Check engine light

[Gregory OConnor]

Reduced speed limit implies a low fluid level reading and not a
damage report. Is the puke sight glass clean???? put a wrench on it
and take it out to see if it is truly full or just add 1/2 gallon to
it. Tach may be a completly seperate issue. dont rule out that
possibility. Dan gave good advice on cleaning things and looking for
worn insulation or carbon marks on wires
Seedsman? are you an Agronomist?
GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Steve & Kathy Enfinger"
wrote:
>
> 1991 8V92 DDEC II. "Check engine" light does not go out after 5
seconds
> when ignition turned on ... tachometer inoperative. Engine runs
fine
> but speed restricted to 37 mph (computer I assume). Problem is
> intermittent. After coach sits a few hours when the ignition switch
is
> turned on both the "stop engine" & "check engine" lights will go
out
> (normal sequence) & tach works & engine operation & speed are
normal.
> Then when switched off & re-started only the "check engine" light
comes
> on constantly ... "stop engine" light never comes on ... tach
inop ...
> speed restricted.
>
> I am suspect of a ground problem but don't have a clue where to
start
> the search. I'm also suspect of the DDEC II unit but want it to be
> something much more simple ($$$$).
>
> All fluids normal, no noises, leaks, or performance issues
when "check
> engine" light is off ... but as you can imagine ... 37 mph is very
> restrictive for most travels.
>
> Steve & Kathy Enfinger
> '91 WBSA PT40
>

[jim riordan]

Steve,

I assume that you have also changed your fuel filters. If they are clogged
this will cause a no power situation. I have two the Raycor and a spin
on....just a thought

Jim Riordan
88WLWB XXV
Stuart, Fl.


Gregory OConnor wrote:
Reduced speed limit implies a low fluid level reading and not a
damage report. Is the puke sight glass clean???? put a wrench on it
and take it out to see if it is truly full or just add 1/2 gallon to
it. Tach may be a completly seperate issue. dont rule out that
possibility. Dan gave good advice on cleaning things and looking for
worn insulation or carbon marks on wires
Seedsman? are you an Agronomist?
GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Steve & Kathy Enfinger"
wrote:
>
> 1991 8V92 DDEC II. "Check engine" light does not go out after 5
seconds
> when ignition turned on ... tachometer inoperative. Engine runs
fine
> but speed restricted to 37 mph (computer I assume). Problem is
> intermittent. After coach sits a few hours when the ignition switch
is
> turned on both the "stop engine" & "check engine" lights will go
out
> (normal sequence) & tach works & engine operation & speed are
normal.
> Then when switched off & re-started only the "check engine" light
comes
> on constantly ... "stop engine" light never comes on ... tach
inop ...
> speed restricted.
>
> I am suspect of a ground problem but don't have a clue where to
start
> the search. I'm also suspect of the DDEC II unit but want it to be
> something much more simple ($$$$).
>
> All fluids normal, no noises, leaks, or performance issues
when "check
> engine" light is off ... but as you can imagine ... 37 mph is very
> restrictive for most travels.
>
> Steve & Kathy Enfinger
> '91 WBSA PT40
>






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[patticake592000]

Dan,
My tranny took 7 gallons, the last time I changed it. There was still
fluid in the lines and the cooler, as I did not flush it.
I don't know if it makes a difference if it's a 4 or 5 speed.
Also, you can read your own code, look next to the shift pad.
Steve Gureasko
90WBWL401/2 Jus Chillin
Ponchatoula, La. Just a short piece down the road from you.

[Dan]

Steve, I have a four speed HTB741 and my book says 16 quarts including filter and cooler. When we checked it the fluid would not touch the stick so we added half a gallon to bring it up to the add cold line. The service tech said I don't care what the book says, the dip stick doesn't lie. Still I don't like it when there is an unexplained difference. I also noticed a warning the the owner's manual not to leave the transmission in drive for more than five minutes while stationary because of heat damage. I can see how that could happen in a traffic jam. Five minutes is not so long.

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Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:19 PM

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Re: Check Engine Light

Dan,
My tranny took 7 gallons, the last time I changed it. There was still
fluid in the lines and the cooler, as I did not flush it.
I don't know if it makes a difference if it's a 4 or 5 speed.
Also, you can read your own code, look next to the shift pad.
Steve Gureasko
90WBWL401/2 Jus Chillin
Ponchatoula, La. Just a short piece down the road from you.

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[fishfarm2003]

Hi Dan. As someone who hopes to join this merry band of Wanderlodge owners
someday, the maintenance things really interest me. I was able to find a
"Mechanic's Tips" pamphlet for the 700 series transmissions. It on page 13 says
a severely low level will cause your condition. The lowest fluid capacity it
lists is 30 quarts.
Hope this helps.

http://www.allisontransmission.com/servl...bs&Fi\
leToGet=MT1958EN.pdf

Bob McLaughlin
Homosassa, Fl

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Dan" wrote:
>
> Steve, I have a four speed HTB741 and my book says 16 quarts including filter
and cooler. When we checked it the fluid would not touch the stick so we added
half a gallon to bring it up to the add cold line. The service tech said I
don't care what the book says, the dip stick doesn't lie. Still I don't like it
when there is an unexplained difference. I also noticed a warning the the
owner's manual not to leave the transmission in drive for more than five
minutes while stationary because of heat damage. I can see how that could
happen in a traffic jam. Five minutes is not so long.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: patticake592000
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:19 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Re: Check Engine Light
>
>
>
>
>
> Dan,
> My tranny took 7 gallons, the last time I changed it. There was still
> fluid in the lines and the cooler, as I did not flush it.
> I don't know if it makes a difference if it's a 4 or 5 speed.
> Also, you can read your own code, look next to the shift pad.
> Steve Gureasko
> 90WBWL401/2 Jus Chillin
> Ponchatoula, La. Just a short piece down the road from you.
>
>
>
>
>
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[Dan]

Steve, you are correct. I had to add 2.5 gallons when I checked it hot. I don't understand why the manual says 16 quarts when the real number is 28 quarts. Anyway, thanks for your help and everyone else who replied.

Dan Williams,88wv38,Jackson,MS

----- Original Message -----

From: "sgureasko@gmail.com"

To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"

Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:19 PM

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Re: Check Engine Light

Dan,
My tranny took 7 gallons, the last time I changed it. There was still
fluid in the lines and the cooler, as I did not flush it.
I don't know if it makes a difference if it's a 4 or 5 speed.
Also, you can read your own code, look next to the shift pad.
Steve Gureasko
90WBWL401/2 Jus Chillin
Ponchatoula, La. Just a short piece down the road from you.

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[GARY MINKER]

Ouch, The dipsticks DO lie as the filler tube for these units is custom fabricated and may not necessarily be the right length. My dip tube was broken and re fabricated at one time before I bought the coach and there are variables in filter capacity, pan depth, hose length, in line cooler capacities, etc,etc. They can be close but the dip stick is not the end all score. You have to figure out ( good luck) what is normal for your unit. And yes, low operation will burn up the box. Gary --- On Thu, 5/21/09, fishfarm2003 wrote: From: fishfarm2003 Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Check Engine Light To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 8:40 AM Hi Dan. As someone who hopes to join this merry band of Wanderlodge owners someday, the maintenance things really interest me. I was able to find a "Mechanic's Tips" pamphlet for the 700 series transmissions. It on page 13 says a severely low level will cause your condition. The lowest fluid capacity it lists is 30 quarts. Hope this helps. http://www.allisont ransmission. com/servlet/ DownloadFile? Dir=publications /pubs&FileToGet= MT1958EN. pdf Bob McLaughlin Homosassa, Fl --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Dan" wrote: > > Steve, I have a four speed HTB741 and my book says 16 quarts including filter and cooler. When we checked it the fluid would not touch the stick so we added half a gallon to bring it up to the add cold line. The service tech said I don't care what the book says, the dip stick doesn't lie. Still I don't like it when there is an unexplained difference. I also noticed a warning the the owner's manual not to leave the transmission in drive for more than five minutes while stationary because of heat damage. I can see how that could happen in a traffic jam. Five minutes is not so long. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: patticake592000 > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:19 PM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Re: Check Engine Light > > > > > > Dan, > My tranny took 7 gallons, the last time I changed it. There was still > fluid in the lines and the cooler, as I did not flush it. > I don't know if it makes a difference if it's a 4 or 5 speed. > Also, you can read your own code, look next to the shift pad. > Steve Gureasko > 90WBWL401/2 Jus Chillin > Ponchatoula, La. Just a short piece down the road from you. > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2125 - Release Date: 05/20/09 18:03:00 >