Strange smoke

[brad barton]

Don't know if anyone has had this problem, but my generator apparently "lugged down" for a while.

Yes, I should've used glow plugs, but it had been facing the sun at College Station for hours. It started quickly, then I walked back to the thermostat and toggled through all three zones to change the settings from heat to cool. It took a minute or two to get things started. I went inside the building to take care of business, when someone burst into the restroom and told me my bus was smoking. Diesel smoke black as coal was coming out of the generator roof exhaust.

I immediately shut off the first AC at the cockpit and the generator smoothed out, sped up and the smoke cleared. I had no other trouble and suppose (hope) I didn't do any damage. That has never happened before.

If anyone has any thoughts.....

BradBarton00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...

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[Gregory OConnor]

I think the lug in our case wasnt that it was more effort than the
engine could handle but the demand for more rpm/spinn was so sudden
that the kubota couldnt progressivly turn the turbo to fan the
fire's. the demand prompted dumping too much fuel. the setup on
generator engines are diff than kubota tractors because they are
unmaned and this problem is typical. my kubota driven hydroseed
pumps have centrifugal goveners that 'regulate the release of'
or 'limit the delivery of' more fuel than can burn with that rpms
given air. May be your weights are stuck or sticking.


on a SOB friends '07 coach (Its not the other way), he has one of
those energy managemet systems that shut things down on the demand
side when the amp supply is low. While hooked into shore power one
ac kicking on would shut off other items. turned out to be the start
capacitor in the ac was screwed.
Greg94ptCa

. --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, brad barton
<bbartonwx@...> wrote:
>
> Don't know if anyone has had this problem, but my generator
apparently "lugged down" for a while.
> Yes, I should've used glow plugs, but it had been facing the sun
at College Station for hours. It started quickly, then I walked
back to the thermostat and toggled through all three zones to change
the settings from heat to cool. It took a minute or two to get
things started. I went inside the building to take care of
business, when someone burst into the restroom and told me my bus
was smoking. Diesel smoke black as coal was coming out of the
generator roof exhaust.
> I immediately shut off the first AC at the cockpit and the
generator smoothed out, sped up and the smoke cleared. I had no
other trouble and suppose (hope) I didn't do any damage. That has
never happened before.
> If anyone has any thoughts.....Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...
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[Pete Masterson]

Change the air filter. I, too, got a "your bus is on fire" scare when
excessive black smoke was coming from the generator exhaust. Turns
out, when the air filter gets clogged up, it causes inefficient
combustion in the engine, generating a TON of black smoke. Once
you've replaced the air filter, open the lower exhaust exit, start
the generator, and be prepared for a huge pile of soot to blow out
(something for you to clean up...). You might prefer to locate
yourself where the soot-pile won't present a difficult problem. It
blows a fair way from the exhaust exit. (i.e. don't park next to a
white car.)

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at



On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:37 PM, brad barton wrote:

> Don't know if anyone has had this problem, but my generator
> apparently "lugged down" for a while.
> Yes, I should've used glow plugs, but it had been facing the sun at
> College Station for hours. It started quickly, then I walked back
> to the thermostat and toggled through all three zones to change the
> settings from heat to cool. It took a minute or two to get things
> started. I went inside the building to take care of business, when
> someone burst into the restroom and told me my bus was smoking.
> Diesel smoke black as coal was coming out of the generator roof
> exhaust.
> I immediately shut off the first AC at the cockpit and the
> generator smoothed out, sped up and the smoke cleared. I had no
> other trouble and suppose (hope) I didn't do any damage. That has
> never happened before.
> If anyone has any thoughts.....
>
> Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...

[brad barton]

Thanks Pete. That goes on my to-do list. It sure went away when I temporarily removed the electrical load.

BradBarton00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...

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To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
From: aeonix1@...
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:44:52 -0400
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Strange smoke

Change the air filter. I, too, got a "your bus is on fire" scare when
excessive black smoke was coming from the generator exhaust. Turns
out, when the air filter gets clogged up, it causes inefficient
combustion in the engine, generating a TON of black smoke. Once
you've replaced the air filter, open the lower exhaust exit, start
the generator, and be prepared for a huge pile of soot to blow out
(something for you to clean up...). You might prefer to locate
yourself where the soot-pile won't present a difficult problem. It
blows a fair way from the exhaust exit. (i.e. don't park next to a
white car.)

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
"aeonix1@mac.com"
On the road at

On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:37 PM, brad barton wrote:

> Don't know if anyone has had this problem, but my generator
> apparently "lugged down" for a while.
> Yes, I should've used glow plugs, but it had been facing the sun at
> College Station for hours. It started quickly, then I walked back
> to the thermostat and toggled through all three zones to change the
> settings from heat to cool. It took a minute or two to get things
> started. I went inside the building to take care of business, when
> someone burst into the restroom and told me my bus was smoking.
> Diesel smoke black as coal was coming out of the generator roof
> exhaust.
> I immediately shut off the first AC at the cockpit and the
> generator smoothed out, sped up and the smoke cleared. I had no
> other trouble and suppose (hope) I didn't do any damage. That has
> never happened before.
> If anyone has any thoughts.....
>
> Brad Barton 00LXiDFW "bbartonwx@hotmail.com"

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[brad barton]

Greg,

That sounds reasonable. I'll have it checked. Thanks.

BradBarton00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...

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To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
From: Gregoryoc@...
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:03:08 +0000
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Strange smoke

I think the lug in our case wasnt that it was more effort than the
engine could handle but the demand for more rpm/spinn was so sudden
that the kubota couldnt progressivly turn the turbo to fan the
fire's. the demand prompted dumping too much fuel. the setup on
generator engines are diff than kubota tractors because they are
unmaned and this problem is typical. my kubota driven hydroseed
pumps have centrifugal goveners that 'regulate the release of'
or 'limit the delivery of' more fuel than can burn with that rpms
given air. May be your weights are stuck or sticking.

on a SOB friends '07 coach (Its not the other way), he has one of
those energy managemet systems that shut things down on the demand
side when the amp supply is low. While hooked into shore power one
ac kicking on would shut off other items. turned out to be the start
capacitor in the ac was screwed.
Greg94ptCa

. --- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", brad barton
<bbartonwx@.<WBR>..> wrote:
>
> Don't know if anyone has had this problem, but my generator
apparently "lugged down" for a while.
> Yes, I should've used glow plugs, but it had been facing the sun
at College Station for hours. It started quickly, then I walked
back to the thermostat and toggled through all three zones to change
the settings from heat to cool. It took a minute or two to get
things started. I went inside the building to take care of
business, when someone burst into the restroom and told me my bus
was smoking. Diesel smoke black as coal was coming out of the
generator roof exhaust.
> I immediately shut off the first AC at the cockpit and the
generator smoothed out, sped up and the smoke cleared. I had no
other trouble and suppose (hope) I didn't do any damage. That has
never happened before.
> If anyone has any thoughts.....Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...
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[Pete Masterson]

No load, not much fuel draw, not much air required = no smoke.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Ft. Chiswell, VA



On Oct 26, 2008, at 10:30 AM, brad barton wrote:

> Thanks Pete. That goes on my to-do list. It sure went away when I
> temporarily removed the electrical load.
>
> Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...
>
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> From: aeonix1@...
> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:44:52 -0400
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Strange smoke
>
> Change the air filter. I, too, got a "your bus is on fire" scare when
> excessive black smoke was coming from the generator exhaust. Turns
> out, when the air filter gets clogged up, it causes inefficient
> combustion in the engine, generating a TON of black smoke. Once
> you've replaced the air filter, open the lower exhaust exit, start
> the generator, and be prepared for a huge pile of soot to blow out
> (something for you to clean up...). You might prefer to locate
> yourself where the soot-pile won't present a difficult problem. It
> blows a fair way from the exhaust exit. (i.e. don't park next to a
> white car.)
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at
>
> On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:37 PM, brad barton wrote:
>
> > Don't know if anyone has had this problem, but my generator
> > apparently "lugged down" for a while.
> > Yes, I should've used glow plugs, but it had been facing the sun at
> > College Station for hours. It started quickly, then I walked back
> > to the thermostat and toggled through all three zones to change the
> > settings from heat to cool. It took a minute or two to get things
> > started. I went inside the building to take care of business, when
> > someone burst into the restroom and told me my bus was smoking.
> > Diesel smoke black as coal was coming out of the generator roof
> > exhaust.
> > I immediately shut off the first AC at the cockpit and the
> > generator smoothed out, sped up and the smoke cleared. I had no
> > other trouble and suppose (hope) I didn't do any damage. That has
> > never happened before.
> > If anyone has any thoughts.....
> >
> > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...
>
>
>
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