Perkins Gen-set

[dru penland]

Hellos All!

Just got back fro a mini trip and lost one leg of my generator. When I fired it up and transferred from shore to gen, the Perkins took a little dip in rpm and I lost the curb side power. I didn't find any circuit breakers tripped and the volt meter on the info panel shows no voltage on that one side. Are there other protections that could have tripped or am I into major repairs?


Thanks!

Dru and Debora
Corpus Christi, TX
1983 FC 35 RB
Steady Gittin' It!

[Ralph Fullenwider]

Dru:


Have you checked the breakers located in the gen set compartment on the
curb side wall? Re sent those, then if no power, remove the cover and
check voltage on both sides of bother breakers to be sure it is not a
faulty breaker.


Safe travels,


Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider

'84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond"

Duncan, Oklahoma


At 10:18 AM 9/8/2009 -0700, you wrote:

Hellos All!


Just got back fro a mini trip and lost one leg of my generator. When I
fired it up and transferred from shore to gen, the Perkins took a little
dip in rpm and I lost the curb side power. I didn't find any circuit
breakers tripped and the volt meter on the info panel shows no voltage on
that one side. Are there other protections that could have tripped or am
I into major repairs?




Thanks!



Dru and Debora

Corpus Christi, TX

1983 FC 35 RB

Steady Gittin' It!

[dru penland]

Thank you so much, Ralph! I can't wait for the clock to 4 so I can go check it out. I felt sick when this happened to me. I just felt $$$ coming out of my pocket. It appears from the wiring schematic that the fan motor for the generator radiator is 220v. It's running like it always has. If it's truly 220v then I should have full power on the back side of these breakers you are referring to? That would be so FANTASTIC!

Thanks again,

Dru and Debora
Corpus Christi, TX
1983 FC 35 RB
Steady Gittin' It!

---

From: Ralph Fullenwider
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 1:07:52 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Perkins Gen-set

Dru:


Have you checked the breakers located in the gen set compartment on the
curb side wall? Re sent those, then if no power, remove the cover and
check voltage on both sides of bother breakers to be sure it is not a
faulty breaker.


Safe travels,


Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider

'84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond"

Duncan, Oklahoma


At 10:18 AM 9/8/2009 -0700, you wrote:

Hellos All!


Just got back fro a mini trip and lost one leg of my generator. When I
fired it up and transferred from shore to gen, the Perkins took a little
dip in rpm and I lost the curb side power. I didn't find any circuit
breakers tripped and the volt meter on the info panel shows no voltage on
that one side. Are there other protections that could have tripped or am
I into major repairs?




Thanks!



Dru and Debora

Corpus Christi, TX

1983 FC 35 RB

Steady Gittin' It!

[Bernard Haag]

can anyone inform me on how to run the two power converters or where can I have them serviced? thanks..Bernie

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From: Ralph Fullenwider
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 12:07:52 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Perkins Gen-set

Dru:

Have you checked the breakers located in the gen set compartment on the curb side wall? Re sent those, then if no power, remove the cover and check voltage on both sides of bother breakers to be sure it is not a faulty breaker.

Safe travels,

Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider
'84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan, Oklahoma

At 10:18 AM 9/8/2009 -0700, you wrote:

Hellos All!

Just got back fro a mini trip and lost one leg of my generator. When I fired it up and transferred from shore to gen, the Perkins took a little dip in rpm and I lost the curb side power. I didn't find any circuit breakers tripped and the volt meter on the info panel shows no voltage on that one side. Are there other protections that could have tripped or am I into major repairs?


Thanks!

Dru and Debora
Corpus Christi, TX
1983 FC 35 RB
Steady Gittin' It!

[Ralph Fullenwider]

Oh, and reset the lower left GFI breaker in the main panel in the closet,
if it is leg 2.


Safe travels,


Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider

'84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond"

Duncan, Oklahoma


At 11:52 AM 9/8/2009 -0700, you wrote:

Thank you so much, Ralph! I can't
wait for the clock to 4 so I can go check it out. I felt sick when this
happened to me. I just felt $$$ coming out of my pocket. It appears from
the wiring schematic that the fan motor for the generator radiator is
220v. It's running like it always has. If it's truly 220v then I should
have full power on the back side of these breakers you are referring to?
That would be so FANTASTIC!


Thanks again,



Dru and Debora

Corpus Christi, TX

1983 FC 35 RB

Steady Gittin' It!







Dru:


Have you checked the breakers located in the gen set compartment on the
curb side wall? Re sent those, then if no power, remove the cover and
check voltage on both sides of bother breakers to be sure it is not a
faulty breaker.


Safe travels,


Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider

'84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond"

Duncan, Oklahoma


At 10:18 AM 9/8/2009 -0700, you wrote:

Hellos All!


Just got back fro a mini trip and lost one leg of my generator. When I
fired it up and transferred from shore to gen, the Perkins took a little
dip in rpm and I lost the curb side power. I didn't find any circuit
breakers tripped and the volt meter on the info panel shows no voltage on
that one side. Are there other protections that could have tripped or am
I into major repairs?




Thanks!



Dru and Debora

Corpus Christi, TX

1983 FC 35 RB

Steady Gittin' It!

Safe travels,


Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider

'84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond"

Duncan, Oklahoma

[Ralph Fullenwider]

Hi Bernie:

We will need a little more info on your Coach, like year, FC/PT/BMC then we
need to define "converter" do you mean the battery chargers or the
inverters? Are they Trace Heart 2000, 2500 and so forth.

Take a look at my signature line, this give where I am located, give or
take, the type of Coach and year, the info helps to help you.

Safe travels,

Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider
'84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan, Oklahoma

At 11:59 AM 9/8/2009 -0700, you wrote:


>can anyone inform me on how to run the two power converters or where can I
>have them serviced? thanks..Bernie
>
>

[Bernard Haag]

thanks for the quick response, I will get that for you, she is in the shop today....

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From: Ralph Fullenwider
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 2:28:27 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Perkins Gen-set

Hi Bernie:

We will need a little more info on your Coach, like year, FC/PT/BMC then we
need to define "converter" do you mean the battery chargers or the
inverters? Are they Trace Heart 2000, 2500 and so forth.

Take a look at my signature line, this give where I am located, give or
take, the type of Coach and year, the info helps to help you.

Safe travels,

Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider
'84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan, Oklahoma

At 11:59 AM 9/8/2009 -0700, you wrote:

>can anyone inform me on how to run the two power converters or where can I
>have them serviced? thanks..Bernie
>
>

[dru penland]

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!

It's the breaker in the generator house.It won't close the circuit. Looks a little toasty, as well.

Your too good and too kind with your knowledge.Thanks again!

Dru and Debora
Corpus Christi, TX
1983 FC 35 RB
Steady Gittin' It!

---

From: Ralph Fullenwider
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 2:00:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Perkins Gen-set

Oh, and reset the lower left GFI breaker in the main panel in the closet, if it is leg 2.

Safe travels,

Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider
'84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan, Oklahoma

At 11:52 AM 9/8/2009 -0700, you wrote:

Thank you so much, Ralph! I can't wait for the clock to 4 so I can go check it out. I felt sick when this happened to me. I just felt $$$ coming out of my pocket. It appears from the wiring schematic that the fan motor for the generator radiator is 220v. It's running like it always has. If it's truly 220v then I should have full power on the back side of these breakers you are referring to? That would be so FANTASTIC!

Thanks again,

Dru and Debora
Corpus Christi, TX
1983 FC 35 RB
Steady Gittin' It!




Dru:

Have you checked the breakers located in the gen set compartment on the curb side wall? Re sent those, then if no power, remove the cover and check voltage on both sides of bother breakers to be sure it is not a faulty breaker.

Safe travels,

Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider
'84 FC 35
"Ruff Diamond"
Duncan, Oklahoma

At 10:18 AM 9/8/2009 -0700, you wrote:

Hellos All!

Just got back fro a mini trip and lost one leg of my generator. When I fired it up and transferred from shore to gen, the Perkins took a little dip in rpm and I lost the curb side power. I didn't find any circuit breakers tripped and the volt meter on the info panel shows no voltage on that one side. Are there other protections that could have tripped or am I into major repairs?


Thanks!

Dru and Debora
Corpus Christi, TX
1983 FC 35 RB
Steady Gittin' It!

Safe travels,

Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider
'84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan, Oklahoma

[gregoryoconnor]

a blown fuse and circuit breaker are usually the result of a problem and not
the problem.

I once viewed a consumer watchdog news sting where a woman car owner went into
a auto repair shop for 'windshield wiper not turning on repair'. several shops
replaced the news team installed bad fuse and sent her on her way. One shop
spent a methodical 3/4 hour trying to figure why the fuses blew respecting the
customers safety in probable traffic during a downpour which is the test period
for repair. I felt the shops in error were those only replacing the fuse and
not researching or finding the problem.

One issue I know very little about is lost neutral and the return of ac current
thru the other leg????????? A heat cooked breaker can be the genset ambient
environment or the tripping damage of the breaker doing its job

One other issue is the bonding of a genset made ac within a motorhome. I can
only assume that it is to be onboard bonded unlike onboard bonding or shorepower
ac.

Just flipping a switch and repowering 50 amps without finding the problem can
cause 49 amp of hurt when a repeat of the event that caused the trip shows
different result.

I test my swimmingpool light with a tennisball. It's
difficult to get a dog to turn on the toaster in my bus so I would look for the
true problem and not the quick fix.

Greg ofTim&Greg
94ptca


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, dru penland wrote:
>
> THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!
>
> It's the breaker in the generator house. It won't close the circuit. Looks a
little toasty, as well.
>
> Your too good and too kind with your knowledge. Thanks again!
> Dru and Debora
> Corpus Christi, TX
> 1983 FC 35 RB
> Steady Gittin' It!
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ralph Fullenwider
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 2:00:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Perkins Gen-set
>
>
> Oh, and reset the lower left GFI breaker in the main panel in the closet, if
it is leg 2.
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider
> '84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond"
> Duncan, Oklahoma
>
> At 11:52 AM 9/8/2009 -0700, you wrote:
>
>
>
> Thank you so much, Ralph! I can't wait for the clock to 4 so I can go check it
out. I felt sick when this happened to me. I just felt $$$ coming out of my
pocket. It appears from the wiring schematic that the fan motor for the
generator radiator is 220v. It's running like it always has. If it's truly 220v
then I should have full power on the back side of these breakers you are
referring to? That would be so FANTASTIC!
> >
> >Thanks again,
> >
> >Dru and Debora
> >Corpus Christi, TX
> >1983 FC 35 RB
> >Steady Gittin' It!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Dru:
> >
> >Have you checked the breakers located in the gen set compartment on the curb
side wall? Re sent those, then if no power, remove the cover and check voltage
on both sides of bother breakers to be sure it is not a faulty breaker.
> >
> > Safe travels,
> >
> >Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider
> >'84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond"
> >Duncan, Oklahoma
> >
> >At 10:18 AM 9/8/2009 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >Hellos All!
> >>
> >>Just got back fro a mini trip and lost one leg of my generator. When I fired
it up and transferred from shore to gen, the Perkins took a little dip in rpm
and I lost the curb side power. I didn't find any circuit breakers tripped and
the volt meter on the info panel shows no voltage on that one side. Are there
other protections that could have tripped or am I into major repairs?
> >>
> >>
> >>Thanks!
> >>
> >>Dru and Debora
> >>Corpus Christi, TX
> >>1983 FC 35 RB
> >>Steady Gittin' It!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider
> '84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond"
> Duncan, Oklahoma
>

[freewill2008]

I totally agree with Greg about being sure there is not an overload in the bus
causing the tripped breaker - but it is worth noting that AC breakers can run a
bit hot even when the electrical load is within the rating. As a result, the
breaker can "break down" after 26 years and should probably be replaced.

The same is true of the breakers in the panel of your RV or your house. They
don't last forever.

Finally, a breaker is designed to support a continuous load that is 80% of the
rating, so a 50 amp breaker should only be loaded to 40 amps, etc.

Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "gregoryoconnor" wrote:
>
> a blown fuse and circuit breaker are usually the result of a problem and not
the problem.
>
> I once viewed a consumer watchdog news sting where a woman car owner went
into a auto repair shop for 'windshield wiper not turning on repair'. several
shops replaced the news team installed bad fuse and sent her on her way. One
shop spent a methodical 3/4 hour trying to figure why the fuses blew respecting
the customers safety in probable traffic during a downpour which is the test
period for repair. I felt the shops in error were those only replacing the fuse
and not researching or finding the problem.
>
> One issue I know very little about is lost neutral and the return of ac
current thru the other leg????????? A heat cooked breaker can be the genset
ambient environment or the tripping damage of the breaker doing its job
>
> One other issue is the bonding of a genset made ac within a motorhome. I can
only assume that it is to be onboard bonded unlike onboard bonding or shorepower
ac.
>
> Just flipping a switch and repowering 50 amps without finding the problem can
cause 49 amp of hurt when a repeat of the event that caused the trip shows
different result.
>
> I test my swimmingpool light with a tennisball. It's
> difficult to get a dog to turn on the toaster in my bus so I would look for
the true problem and not the quick fix.
>
> Greg ofTim&Greg
> 94ptca
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, dru penland wrote:
> >
> > THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!
> >
> > It's the breaker in the generator house. It won't close the circuit. Looks a
little toasty, as well.
> >
> > Your too good and too kind with your knowledge. Thanks again!
> > Dru and Debora
> > Corpus Christi, TX
> > 1983 FC 35 RB
> > Steady Gittin' It!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Ralph Fullenwider
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 2:00:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Perkins Gen-set
> >
> >
> > Oh, and reset the lower left GFI breaker in the main panel in the closet, if
it is leg 2.
> >
> > Safe travels,
> >
> > Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider
> > '84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond"
> > Duncan, Oklahoma
> >
> > At 11:52 AM 9/8/2009 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you so much, Ralph! I can't wait for the clock to 4 so I can go check
it out. I felt sick when this happened to me. I just felt $$$ coming out of my
pocket. It appears from the wiring schematic that the fan motor for the
generator radiator is 220v. It's running like it always has. If it's truly 220v
then I should have full power on the back side of these breakers you are
referring to? That would be so FANTASTIC!
> > >
> > >Thanks again,
> > >
> > >Dru and Debora
> > >Corpus Christi, TX
> > >1983 FC 35 RB
> > >Steady Gittin' It!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Dru:
> > >
> > >Have you checked the breakers located in the gen set compartment on the
curb side wall? Re sent those, then if no power, remove the cover and check
voltage on both sides of bother breakers to be sure it is not a faulty breaker.
> > >
> > > Safe travels,
> > >
> > >Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider
> > >'84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond"
> > >Duncan, Oklahoma
> > >
> > >At 10:18 AM 9/8/2009 -0700, you wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Hellos All!
> > >>
> > >>Just got back fro a mini trip and lost one leg of my generator. When I
fired it up and transferred from shore to gen, the Perkins took a little dip in
rpm and I lost the curb side power. I didn't find any circuit breakers tripped
and the volt meter on the info panel shows no voltage on that one side. Are
there other protections that could have tripped or am I into major repairs?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Thanks!
> > >>
> > >>Dru and Debora
> > >>Corpus Christi, TX
> > >>1983 FC 35 RB
> > >>Steady Gittin' It!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > Safe travels,
> >
> > Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider
> > '84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond"
> > Duncan, Oklahoma
> >
>