1992 sp?

[Ryan Wright]

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote:
> All I am trying to pass along is if someone finds a well maintained coach,
> pay the money, because you pay now or pay later with these beasts.

Oh, shoot, Leroy, I agree with you 100%. I've said the same thing many
times on this forum, pay extra up front to get a good one, it's always
cheaper in the long run than fixing one up. How much extra, though, is
debatable. You can find really nice coaches with similar features
and excellent maintenance histories that need no work whatsoever with
$30k+ in price difference.

-Ryan
'86 PT-40 8V92

[Gregory OConnor]

Hank, your way off, the 1994 PT is the best bird ever built.

GregoryO'Connor
1994 PT


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Henry Jay Hannigan"
wrote:
>
> Folks:
> Our 1990SP36 is PRICELESS! While we probably could not get
$70,000
> in todays market, it is worth much, much more. It is our M-380
> without any problems. Just looking at the construction of this
bird
> is enough to convince me that it is a jewell! The insulation,
wiring
> bundle, plumbing, levelers, cabinetry, chasis, interior,
> instrumentation and on and on. I am convinced that the SP made
from
> 1989-1992 is one of the BEST Birds ever built! I feel like our SP
is
> almost new. In fact when we pull in RV Parks someone always thinks
it
> is almost new. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to sell it,
just
> trying to let we BIRD owners know that we have GREAT machines
> regardless of the FALLING prices. Hang on to them as you will
not
> find anything better! And, one more thing.....I agree that one
should
> pay a little more and buy a bird that is well taken care of and
ready
> to go instead of buying one that needs a lot of
work......speaking
> from experience with previous FC purchases, that "needing a little
> work" can run into THOUSANDS OF $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
> LOL(in poker it means lots of luck.)
> Regards,
> Hank
> 90SP36 with 41,000 miles
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Donald Spithaler"
> wrote:
> >
> > I think the same as you Leroy. I have an 89 SP 36' & it has been
a
> great
> > coach for the 5 years we have owned it. Never let us down out on
> the road.
> > The Cat is a good engine & low maintenance & the ZF tranny has
been
> good to
> > us also.
> > Don Spithaler
> > 89 SP 36'
> > Butler, PA
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Leroy Eckert
> wrote:
> >
> > > It may be overpriced who knows. From reading your posts I
> gather you are
> > > quite a bit younger than I, and I admire someone who selected
the
> RV
> > > lifestyle far younger that I did. Although I had a hell of a
time
> flying
> > > airplanes all those years, I had to rent a car, a motel and
only
> I know what
> > > else. I wonder sometimes if owning a motor coach would have
been
> better.
> > > Can't look back now because it was fun at the time and time
has
> passed.
> > > All I am trying to pass along is if someone finds a well
> maintained coach,
> > > pay the money, because you pay now or pay later with these
> beasts. Minor
> > > changes to meet your personal taste is cheap compared to
serious
> mechanical
> > > issues.
> > > When I say I have not spent $@#t on my coach in four years I
mean
> it. I
> > > have spent some serious money to update it and add personal
> touches but that
> > > means nothing to the Seller; unless I am the Seller.
> > >
> > > Leroy Eckert
> > > 1990 WB-40 Royale
> > > Dahlonega, GA
> > > Smoke N Mirrors
> > >
> > > --- On *Fri, 6/27/08, Ryan Wright * wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Ryan Wright
> > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1992 sp?
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 7:57 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Leroy,
> > >
> > > Price just seems extreme to me. That's all. I could get an
early
> > > nineties PT-40 for the same price. Saw lots of 'em for sale for
> > > ~$80-$90k a little over a year ago when I was in the market.
I'm
> not
> > > talking about beaters, either. While you wonder why we question
> > > prices, I wonder why people ask so much for their coach that
it
> never
> > > sells and let it sit on the market for years on end. I mean,
it's
> no
> > > sweat off my back, but it does baffle my mind. :-)
> > >
> > > I bought a super clean coach with nothing wrong with it. I
still
> have
> > > to fix things here and there; it's old, things fail, but I'd
turn
> the
> > > key right now and drive cross country without a concern if I
had a
> > > reason to.
> > >
> > > Maybe I'm wrong and someone will run out and give 'em $80k for
> it. I
> > > hope they do, but I suspect we'll see it relisted closer to
$65k-
> 70k
> > > this fall.
> > >
> > > -Ryan
> > > '86 PT-40 8V92
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Leroy Eckert
> com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I continue to wonder why we BB owners keep shooting our feet
> off about
> > > > price. It's your asset. Yes the market is not good. But---
> unless you like
> > > to
> > > > get greasy, roll under the bus every day, and rework the
wheel;
> buy a
> > > > beater. And when you get finished add up you time and
material
> and see
> > > where
> > > > you stand. I purchased my coach over 4 years ago and except
for
> general
> > > > upkeep, I have not spent s@#$ on my bus. I guess that is why
I
> don't ask
> > > for
> > > > help. I paid a fair price at the time. Buy quality, not
trash.
> > > > I bet you could ask Hank in LV whom has an SP for sale for
> $75,000 how a
> > > > good one does. I read a post recently where he is not
concerned
> with
> > > hauling
> > > > it to MT soon. After all, he has been playing poker in
> Australia for a
> > > year.
> > > > He will crank it up and roll. How many others can say and do
> that on this
> > > > forum.
> > > > By reading the posts, not many.
> > > >
> > > > Leroy Eckert
> > > > 1990 WB-40 Royale
> > > > Dahlonega, GA
> > > > Smoke N Mirrors
> > > > I can leave anytime without worries
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

[Gregory OConnor]

I never under stood "pay now or pay later". A priest stood infront
of me holding a wicker basked and uttered the same phrase. I tossed
in another $10. and still no hair. I think you just got to do the
math and be confident you get what you pay for. $10 would have
bought a good hat.

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Wright"
wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Leroy Eckert
wrote:
> > All I am trying to pass along is if someone finds a well
maintained coach,
> > pay the money, because you pay now or pay later with these
beasts.
>
> Oh, shoot, Leroy, I agree with you 100%. I've said the same thing
many
> times on this forum, pay extra up front to get a good one, it's
always
> cheaper in the long run than fixing one up. How much extra,
though, is
> debatable. You can find really nice coaches with similar
features
> and excellent maintenance histories that need no work whatsoever
with
> $30k+ in price difference.
>
> -Ryan
> '86 PT-40 8V92
>

[erniecarpet@...]

In a message dated 6/28/2008 5:03:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, mbulriss@... writes:

BB on-topic, do the BB steel shells keep the little voices out?

I still have ringing in my ears- too much rock and roll?

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Montana

--all steel

full of dogs, and old man

no smoke, though

---

Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars.

[David Brady]

Hey wait a minute...



David Brady

'02 LXi, NC



Gregory OConnor wrote:

Hank, your way off, the 1994 PT is the best bird ever built.



GregoryO'Connor

1994 PT



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"Henry Jay Hannigan"

..> wrote:

>

> Folks:

> Our 1990SP36 is PRICELESS! While we probably could not get

$70,000

> in todays market, it is worth much, much more. It is our M-380

> without any problems. Just looking at the construction of this

bird

> is enough to convince me that it is a jewell! The insulation,

wiring

> bundle, plumbing, levelers, cabinetry, chasis, interior,

> instrumentation and on and on. I am convinced that the SP made

from

> 1989-1992 is one of the BEST Birds ever built! I feel like our SP

is

> almost new. In fact when we pull in RV Parks someone always thinks


it

> is almost new. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to sell it,

just

> trying to let we BIRD owners know that we have GREAT machines

> regardless of the FALLING prices. Hang on to them as you will

not

> find anything better! And, one more thing.....I agree that one

should

> pay a little more and buy a bird that is well taken care of and

ready

> to go instead of buying one that needs a lot of

work......speaking

> from experience with previous FC purchases, that "needing a little


> work" can run into THOUSANDS OF $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

> LOL(in poker it means lots of luck.)

> Regards,

> Hank

> 90SP36 with 41,000 miles

>

>

>

>

>

> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"Donald Spithaler"

> > wrote:

> >

> > I think the same as you Leroy. I have an 89 SP 36' & it
has been

a

> great

> > coach for the 5 years we have owned it. Never let us down out
on

> the road.

> > The Cat is a good engine & low maintenance & the ZF
tranny has

been

> good to

> > us also.

> > Don Spithaler

> > 89 SP 36'

> > Butler, PA

> >

> > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Leroy Eckert >


> wrote:

> >

> > > It may be overpriced who knows. From reading your posts
I

> gather you are

> > > quite a bit younger than I, and I admire someone who
selected

the

> RV

> > > lifestyle far younger that I did. Although I had a hell
of a

time

> flying

> > > airplanes all those years, I had to rent a car, a motel
and

only

> I know what

> > > else. I wonder sometimes if owning a motor coach would
have

been

> better.

> > > Can't look back now because it was fun at the time and
time

has

> passed.

> > > All I am trying to pass along is if someone finds a well


> maintained coach,

> > > pay the money, because you pay now or pay later with
these

> beasts. Minor

> > > changes to meet your personal taste is cheap compared to


serious

> mechanical

> > > issues.

> > > When I say I have not spent $@#t on my coach in four
years I

mean

> it. I

> > > have spent some serious money to update it and add
personal

> touches but that

> > > means nothing to the Seller; unless I am the Seller.

> > >

> > > Leroy Eckert

> > > 1990 WB-40 Royale

> > > Dahlonega, GA

> > > Smoke N Mirrors

> > >

> > > --- On *Fri, 6/27/08, Ryan Wright >*
wrote:

> > >

> > > From: Ryan Wright >

> > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1992 sp?

> > > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> > > Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 7:57 PM

> > >

> > >

> > > Leroy,

> > >

> > > Price just seems extreme to me. That's all. I could get
an

early

> > > nineties PT-40 for the same price. Saw lots of 'em for
sale for

> > > ~$80-$90k a little over a year ago when I was in the
market.

I'm

> not

> > > talking about beaters, either. While you wonder why we
question

> > > prices, I wonder why people ask so much for their coach
that

it

> never

> > > sells and let it sit on the market for years on end. I
mean,

it's

> no

> > > sweat off my back, but it does baffle my mind. :-)

> > >

> > > I bought a super clean coach with nothing wrong with it.
I

still

> have

> > > to fix things here and there; it's old, things fail, but
I'd

turn

> the

> > > key right now and drive cross country without a concern
if I

had a

> > > reason to.

> > >

> > > Maybe I'm wrong and someone will run out and give 'em
$80k for

> it. I

> > > hope they do, but I suspect we'll see it relisted closer
to

$65k-

> 70k

> > > this fall.

> > >

> > > -Ryan

> > > '86 PT-40 8V92

> > >

> > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Leroy Eckert

yahoo.

> com40yahoo.com>>

> > > wrote:

> > > > I continue to wonder why we BB owners keep shooting
our feet

> off about

> > > > price. It's your asset. Yes the market is not good.
But---

> unless you like

> > > to

> > > > get greasy, roll under the bus every day, and
rework the

wheel;

> buy a

> > > > beater. And when you get finished add up you time
and

material

> and see

> > > where

> > > > you stand. I purchased my coach over 4 years ago
and except

for

> general

> > > > upkeep, I have not spent s@#$ on my bus. I guess
that is why

I

> don't ask

> > > for

> > > > help. I paid a fair price at the time. Buy quality,
not

trash.

> > > > I bet you could ask Hank in LV whom has an SP for
sale for

> $75,000 how a

> > > > good one does. I read a post recently where he is
not

concerned

> with

> > > hauling

> > > > it to MT soon. After all, he has been playing poker
in

> Australia for a

> > > year.

> > > > He will crank it up and roll. How many others can
say and do

> that on this

> > > > forum.

> > > > By reading the posts, not many.

> > > >

> > > > Leroy Eckert

> > > > 1990 WB-40 Royale

> > > > Dahlonega, GA

> > > > Smoke N Mirrors

> > > > I can leave anytime without worries

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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[mbulriss]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> I never under stood "pay now or pay later". A priest stood infront
> of me holding a wicker basked and uttered the same phrase. I tossed
> in another $10. and still no hair. I think you just got to do the
> math and be confident you get what you pay for. $10 would have
> bought a good hat.

Uh, OK,... but this prompts me to ask: Would a good tinfoil hat keep
the little voices out?

BB on-topic, do the BB steel shells keep the little voices out?

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX




>
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Wright"
> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Leroy Eckert
> wrote:
> > > All I am trying to pass along is if someone finds a well
> maintained coach,
> > > pay the money, because you pay now or pay later with these
> beasts.
> >
> > Oh, shoot, Leroy, I agree with you 100%. I've said the same thing
> many
> > times on this forum, pay extra up front to get a good one, it's
> always
> > cheaper in the long run than fixing one up. How much extra,
> though, is
> > debatable. You can find really nice coaches with similar
> features
> > and excellent maintenance histories that need no work whatsoever
> with
> > $30k+ in price difference.
> >
> > -Ryan
> > '86 PT-40 8V92
> >
>

[Pete Masterson]

Not when the "little voice" is coming from the lady in the passenger seat.

Pete Masterson

'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42

El Sobrante CA

"aeonix1@mac.com"

On Jun 28, 2008, at 4:03 PM, mbulriss wrote:

--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", "Gregory OConnor"

wrote:

I never under stood  "pay now or pay later". A priest stood infront 

of me holding a wicker basked and uttered the same phrase. I tossed 

in another $10. and still no hair.  I think you just got to do the 

math and be confident you  get what you pay for.  $10 would have 

bought a good hat.

Uh, OK,... but this prompts me to ask:  Would a good tinfoil hat keep

the little voices out?

BB on-topic, do the BB steel shells keep the little voices out?

Mike Bulriss

1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"

San Antonio, TX

GregoryO'Connor

94ptRomolandCa

--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", "Ryan Wright" 

wrote:

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Leroy Eckert  

wrote:

All I am trying to pass along is if someone finds a well 

maintained coach,

pay the money, because you pay now or pay later with these 

beasts.

Oh, shoot, Leroy, I agree with you 100%. I've said the same thing 

many

times on this forum, pay extra up front to get a good one, it's 

always

cheaper in the long run than fixing one up. How much extra, 

though, is

debatable. You can find really nice coaches with similar 

features

and excellent maintenance histories that need no work whatsoever 

with

$30k+ in price difference.

-Ryan

'86 PT-40 8V92

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[bubblerboy64]

Yep, If you put enough of DuPree's insulation under it. Fact is it
already has the tinfoil on it. Sticks to the scap pretty good too.
Pretty hot for the summer months. Cut and fit and you can also be
creative. Base ball cap, big ole Stetson. I've got a pretty nice
piece of left over I'll mail ya for the project if you feel the need.

Speakin of BB's. I've got mine one year ago today.And talking about
prices. There is one thing to consider guys and we all know it. A
big price does not guarantee a good motor home. There is hopefully a
relationship with price and condition but more important then
anything is know what you are buying before you do, rather then
after. I did more then OK but if I was spending a bunch of money I'd
pay for some professional consulation on this stuff. I wouldn't spend
$100K on anything without "opinions". The more the better. So I don't
thing talking prices has any affect on the market. Guys spending big
bucks on MH's typically aren't "slow". Well, maybe some are, but not
BB buyers. Right?
John Heckman
central Pa
1973 FC
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> wrote:
> >
> > I never under stood "pay now or pay later". A priest stood
infront
> > of me holding a wicker basked and uttered the same phrase. I
tossed
> > in another $10. and still no hair. I think you just got to do
the
> > math and be confident you get what you pay for. $10 would have
> > bought a good hat.
>
> Uh, OK,... but this prompts me to ask: Would a good tinfoil hat
keep
> the little voices out?
>
> BB on-topic, do the BB steel shells keep the little voices out?
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
>
>
> >
> > GregoryO'Connor
> > 94ptRomolandCa
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Wright"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Leroy Eckert
> > wrote:
> > > > All I am trying to pass along is if someone finds a well
> > maintained coach,
> > > > pay the money, because you pay now or pay later with these
> > beasts.
> > >
> > > Oh, shoot, Leroy, I agree with you 100%. I've said the same
thing
> > many
> > > times on this forum, pay extra up front to get a good one, it's
> > always
> > > cheaper in the long run than fixing one up. How much extra,
> > though, is
> > > debatable. You can find really nice coaches with similar
> > features
> > > and excellent maintenance histories that need no work
whatsoever
> > with
> > > $30k+ in price difference.
> > >
> > > -Ryan
> > > '86 PT-40 8V92
> > >
> >
>

[Ryan Wright]

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 4:03 PM, mbulriss <mbulriss@...> wrote:
>
> BB on-topic, do the BB steel shells keep the little voices out?
>

Absolutely. I can't hear the little voices inside of my cell phone
unless I get up next to a window. It's always fun when a friend comes
by to visit while talking on the phone. They'll walk in the bus, take
two steps down the hall and then, "Hello? Hello?"

The bus makes a suitable Faraday cage.

-Ryan