How can I start a DD Series 60 if I run out of fuel?

[Eric]

I have not run this bird out of fuel. I have been known to run the tank pretty
low though. What steps are necessary to restart the DD Series 60 engine in the
event that I should run it out of fuel? Is this when I should use the ether
injection system???

Eric Perplies
96' 42' WBWL

[Bernard Haag]

you need ot take your fuel filters off and refill them, if you completely ran out, if it just started to sput and spirt then fill fuel tank and try to restart but be careful on the time you keep your starter inguaged. Another way is to take WD-40 and spray into Air Cleaner and let her run on that until she picks up prime... --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Eric wrote: From: Eric Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] How can I start a DD Series 60 if I run out of fuel? To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 11:41 PM I have not run this bird out of fuel. I have been known to run the tank pretty low though. What steps are necessary to restart the DD Series 60 engine in the event that I should run it out of fuel? Is this when I should use the ether injection system??? Eric Perplies 96' 42' WBWL

[gregory O]

on many diesels the fuel is used to cool the injectors. on the 3208 the fuel
tank will get warm as the engine runs. the fuel that gets pumped to the injector
pump but doesn't get injected, passes the injectors on its way back to the tank.

On many 1990+ engines the fuel is used also to cool the computer. If the tank is
let to run too low, there is less fuel to deal with the calories so the ability
to adequately dissipate reduced. The tank will get hot to the touch. I cooked
a computer in a 92 N-14 during the $6.00 fuel price period while buying fuel
like a commodity .

my cooked computer was a result not the problem. It is good to always learn the
cause. On my 92N-14 the engineered tank that 'Ford Truck' ( now 'Sterling
truck' installed sent a low fuel signal light and buzzer to the cab. I
previously replaced the OEM tanks with a cool looking aluminum 200 gal set and
never considered hooking up what I thought was a simple "get some fuel" idiot
light and alarm.

Greg
94ptca



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Bernard Haag <bhaagrealtor@...> wrote:
>
> you need ot take your fuel filters off and refill them, if you completely ran
out, if it just started to sput and spirt then fill fuel tank and try to restart
but be careful on the time you keep your starter inguaged. Another way is to
take WD-40 and spray into Air Cleaner and let her run on that until she picks up
prime...
>
> --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Eric wrote:
>
>
> From: Eric > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] How can I start a DD Series 60 if I run out of
fuel?
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 11:41 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have not run this bird out of fuel. I have been known to run the tank pretty
low though. What steps are necessary to restart the DD Series 60 engine in the
event that I should run it out of fuel? Is this when I should use the ether
injection system???
>
> Eric Perplies
> 96' 42' WBWL
>

[ronmarabito2002]

Greg: The man asked a simple question. Give him a simple answer, not a
seminar about why it happened.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "gregory O" wrote:
>
> on many diesels the fuel is used to cool the injectors. on the 3208 the fuel
tank will get warm as the engine runs. the fuel that gets pumped to the injector
pump but doesn't get injected, passes the injectors on its way back to the tank.
>
> On many 1990+ engines the fuel is used also to cool the computer. If the tank
is let to run too low, there is less fuel to deal with the calories so the
ability to adequately dissipate reduced. The tank will get hot to the touch.
I cooked a computer in a 92 N-14 during the $6.00 fuel price period while
buying fuel like a commodity .
>
> my cooked computer was a result not the problem. It is good to always learn
the cause. On my 92N-14 the engineered tank that 'Ford Truck' ( now 'Sterling
truck' installed sent a low fuel signal light and buzzer to the cab. I
previously replaced the OEM tanks with a cool looking aluminum 200 gal set and
never considered hooking up what I thought was a simple "get some fuel" idiot
light and alarm.
>
> Greg
> 94ptca
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Bernard Haag <bhaagrealtor@> wrote:
> >
> > you need ot take your fuel filters off and refill them, if you completely
ran out, if it just started to sput and spirt then fill fuel tank and try to
restart but be careful on the time you keep your starter inguaged. Another way
is to take WD-40 and spray into Air Cleaner and let her run on that until she
picks up prime...
> >
> > --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Eric wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Eric > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] How can I start a DD Series 60 if I run out of
fuel?
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 11:41 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have not run this bird out of fuel. I have been known to run the tank
pretty low though. What steps are necessary to restart the DD Series 60 engine
in the event that I should run it out of fuel? Is this when I should use the
ether injection system???
> >
> > Eric Perplies
> > 96' 42' WBWL
> >
>

[David Brady]

If you're gonna inject ether, make sure the starter is cranking
the engine before you do. If not, the ether can lock up the engine.

David Brady
'02 LXi, NC

-----Original Message-----

From: Bernard Haag <bhaagrealtor>

Sent: Oct 31, 2009 9:41 AM

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] How can I start a DD Series 60 if I run out of fuel?

you need ot take your fuel filters off and refill them, if you completely ran out, if it just started to sput and spirt then fill fuel tank and try to restart but be careful on the time you keep your starter inguaged. Another way is to take WD-40 and spray into Air Cleaner and let her run on that until she picks up prime... --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Eric com> wrote: From: Eric com> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] How can I start a DD Series 60 if I run out of fuel? To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 11:41 PM I have not run this bird out of fuel. I have been known to run the tank pretty low though. What steps are necessary to restart the DD Series 60 engine in the event that I should run it out of fuel? Is this when I should use the ether injection system??? Eric Perplies 96' 42' WBWL

[gregory O]

1.refuel
2.prime
3.purge
4.turn key
Greg 94ptca



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
wrote:
>
> Greg: The man asked a simple question. Give him a simple answer, not a
seminar about why it happened.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "gregory O" wrote:
> >
> > on many diesels the fuel is used to cool the injectors. on the 3208 the fuel
tank will get warm as the engine runs. the fuel that gets pumped to the injector
pump but doesn't get injected, passes the injectors on its way back to the tank.
> >
> > On many 1990+ engines the fuel is used also to cool the computer. If the
tank is let to run too low, there is less fuel to deal with the calories so the
ability to adequately dissipate reduced. The tank will get hot to the touch.
I cooked a computer in a 92 N-14 during the $6.00 fuel price period while
buying fuel like a commodity .
> >
> > my cooked computer was a result not the problem. It is good to always learn
the cause. On my 92N-14 the engineered tank that 'Ford Truck' ( now 'Sterling
truck' installed sent a low fuel signal light and buzzer to the cab. I
previously replaced the OEM tanks with a cool looking aluminum 200 gal set and
never considered hooking up what I thought was a simple "get some fuel" idiot
light and alarm.
> >
> > Greg
> > 94ptca
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Bernard Haag <bhaagrealtor@> wrote:
> > >
> > > you need ot take your fuel filters off and refill them, if you completely
ran out, if it just started to sput and spirt then fill fuel tank and try to
restart but be careful on the time you keep your starter inguaged. Another way
is to take WD-40 and spray into Air Cleaner and let her run on that until she
picks up prime...
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Eric wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Eric > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] How can I start a DD Series 60 if I run out of
fuel?
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 11:41 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have not run this bird out of fuel. I have been known to run the tank
pretty low though. What steps are necessary to restart the DD Series 60 engine
in the event that I should run it out of fuel? Is this when I should use the
ether injection system???
> > >
> > > Eric Perplies
> > > 96' 42' WBWL
> > >
> >
>

[freewill2008]

Greg - Thanks for that great titbit of information. I feel better about hauling
all that fuel around instead of "running on empty".

Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII, 3208 of course.

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "gregory O" wrote:
>
> on many diesels the fuel is used to cool the injectors. on the 3208 the fuel
tank will get warm as the engine runs. the fuel that gets pumped to the injector
pump but doesn't get injected, passes the injectors on its way back to the tank.
>
> On many 1990+ engines the fuel is used also to cool the computer. If the tank
is let to run too low, there is less fuel to deal with the calories so the
ability to adequately dissipate reduced. The tank will get hot to the touch.
I cooked a computer in a 92 N-14 during the $6.00 fuel price period while
buying fuel like a commodity .
>
> my cooked computer was a result not the problem. It is good to always learn
the cause. On my 92N-14 the engineered tank that 'Ford Truck' ( now 'Sterling
truck' installed sent a low fuel signal light and buzzer to the cab. I
previously replaced the OEM tanks with a cool looking aluminum 200 gal set and
never considered hooking up what I thought was a simple "get some fuel" idiot
light and alarm.
>
> Greg
> 94ptca
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Bernard Haag <bhaagrealtor@> wrote:
> >
> > you need ot take your fuel filters off and refill them, if you completely
ran out, if it just started to sput and spirt then fill fuel tank and try to
restart but be careful on the time you keep your starter inguaged. Another way
is to take WD-40 and spray into Air Cleaner and let her run on that until she
picks up prime...
> >
> > --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Eric wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Eric > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] How can I start a DD Series 60 if I run out of
fuel?
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 11:41 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have not run this bird out of fuel. I have been known to run the tank
pretty low though. What steps are necessary to restart the DD Series 60 engine
in the event that I should run it out of fuel? Is this when I should use the
ether injection system???
> >
> > Eric Perplies
> > 96' 42' WBWL
> >
>

[Ron Thompson]

Hey I for one enjoyed that lesson on what happens to the fuel as it is used. I didn't know all that stuff. Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 1995 WLWB 42' (cockyfox@...) --- On Sat, 10/31/09, gregory O wrote: From: gregory O Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: How can I start a DD Series 60 if I run out of fuel? To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 10:56 AM 1.refuel 2.prime 3.purge 4.turn key Greg 94ptca --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "ronmarabito2002" wrote: > > Greg: The man asked a simple question. Give him a simple answer, not a seminar about why it happened. > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "gregory O" wrote: > > > > on many diesels the fuel is used to cool the injectors. on the 3208 the fuel tank will get warm as the engine runs. the fuel that gets pumped to the injector pump but doesn't get injected, passes the injectors on its way back to the tank. > > > > On many 1990+ engines the fuel is used also to cool the computer. If the tank is let to run too low, there is less fuel to deal with the calories so the ability to adequately dissipate reduced. The tank will get hot to the touch. I cooked a computer in a 92 N-14 during the $6.00 fuel price period while buying fuel like a commodity . > > > > my cooked computer was a result not the problem. It is good to always learn the cause. On my 92N-14 the engineered tank that 'Ford Truck' ( now 'Sterling truck') installed sent a low fuel signal light and buzzer to the cab. I previously replaced the OEM tanks with a cool looking aluminum 200 gal set and never considered hooking up what I thought was a simple "get some fuel" idiot light and alarm. > > > > Greg > > 94ptca > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Bernard Haag <bhaagrealtor@ > wrote: > > > > > > you need ot take your fuel filters off and refill them, if you completely ran out, if it just started to sput and spirt then fill fuel tank and try to restart but be careful on the time you keep your starter inguaged. Another way is to take WD-40 and spray into Air Cleaner and let her run on that until she picks up prime... > > > > > > --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Eric wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Eric > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] How can I start a DD Series 60 if I run out of fuel? > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > > > Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 11:41 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not run this bird out of fuel. I have been known to run the tank pretty low though. What steps are necessary to restart the DD Series 60 engine in the event that I should run it out of fuel? Is this when I should use the ether injection system??? > > > > > > Eric Perplies > > > 96' 42' WBWL > > > > > >

[David Brady]

One of the many parameters I can monitor with my
VMSpc is fuel temperature. I pump it in and it's
at a cool 80 deg. I ascend of few hills out west and
it gets hot: 125 to 150 deg F.

I wasn't aware that my DDEC IV is cooled by fuel.
I'll have to investigate this...

Fascinating info.

David Brady
'02 LXi, NC

-----Original Message-----

From: ronmarabito2002

Sent: Oct 31, 2009 10:33 AM

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: How can I start a DD Series 60 if I run out of fuel?

Greg: The man asked a simple question. Give him a simple answer, not a seminar about why it happened.



R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "gregory O" wrote:

>

> on many diesels the fuel is used to cool the injectors. on the 3208 the fuel tank will get warm as the engine runs. the fuel that gets pumped to the injector pump but doesn't get injected, passes the injectors on its way back to the tank.

>

> On many 1990+ engines the fuel is used also to cool the computer. If the tank is let to run too low, there is less fuel to deal with the calories so the ability to adequately dissipate reduced. The tank will get hot to the touch. I cooked a computer in a 92 N-14 during the $6.00 fuel price period while buying fuel like a commodity .

>

> my cooked computer was a result not the problem. It is good to always learn the cause. On my 92N-14 the engineered tank that 'Ford Truck' ( now 'Sterling truck') installed sent a low fuel signal light and buzzer to the cab. I previously replaced the OEM tanks with a cool looking aluminum 200 gal set and never considered hooking up what I thought was a simple "get some fuel" idiot light and alarm.

>

> Greg

> 94ptca

>

>

>

> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Bernard Haag <bhaagrealtor@<wbr>> wrote:

> >

> > you need ot take your fuel filters off and refill them, if you completely ran out, if it just started to sput and spirt then fill fuel tank and try to restart but be careful on the time you keep your starter inguaged. Another way is to take WD-40 and spray into Air Cleaner and let her run on that until she picks up prime...

> >

> > --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Eric > wrote:

> >

> >

> > From: Eric >

> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] How can I start a DD Series 60 if I run out of fuel?

> > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> > Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 11:41 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I have not run this bird out of fuel. I have been known to run the tank pretty low though. What steps are necessary to restart the DD Series 60 engine in the event that I should run it out of fuel? Is this when I should use the ether injection system???

> >

> > Eric Perplies

> > 96' 42' WBWL

> >

>

[Rob Robinson]

I didn't know about that low fuel signal. Learn something new everyday.

2009/10/31 gregory O <"greg@rainbowrv.com">

 

on many diesels the fuel is used to cool the injectors. on the 3208 the fuel tank will get warm as the engine runs. the fuel that gets pumped to the injector pump but doesn't get injected, passes the injectors on its way back to the tank.



On many 1990+ engines the fuel is used also to cool the computer. If the tank is let to run too low, there is less fuel to deal with the calories so the ability to adequately dissipate reduced. The tank will get hot to the touch. I cooked a computer in a 92 N-14 during the $6.00 fuel price period while buying fuel like a commodity .



my cooked computer was a result not the problem. It is good to always learn the cause. On my 92N-14 the engineered tank that 'Ford Truck' ( now 'Sterling truck' installed sent a low fuel signal light and buzzer to the cab. I previously replaced the OEM tanks with a cool looking aluminum 200 gal set and never considered hooking up what I thought was a simple "get some fuel" idiot light and alarm.



Greg

94ptca

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Bernard Haag <bhaagrealtor@...> wrote:

>

> you need ot take your fuel filters  off and refill them, if you completely ran out, if it just started to sput and spirt then fill fuel tank and try to restart but be careful on the time you keep your starter inguaged.  Another way is to take WD-40 and spray into Air Cleaner and let her run on that until she picks up prime...

>

> --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Eric wrote:

>

>

> From: Eric

> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] How can I start a DD Series 60 if I run out of fuel?

> To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 11:41 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> I have not run this bird out of fuel. I have been known to run the tank pretty low though. What steps are necessary to restart the DD Series 60 engine in the event that I should run it out of fuel? Is this when I should use the ether injection system???

>

> Eric Perplies

> 96' 42' WBWL

>

--
Rob, Sue and Joey Robinson
94 WLWB