, which


were

> 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were only

used for

> Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series of

default

> programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section on "RC7
&

RC7GS

> Setup Menus".)

>

> Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.

Otherwise they

> were physically indistinguishable from the regular version, and

had no other

> unique features. Warranty is the same.

>

> The "software" defaults which may be different from standard

models were:

> SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT

> BAT CAPACITY – AUTO

> BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID

> CHARGE RATE – 80%

>

> Yes, both models were designed for RV use.

>

>

> For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to

include the

> case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.

>

>

> Technical Support

> Customer Service Operations

> Xantrex Technology Inc.

> Website: www.xantrex.com

>

> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

attachments, is

> for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain confidential

and

> privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or

> distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient,


please

> contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the

original

> message.

>

> -----------------------------------------

>

> Case number: 00102618

> Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012

> Description: Can you explain the differences between RV3012M and

other

> RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are these

models still

> suitable for an RV application?

>

[Curt Sprenger]

If I understand the research I did, the RC7/GS works with the older RV3012 and it works with the newer GS (Gen. Start) model. The RC7 is for the older unit, the RC7/GS works for both the old and new units. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


Check ebay http://tinyurl.com/457nr2 for the RC7/GS remote control. Eight of them available.

, May 29, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Terry Neal <"bird@mountainrovers.com"> wrote:

Hi Kurt,



Did you receive a response from Xantrex about the RC/GS remote to
control this RV 3012 M? I am thinking about ordering one too &
replace all of the old components such as the Redline unit in my PT.
Can't find any info about the two working together.

Terry

bumpersbird wrote:

Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question.



I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control panel

the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.



According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to set

the inverter/charger to your particular application.



Kurt Horvath

95 PT-42



[ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]



Dear Kurt Horvath,



They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the RV3012M

model and then the RV 3012 GS :



The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units were only

used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series

of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section

on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)



Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.

Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the regular

version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the same.



The "software" defaults which may be different from standard models

were:

SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT

BAT CAPACITY – AUTO

BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID

CHARGE RATE – 80%



The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV series.

This series looks almost the same as the original RV and largely has

the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is that

it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few enhancements

made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming.



Both models were designed for RV use.



"RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the

cost be?"



You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you do not

have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing a "google"

search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer available

as they have been obsolete for awhile now.



It would be good to update the system rather than repair the freedom

if they are really 15 years old.



I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M" model.



But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be fine if

an RC7 comes with it.



For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to

include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the email.



Technical Support

Customer Service Operations

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Case number: 00102708

Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger

Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between the

model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older model or

are there significant diffrences between the two units? RV3012 M be

reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost be?Can the

model

I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my coach.

They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these unites

with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I am in

the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good time to

do the inverter sysytem.

Thanks for your time,



Kurt Horvath





--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"Dorn Hetzel"

wrote:

>

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> From: Nick Klein

> Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM

> Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref
]

> To: "dorn@..." "dorn@..."

>

>

> [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]

>

>

> Dear dorn,

>

> They are basically exactly the same units, but below is an

explanation:

>

> This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and RV3012M, which


were

> 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were only

used for

> Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series of

default

> programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section on "RC7
&

RC7GS

> Setup Menus".)

>

> Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.

Otherwise they

> were physically indistinguishable from the regular version, and

had no other

> unique features. Warranty is the same.

>

> The "software" defaults which may be different from standard

models were:

> SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT

> BAT CAPACITY – AUTO

> BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID

> CHARGE RATE – 80%

>

> Yes, both models were designed for RV use.

>

>

> For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to

include the

> case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.

>

>

> Technical Support

> Customer Service Operations

> Xantrex Technology Inc.

> Website: www.xantrex.com

>

> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

attachments, is

> for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain confidential

and

> privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or

> distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient,


please

> contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the

original

> message.

>

> -----------------------------------------

>

> Case number: 00102618

> Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012

> Description: Can you explain the differences between RV3012M and

other

> RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are these

models still

> suitable for an RV application?

>

--
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA

[bumpersbird]

Terry,

Here is the responce from Xantrex Customer Serive.

I did buy 2 of these units. They are new in the box and Sun Electric
is an aurthorized dealer so the warrantie should be good.

I spoke with several tech guys and of course got several diffrent
answers. About all aspects of these units.

I was most impressed with a guy from Buddy Gregg Motorhomes in
Knoxville TN. Wayne Clapp a veteran BB Tech. His first question was
did I plan on keeping the coach? Well of course. Then you must get
these inverters out of the engine compartment and into one of the
bays. So were are going the reinvent the wheel. Not really a problem
the old compartment is really not large enough for the new inveters.

With the inverter box empty I think I'll throw in a couple more
Lifeline gell cells. That will make 8 house batts. Wayne also told me
he can with the addition of a few relays make the AC run on Batts.
With the additional 2 Lifeline's and the 2 new invetrers running off
of 8 Batts. in 2, four Batt. banks I should be able to run 2 AC'S.
The 300 amp alternator should be able to tow the line. I would be
nice to run the roof air with out the generator. Any help in fuel
economy is welcomed.

Any body want to buy a electric grill for their coach? Mine is coming
out, slide and electric components included.

I also bought 2 RC7/GS controlers off of e-bay. The were the best
deal for the $'s.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42 WLWB

[ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]

Dear kurt daniel horvath,

"Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7."

No , this will not work properly. You are better off trying to locate
an RC7 by seaching the internet and the many dealers who may have a
NOS unit.


"Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?"

If the unit is new in the box and purchased from proper dealer who
purchased it from a Xantrex Distributor than we shall honor the
warranty.



Xantrex Technical Support
Customer Service Operations
Xantrex Technology Inc.
Email: customerservice@...
Website: http://www.xantrex.com
t: (360) 925-5097 / (800) 670-0707
f: (360) 435-2636

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--------------- Original Message ---------------
From: kurt daniel horvath [kguns@...]
To: customerservice@...
Subject: Fw: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]

Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?

----Original Message----
From: kguns@...
Date: 05/21/2008 3:27 PM
To:
Subj: RE: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]

Dear Mr.Nick Klien.

Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7.
If so, are there any peculiarities involed or is it just a simple
choice of which control is available.
Yes price is a consideration here the old unites are new and are an
exceptional deal at this time.

Thank You for your time,
Kurt Horvath



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Terry Neal wrote:
>
> Hi Kurt,
>
> Did you receive a response from Xantrex about the RC/GS remote to
> control this RV 3012 M? I am thinking about ordering one too &
replace
> all of the old components such as the Redline unit in my PT. Can't
find
> any info about the two working together.
> Terry
>
> bumpersbird wrote:
>
> > Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question.
> >
> > I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control panel
> > the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.
> >
> > According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to set
> > the inverter/charger to your particular application.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42
> >
> > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]
> >
> > Dear Kurt Horvath,
> >
> > They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the
RV3012M
> > model and then the RV 3012 GS :
> >
> > The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units were
only
> > used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a
series
> > of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section
> > on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)
> >
> > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.
> > Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the regular
> > version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the same.
> >
> > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard
models
> > were:
> > SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT
> > BAT CAPACITY – AUTO
> > BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID
> > CHARGE RATE – 80%
> >
> > The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV series.
> > This series looks almost the same as the original RV and largely
has
> > the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is that
> > it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few
enhancements
> > made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming.
> >
> > Both models were designed for RV use.
> >
> > "RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the
> > cost be?"
> >
> > You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you do not
> > have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing
a "google"
> > search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer
available
> > as they have been obsolete for awhile now.
> >
> > It would be good to update the system rather than repair the
freedom
> > if they are really 15 years old.
> >
> > I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M" model.
> >
> > But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be fine
if
> > an RC7 comes with it.
> >
> > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to
> > include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the
email.
> >
> > Technical Support
> > Customer Service Operations
> > Xantrex Technology Inc.
> > Website: http://www.xantrex.com
> >
> > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any
> > attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may
contain
> > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review,
> > use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the
> > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and
> > destroy all copies of the original message.
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> >
> > Case number: 00102708
> > Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger
> > Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between the
> > model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older model
or
> > are there significant diffrences between the two units? RV3012 M
be
> > reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost be?Can
the
> > model
> > I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my coach.
> > They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these unites
> > with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I am in
> > the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good time
to
> > do the inverter sysytem.
> > Thanks for your time,
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > , "Dorn Hetzel"

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Nick Klein
> > > Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [
ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref ]
> > > To: "dorn@"
> > >
> > >
> > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear dorn,
> > >
> > > They are basically exactly the same units, but below is an
> > explanation:
> > >
> > > This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and RV3012M,
which
> > were
> > > 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were only
> > used for
> > > Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series of
> > default
> > > programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section on "RC7
&
> > RC7GS
> > > Setup Menus".)
> > >
> > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.
> > Otherwise they
> > > were physically indistinguishable from the regular version, and
> > had no other
> > > unique features. Warranty is the same.
> > >
> > > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard
> > models were:
> > > SEARCH SENSE - DEFEAT
> > > BAT CAPACITY - AUTO
> > > BAT TYPE - LIQUID LEAD ACID
> > > CHARGE RATE - 80%
> > >
> > > Yes, both models were designed for RV use.
> > >
> > >
> > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to
> > include the
> > > case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.
> > >
> > >
> > > Technical Support
> > > Customer Service Operations
> > > Xantrex Technology Inc.
> > > Website: http://www.xantrex.com
> > >
> > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any
> > attachments, is
> > > for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain
confidential
> > and
> > > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use,
disclosure or
> > > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended
recipient,
> > please
> > > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the
> > original
> > > message.
> > >
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Case number: 00102618
> > > Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012
> > > Description: Can you explain the differences between RV3012M and
> > other
> > > RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are these
> > models still
> > > suitable for an RV application?
> > >
> >
> >
>

[Curt Sprenger]

A guy at Sun Electronics said the "M" is for "Marine" units...interesting.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:32 AM, bumpersbird <"bumpersbird@yahoo.com"> wrote:

Terry,



Here is the responce from Xantrex Customer Serive.



I did buy 2 of these units. They are new in the box and Sun Electric

is an aurthorized dealer so the warrantie should be good.



I spoke with several tech guys and of course got several diffrent

answers. About all aspects of these units.



I was most impressed with a guy from Buddy Gregg Motorhomes in

Knoxville TN. Wayne Clapp a veteran BB Tech. His first question was

did I plan on keeping the coach? Well of course. Then you must get

these inverters out of the engine compartment and into one of the

bays. So were are going the reinvent the wheel. Not really a problem

the old compartment is really not large enough for the new inveters.



With the inverter box empty I think I'll throw in a couple more

Lifeline gell cells. That will make 8 house batts. Wayne also told me

he can with the addition of a few relays make the AC run on Batts.

With the additional 2 Lifeline's and the 2 new invetrers running off

of 8 Batts. in 2, four Batt. banks I should be able to run 2 AC'S.

The 300 amp alternator should be able to tow the line. I would be

nice to run the roof air with out the generator. Any help in fuel

economy is welcomed.



Any body want to buy a electric grill for their coach? Mine is coming

out, slide and electric components included.



I also bought 2 RC7/GS controlers off of e-bay. The were the best

deal for the $'s.



Kurt Horvath

95 PT-42 WLWB



[ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]



Dear kurt daniel horvath,



"Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7."



No , this will not work properly. You are better off trying to locate

an RC7 by seaching the internet and the many dealers who may have a

NOS unit.



"Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?"



If the unit is new in the box and purchased from proper dealer who

purchased it from a Xantrex Distributor than we shall honor the

warranty.



Xantrex Technical Support

Customer Service Operations

Xantrex Technology Inc.

Email: "customerservice%40xantrex.com"

Website: www.xantrex.com

t: (360) 925-5097 / (800) 670-0707

f: (360) 435-2636

Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain

confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review,

use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the

intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and

destroy all copies of the original message.

--------------- Original Message ---------------

From: kurt daniel horvath ["kguns%40hughes.net"]

To: "customerservice%40xantrex.com"

Subject: Fw: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]



Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?



----Original Message----

From: "kguns%40hughes.net"

Date: 05/21/2008 3:27 PM

To: <"customerservice%40xantrex.com">

Subj: RE: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]



Dear Mr.Nick Klien.



Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7.

If so, are there any peculiarities involed or is it just a simple

choice of which control is available.

Yes price is a consideration here the old unites are new and are an

exceptional deal at this time.



Thank You for your time,

Kurt Horvath

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Terry Neal wrote:

>

> Hi Kurt,

>

> Did you receive a response from Xantrex about the RC/GS remote to

> control this RV 3012 M? I am thinking about ordering one too &

replace

> all of the old components such as the Redline unit in my PT. Can't

find

> any info about the two working together.

> Terry

>

> bumpersbird wrote:

>

> > Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question.

> >

> > I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control panel

> > the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.

> >

> > According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to set

> > the inverter/charger to your particular application.

> >

> > Kurt Horvath

> > 95 PT-42

> >

> > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]

> >

> > Dear Kurt Horvath,

> >

> > They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the

RV3012M

> > model and then the RV 3012 GS :

> >

> > The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units were

only

> > used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a

series

> > of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section

> > on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)

> >

> > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.

> > Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the regular

> > version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the same.

> >

> > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard

models

> > were:

> > SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT

> > BAT CAPACITY – AUTO

> > BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID

> > CHARGE RATE – 80%

> >

> > The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV series.

> > This series looks almost the same as the original RV and largely

has

> > the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is that

> > it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few

enhancements

> > made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming.

> >

> > Both models were designed for RV use.

> >

> > "RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the

> > cost be?"

> >

> > You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you do not

> > have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing

a "google"

> > search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer

available

> > as they have been obsolete for awhile now.

> >

> > It would be good to update the system rather than repair the

freedom

> > if they are really 15 years old.

> >

> > I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M" model.

> >

> > But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be fine

if

> > an RC7 comes with it.

> >

> > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to

> > include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the

email.

> >

> > Technical Support

> > Customer Service Operations

> > Xantrex Technology Inc.

> > Website: www.xantrex.com

> >

> > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

> > attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may

contain

> > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review,

> > use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the

> > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and

> > destroy all copies of the original message.

> >

> > -----------------------------------------

> >

> > Case number: 00102708

> > Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger

> > Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between the

> > model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older model

or

> > are there significant diffrences between the two units? RV3012 M

be

> > reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost be?Can

the

> > model

> > I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my coach.

> > They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these unites

> > with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I am in

> > the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good time

to

> > do the inverter sysytem.

> > Thanks for your time,

> >

> > Kurt Horvath

> >

> >

> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> > , "Dorn Hetzel"

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> > > From: Nick Klein

> > > Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM

> > > Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [

ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref ]

> > > To: "dorn@"

> > >

> > >

> > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear dorn,

> > >

> > > They are basically exactly the same units, but below is an

> > explanation:

> > >

> > > This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and RV3012M,

which

> > were

> > > 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were only

> > used for

> > > Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series of

> > default

> > > programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section on "RC7

&

> > RC7GS

> > > Setup Menus".)

> > >

> > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.

> > Otherwise they

> > > were physically indistinguishable from the regular version, and

> > had no other

> > > unique features. Warranty is the same.

> > >

> > > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard

> > models were:

> > > SEARCH SENSE - DEFEAT

> > > BAT CAPACITY - AUTO

> > > BAT TYPE - LIQUID LEAD ACID

> > > CHARGE RATE - 80%

> > >

> > > Yes, both models were designed for RV use.

> > >

> > >

> > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure to

> > include the

> > > case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.

> > >

> > >

> > > Technical Support

> > > Customer Service Operations

> > > Xantrex Technology Inc.

> > > Website: www.xantrex.com

> > >

> > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

> > attachments, is

> > > for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain

confidential

> > and

> > > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use,

disclosure or

> > > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended

recipient,

> > please

> > > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the

> > original

> > > message.

> > >

> > > -----------------------------------------

> > >

> > > Case number: 00102618

> > > Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012

> > > Description: Can you explain the differences between RV3012M and

> > other

> > > RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are these

> > models still

> > > suitable for an RV application?

> > >

> >

> >

>

--
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA

[Terry Neal]

Thanks Kurt. Nice report.



I too was getting differing stories from different people. One of the
techs at Xantrex told me Sun Electronics wasn't even an authorized
dealer or distributor & there was no record of them in their
listing. Of course, he didn't speak English that I could understand
real well so he may have be sitting in Bombay? Also, he kept saying
there was no RV 3012 "M" inverter either.



In my PT, to install an inverter outside the engine compartment means I
change a lot of wiring. Yours is probably the same. May be the best
solution though. I was also thinking I may be able to build a
compartment where the Rediline used to be and put it in there? Like
your idea of running a couple of ACs with the Detroit while underway.
I take it you are going to wire your system with the Gen Start
feature. That would be a good idea too.



Do you have a time frame for all of this? I may wait a little while to
see how you accomplish all of the changes. Please share your progress
with us. I much appreciate it.



Terry

Terry Neal

Bozeman, MT

82PT40 6V92TA

74FC34 6V53T











bumpersbird wrote:







Terry,







Here is the responce from Xantrex Customer Serive.







I did buy 2 of these units. They are new in the box and Sun Electric 



is an aurthorized dealer so the warrantie should be good.







I spoke with several tech guys and of course got several diffrent 



answers. About all aspects of these units.







I was most impressed with a guy from Buddy Gregg Motorhomes in 



Knoxville TN. Wayne Clapp a veteran BB Tech. His first question was 



did I plan on keeping the coach? Well of course. Then you must get 



these inverters out of the engine compartment and into one of the 



bays. So were are going the reinvent the wheel. Not really a problem 



the old compartment is really not large enough for the new inveters. 







With the inverter box empty I think I'll throw in a couple more 



Lifeline gell cells. That will make 8 house batts. Wayne also told me 



he can with the addition of a few relays make the AC run on Batts. 



With the additional 2 Lifeline's and the 2 new invetrers running off 



of 8 Batts. in 2, four Batt. banks I should be able to run 2 AC'S. 



The 300 amp alternator should be able to tow the line. I would be 



nice to run the roof air with out the generator. Any help in fuel 



economy is welcomed.







Any body want to buy a electric grill for their coach? Mine is coming 



out, slide and electric components included. 







I also bought 2 RC7/GS controlers off of e-bay. The were the best 



deal for the $'s.







Kurt Horvath



95 PT-42 WLWB







[ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref] 







Dear kurt daniel horvath, 







"Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7."







No , this will not work properly. You are better off trying to locate 



an RC7 by seaching the internet and the many dealers who may have a 



NOS unit.







"Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?"







If the unit is new in the box and purchased from proper dealer who 



purchased it from a Xantrex Distributor than we shall honor the 



warranty.







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--------------- Original Message --------------- 



From: kurt daniel horvath ["kguns%40hughes.net"]





To: "customerservice%40xantrex.com"





Subject: Fw: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref

] 







Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?







----Original Message----



From: "kguns%40hughes.net"



Date: 05/21/2008 3:27 PM



To: <"customerservice%40xantrex.com">



Subj: RE: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]







Dear Mr.Nick Klien.







Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7.



If so, are there any peculiarities involed or is it just a simple 



choice of which control is available.



Yes price is a consideration here the old unites are new and are an 



exceptional deal at this time.







Thank You for your time,



Kurt Horvath







--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",

Terry Neal "bird@..." wrote:



>



> Hi Kurt,



> 



> Did you receive a response from Xantrex about the RC/GS remote to 



> control this RV 3012 M? I am thinking about ordering one too &





replace 



> all of the old components such as the Redline unit in my PT. Can't





find 



> any info about the two working together.



> Terry



> 



> bumpersbird wrote:



> 



> > Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question.



> >



> > I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control

panel



> > the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.



> >



> > According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to

set



> > the inverter/charger to your particular application.



> >



> > Kurt Horvath



> > 95 PT-42



> >



> > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]



> >



> > Dear Kurt Horvath,



> >



> > They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the 



RV3012M



> > model and then the RV 3012 GS :



> >



> > The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units

were 



only



> > used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a 



series



> > of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the

section



> > on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)



> >



> > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.



> > Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the

regular



> > version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the

same.



> >



> > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard 



models



> > were:



> > SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT



> > BAT CAPACITY – AUTO



> > BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID



> > CHARGE RATE – 80%



> >



> > The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV

series.



> > This series looks almost the same as the original RV and

largely 



has



> > the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is

that



> > it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few 



enhancements



> > made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming.



> >



> > Both models were designed for RV use.



> >



> > "RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would

the



> > cost be?"



> >



> > You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you

do not



> > have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing 



a "google"



> > search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer 



available



> > as they have been obsolete for awhile now.



> >



> > It would be good to update the system rather than repair the 



freedom



> > if they are really 15 years old.



> >



> > I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M"

model.



> >



> > But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be

fine 



if



> > an RC7 comes with it.



> >



> > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure

to



> > include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the





email.



> >



> > Technical Support



> > Customer Service Operations



> > Xantrex Technology Inc.



> > Website: www.xantrex.com



> >



> > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any



> > attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may 



contain



> > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized

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> > use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not

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> > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail

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> > destroy all copies of the original message.



> >



> > -----------------------------------------



> >



> > Case number: 00102708



> > Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger



> > Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between

the



> > model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older

model 



or



> > are there significant diffrences between the two units?

RV3012 M 



be



> > reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost

be?Can 



the



> > model



> > I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my

coach.



> > They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these

unites



> > with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I

am in



> > the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good

time 



to



> > do the inverter sysytem.



> > Thanks for your time,



> >



> > Kurt Horvath



> >



> >



> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"





> > <"Wanderlodge"Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,

"Dorn Hetzel" 







> > wrote:



> > >



> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------



> > > From: Nick Klein >



> > > Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM



> > > Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [ 



ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref ]



> > > To: "dorn@" 



> > >



> > >



> > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]



> > >



> > >



> > > Dear dorn,



> > >



> > > They are basically exactly the same units, but below is

an



> > explanation:



> > >



> > > This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and

RV3012M, 



which



> > were



> > > 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were

only



> > used for



> > > Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a

series of



> > default



> > > programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section

on "RC7 



&



> > RC7GS



> > > Setup Menus".)



> > >



> > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the

factory.



> > Otherwise they



> > > were physically indistinguishable from the regular

version, and



> > had no other



> > > unique features. Warranty is the same.



> > >



> > > The "software" defaults which may be different from

standard



> > models were:



> > > SEARCH SENSE - DEFEAT



> > > BAT CAPACITY - AUTO



> > > BAT TYPE - LIQUID LEAD ACID



> > > CHARGE RATE - 80%



> > >



> > > Yes, both models were designed for RV use.



> > >



> > >



> > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make

sure to



> > include the



> > > case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.



> > >



> > >



> > > Technical Support



> > > Customer Service Operations



> > > Xantrex Technology Inc.



> > > Website: www.xantrex.com



> > >



> > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including

any



> > attachments, is



> > > for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain 



confidential



> > and



> > > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, 



disclosure or



> > > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended 



recipient,



> > please



> > > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all

copies of the



> > original



> > > message.



> > >



> > > -----------------------------------------



> > >



> > > Case number: 00102618



> > > Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012



> > > Description: Can you explain the differences between

RV3012M and



> > other



> > > RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are

these



> > models still



> > > suitable for an RV application?



> > >



> >



> >



>