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1980 33' Newbie with Questions and a funny story.
07-05-2005, 13:57
Post: #1
1980 33' Newbie with Questions and a funny story.
I am a new owner of a 1980 33'. Fairfax, VA
With loads of questions. Would love to hear from anyone.

1. I have a Redline Motor Generator in the front pass. side storage.
It appears to not be working. It has power cord that is plugged into it.

After being repaired will the power cord power any of the outlets?

2. In front of the pass. front seat is a red switch. It pulls 15 amps.
But I have no idea what it runs. Help?

3. The blowers for each of the heaters do not work. Front sofa, dining
area, and bedroom. These are the ones that run off engine heat. Any
idea where the fuse is for these?

4. I had no hot water in the shower. Found the balance valve stuck.
Can I work it with some WD40 a little and replace or should I just
replace the balance valve.

5. I have an outlet under the kitchen sink labeled "Ice Maker Only."
But the Ice Maker is not plugged into it.

6. My gas gauge works great except when I switch to diesel. Then it
pegs to Empty like it is shorted. It is not the sending unit. Other
most likely causes?

Now for my funny story.

First I have never driven a BlueBird before this trip.

I bought the Bird from an individual in Chicago.
Flew to Chicago and drove 750 miles to Fairfax, VA.
About 150 miles into the trip it was snowing and raining hard.
I decided to make a stop to get gas and rest. As I was waiting in line
to get gas the air horn would start to blow ever so lightly. I would
tap the horn button, turn of the engine, and bang on the dash. After a
few minutes it stopped blowing. I was so embarrassed I went to a
different gas station. Once again as I was waiting in line at a truck
stop to get gas, I could hear the air horn blowing again, sometimes
softly, other times full blow.

Finally after several minutes it would stop. So I figured it was a
rain related short.

About 650 miles in the trip my legs were getting cramped so I tried to
stretch them when I was surprised with a full blow from the air horn.

That's when I found the Air Horn Valve on the floor. My short was in
my leg.
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07-05-2005, 14:14
Post: #2
1980 33' Newbie with Questions and a funny story.
I can't help with the questions. But I have felt dumb before. I had the
same issue with the AIR HORN. You are not alone.

Welcome to the Forum!

Curt Sprenger ‘87PT38, Anaheim, Calif.


vabroker1 wrote:

> I am a new owner of a 1980 33'. Fairfax, VA
> With loads of questions. Would love to hear from anyone.
>
> 1. I have a Redline Motor Generator in the front pass. side storage.
> It appears to not be working. It has power cord that is plugged into it.
>
> After being repaired will the power cord power any of the outlets?
>
> 2. In front of the pass. front seat is a red switch. It pulls 15 amps.
> But I have no idea what it runs. Help?
>
> 3. The blowers for each of the heaters do not work. Front sofa, dining
> area, and bedroom. These are the ones that run off engine heat. Any
> idea where the fuse is for these?
>
> 4. I had no hot water in the shower. Found the balance valve stuck.
> Can I work it with some WD40 a little and replace or should I just
> replace the balance valve.
>
> 5. I have an outlet under the kitchen sink labeled "Ice Maker Only."
> But the Ice Maker is not plugged into it.
>
> 6. My gas gauge works great except when I switch to diesel. Then it
> pegs to Empty like it is shorted. It is not the sending unit. Other
> most likely causes?
>
> Now for my funny story.
>
> First I have never driven a BlueBird before this trip.
>
> I bought the Bird from an individual in Chicago.
> Flew to Chicago and drove 750 miles to Fairfax, VA.
> About 150 miles into the trip it was snowing and raining hard.
> I decided to make a stop to get gas and rest. As I was waiting in line
> to get gas the air horn would start to blow ever so lightly. I would
> tap the horn button, turn of the engine, and bang on the dash. After a
> few minutes it stopped blowing. I was so embarrassed I went to a
> different gas station. Once again as I was waiting in line at a truck
> stop to get gas, I could hear the air horn blowing again, sometimes
> softly, other times full blow.
>
> Finally after several minutes it would stop. So I figured it was a
> rain related short.
>
> About 650 miles in the trip my legs were getting cramped so I tried to
> stretch them when I was surprised with a full blow from the air horn.
>
> That's when I found the Air Horn Valve on the floor. My short was in
> my leg.
>
>
>
>
>
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07-05-2005, 14:27
Post: #3
1980 33' Newbie with Questions and a funny story.
I'll try to answer a few of the questions since my Blue Bird is similar.

Chet Geist
1981 FC33, Austin, Texas
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Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] 1980 33' Newbie with Questions and a funny
story.


I am a new owner of a 1980 33'. Fairfax, VA
With loads of questions. Would love to hear from anyone.

1. I have a Redline Motor Generator in the front pass. side storage.
It appears to not be working. It has power cord that is plugged into it.

After being repaired will the power cord power any of the outlets?

Yes, it should run the Ice Maker only.

2. In front of the pass. front seat is a red switch. It pulls 15 amps.
But I have no idea what it runs. Help?

This is your engine heater and warms the 3208 in cold or cool weather for
easier starting.

3. The blowers for each of the heaters do not work. Front sofa, dining
area, and bedroom. These are the ones that run off engine heat. Any
idea where the fuse is for these?

4. I had no hot water in the shower. Found the balance valve stuck.
Can I work it with some WD40 a little and replace or should I just
replace the balance valve.

If this is the Moen valve you can buy a replacement cartridge in most
hardware stores.


5. I have an outlet under the kitchen sink labeled "Ice Maker Only."
But the Ice Maker is not plugged into it.

This is the 110 volt from the Red Line generator.

6. My gas gauge works great except when I switch to diesel. Then it
pegs to Empty like it is shorted. It is not the sending unit. Other
most likely causes?

Now for my funny story.

First I have never driven a BlueBird before this trip.

I bought the Bird from an individual in Chicago.
Flew to Chicago and drove 750 miles to Fairfax, VA.
About 150 miles into the trip it was snowing and raining hard.
I decided to make a stop to get gas and rest. As I was waiting in line
to get gas the air horn would start to blow ever so lightly. I would
tap the horn button, turn of the engine, and bang on the dash. After a
few minutes it stopped blowing. I was so embarrassed I went to a
different gas station. Once again as I was waiting in line at a truck
stop to get gas, I could hear the air horn blowing again, sometimes
softly, other times full blow.

Finally after several minutes it would stop. So I figured it was a
rain related short.

About 650 miles in the trip my legs were getting cramped so I tried to
stretch them when I was surprised with a full blow from the air horn.

That's when I found the Air Horn Valve on the floor. My short was in
my leg.








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07-05-2005, 14:31
Post: #4
1980 33' Newbie with Questions and a funny story.
"VA":
I can only answer a couple of these, but here goes:

On my '83, the red switch in front of the passenger seat runs the
block heater (keeps the water in the block warm in the winter).

You should have a thermostat next to the side door for the engine
heat. Make sure that's turned on. there are also switches that
power the fans and speed next to the registers, that also need to be
switched. I can't tell you where the fuse is...

Hope this helps, if only a little. Glad to have you in the group!

Ken Johnson
'83 FC 33
Midland, MI




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "vabroker1"
wrote:
> I am a new owner of a 1980 33'. Fairfax, VA
> With loads of questions. Would love to hear from anyone.
>
> 1. I have a Redline Motor Generator in the front pass. side
storage.
> It appears to not be working. It has power cord that is plugged
into it.
>
> After being repaired will the power cord power any of the outlets?
>
> 2. In front of the pass. front seat is a red switch. It pulls 15
amps.
> But I have no idea what it runs. Help?
>
> 3. The blowers for each of the heaters do not work. Front sofa,
dining
> area, and bedroom. These are the ones that run off engine heat.
Any
> idea where the fuse is for these?
>
> 4. I had no hot water in the shower. Found the balance valve
stuck.
> Can I work it with some WD40 a little and replace or should I just
> replace the balance valve.
>
> 5. I have an outlet under the kitchen sink labeled "Ice Maker
Only."
> But the Ice Maker is not plugged into it.
>
> 6. My gas gauge works great except when I switch to diesel. Then
it
> pegs to Empty like it is shorted. It is not the sending unit.
Other
> most likely causes?
>
> Now for my funny story.
>
> First I have never driven a BlueBird before this trip.
>
> I bought the Bird from an individual in Chicago.
> Flew to Chicago and drove 750 miles to Fairfax, VA.
> About 150 miles into the trip it was snowing and raining hard.
> I decided to make a stop to get gas and rest. As I was waiting in
line
> to get gas the air horn would start to blow ever so lightly. I
would
> tap the horn button, turn of the engine, and bang on the dash.
After a
> few minutes it stopped blowing. I was so embarrassed I went to a
> different gas station. Once again as I was waiting in line at a
truck
> stop to get gas, I could hear the air horn blowing again,
sometimes
> softly, other times full blow.
>
> Finally after several minutes it would stop. So I figured it was
a
> rain related short.
>
> About 650 miles in the trip my legs were getting cramped so I
tried to
> stretch them when I was surprised with a full blow from the air
horn.
>
> That's when I found the Air Horn Valve on the floor. My short was
in
> my leg.
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07-05-2005, 15:13
Post: #5
1980 33' Newbie with Questions and a funny story.
I have a "Winter/Summer" switch overhead at the drivers seat, the
switch must be in the WINTER position for the chassis heating fans to
be functional. Also, the thermostat on the wall for chasis heat must
be calling for heat.

Thaz how that stuff werks on my Bird anyhow...

Jay Darst
85PT40
Springfield,IL



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "vabroker1"
wrote:
> 3. The blowers for each of the heaters do not work. Front sofa,
dining
> area, and bedroom. These are the ones that run off engine heat. Any
> idea where the fuse is for these?
>
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07-05-2005, 15:24
Post: #6
1980 33' Newbie with Questions and a funny story.
I will try to answer a few of the questions, But your 80 is a little
different than my 88 FC , Redline is before an inverter was used.
It may be better to investigate replacing with a later model DC/AC
inverter.
The switch in the passenger area may be the engine block heater.

The ice maker is plugged into an outlet that is powered by the
Redline Generator or an inverter to make more ice and keep it cold
when not using shore power or when driving on the road.
The shower is like the shower in your home. Take it apart, clean it
an lubricate with silicone grease. I do not think WD40 is good for
the rubber seals.
Hope this helps,

Bill 88 FC Michigan

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger
wrote:
> I can't help with the questions. But I have felt dumb before. I
had the
> same issue with the AIR HORN. You are not alone.
>
> Welcome to the Forum!
>
> Curt Sprenger `87PT38, Anaheim, Calif.
>
>
> vabroker1 wrote:
>
> > I am a new owner of a 1980 33'. Fairfax, VA
> > With loads of questions. Would love to hear from anyone.
> >
> > 1. I have a Redline Motor Generator in the front pass. side
storage.
> > It appears to not be working. It has power cord that is plugged
into it.
> >
> > After being repaired will the power cord power any of the
outlets?
> >
> > 2. In front of the pass. front seat is a red switch. It pulls 15
amps.
> > But I have no idea what it runs. Help?
> >
> > 3. The blowers for each of the heaters do not work. Front sofa,
dining
> > area, and bedroom. These are the ones that run off engine heat.
Any
> > idea where the fuse is for these?
> >
> > 4. I had no hot water in the shower. Found the balance valve
stuck.
> > Can I work it with some WD40 a little and replace or should I
just
> > replace the balance valve.
> >
> > 5. I have an outlet under the kitchen sink labeled "Ice Maker
Only."
> > But the Ice Maker is not plugged into it.
> >
> > 6. My gas gauge works great except when I switch to diesel. Then
it
> > pegs to Empty like it is shorted. It is not the sending unit.
Other
> > most likely causes?
> >
> > Now for my funny story.
> >
> > First I have never driven a BlueBird before this trip.
> >
> > I bought the Bird from an individual in Chicago.
> > Flew to Chicago and drove 750 miles to Fairfax, VA.
> > About 150 miles into the trip it was snowing and raining hard.
> > I decided to make a stop to get gas and rest. As I was waiting
in line
> > to get gas the air horn would start to blow ever so lightly. I
would
> > tap the horn button, turn of the engine, and bang on the dash.
After a
> > few minutes it stopped blowing. I was so embarrassed I went to a
> > different gas station. Once again as I was waiting in line at a
truck
> > stop to get gas, I could hear the air horn blowing again,
sometimes
> > softly, other times full blow.
> >
> > Finally after several minutes it would stop. So I figured it was
a
> > rain related short.
> >
> > About 650 miles in the trip my legs were getting cramped so I
tried to
> > stretch them when I was surprised with a full blow from the air
horn.
> >
> > That's when I found the Air Horn Valve on the floor. My short
was in
> > my leg.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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07-05-2005, 20:43
Post: #7
1980 33' Newbie with Questions and a funny story.
The engine heaters in our WL work as Jay Darst descibed. In addition, we
have to have the ignition in the "on" or acessory position to operate or
test the blowers.

Bill & Rita in Roanoke, VA
1987 FC-35


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07-07-2005, 14:41
Post: #8
1980 33' Newbie with Questions and a funny story.
Thanks for your help. One last question.
Red switch at rear bed bunk.


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Chet Geist"
wrote:
> I'll try to answer a few of the questions since my Blue Bird is
similar.
>
> Chet Geist
> 1981 FC33, Austin, Texas
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of vabroker1
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:58 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] 1980 33' Newbie with Questions and a
funny
> story.
>
>
> I am a new owner of a 1980 33'. Fairfax, VA
> With loads of questions. Would love to hear from anyone.
>
> 1. I have a Redline Motor Generator in the front pass. side
storage.
> It appears to not be working. It has power cord that is plugged
into it.
>
> After being repaired will the power cord power any of the outlets?
>
> Yes, it should run the Ice Maker only.
>
> 2. In front of the pass. front seat is a red switch. It pulls 15
amps.
> But I have no idea what it runs. Help?
>
> This is your engine heater and warms the 3208 in cold or cool
weather for
> easier starting.
>
> 3. The blowers for each of the heaters do not work. Front sofa,
dining
> area, and bedroom. These are the ones that run off engine heat.
Any
> idea where the fuse is for these?
>
> 4. I had no hot water in the shower. Found the balance valve
stuck.
> Can I work it with some WD40 a little and replace or should I just
> replace the balance valve.
>
> If this is the Moen valve you can buy a replacement cartridge in
most
> hardware stores.
>
>
> 5. I have an outlet under the kitchen sink labeled "Ice Maker
Only."
> But the Ice Maker is not plugged into it.
>
> This is the 110 volt from the Red Line generator.
>
> 6. My gas gauge works great except when I switch to diesel. Then
it
> pegs to Empty like it is shorted. It is not the sending unit.
Other
> most likely causes?
>
> Now for my funny story.
>
> First I have never driven a BlueBird before this trip.
>
> I bought the Bird from an individual in Chicago.
> Flew to Chicago and drove 750 miles to Fairfax, VA.
> About 150 miles into the trip it was snowing and raining hard.
> I decided to make a stop to get gas and rest. As I was waiting
in line
> to get gas the air horn would start to blow ever so lightly. I
would
> tap the horn button, turn of the engine, and bang on the dash.
After a
> few minutes it stopped blowing. I was so embarrassed I went to a
> different gas station. Once again as I was waiting in line at a
truck
> stop to get gas, I could hear the air horn blowing again,
sometimes
> softly, other times full blow.
>
> Finally after several minutes it would stop. So I figured it was
a
> rain related short.
>
> About 650 miles in the trip my legs were getting cramped so I
tried to
> stretch them when I was surprised with a full blow from the air
horn.
>
> That's when I found the Air Horn Valve on the floor. My short
was in
> my leg.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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07-07-2005, 14:43
Post: #9
1980 33' Newbie with Questions and a funny story.
Electric hot water heater.

Bill

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wrote:
> Thanks for your help. One last question.
> Red switch at rear bed bunk.
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Chet Geist"
> wrote:
> > I'll try to answer a few of the questions since my Blue Bird is
> similar.
> >
> > Chet Geist
> > 1981 FC33, Austin, Texas
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of vabroker1
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:58 PM
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] 1980 33' Newbie with Questions and
a
> funny
> > story.
> >
> >
> > I am a new owner of a 1980 33'. Fairfax, VA
> > With loads of questions. Would love to hear from anyone.
> >
> > 1. I have a Redline Motor Generator in the front pass. side
> storage.
> > It appears to not be working. It has power cord that is
plugged
> into it.
> >
> > After being repaired will the power cord power any of the
outlets?
> >
> > Yes, it should run the Ice Maker only.
> >
> > 2. In front of the pass. front seat is a red switch. It pulls
15
> amps.
> > But I have no idea what it runs. Help?
> >
> > This is your engine heater and warms the 3208 in cold or cool
> weather for
> > easier starting.
> >
> > 3. The blowers for each of the heaters do not work. Front
sofa,
> dining
> > area, and bedroom. These are the ones that run off engine
heat.
> Any
> > idea where the fuse is for these?
> >
> > 4. I had no hot water in the shower. Found the balance valve
> stuck.
> > Can I work it with some WD40 a little and replace or should I
just
> > replace the balance valve.
> >
> > If this is the Moen valve you can buy a replacement cartridge
in
> most
> > hardware stores.
> >
> >
> > 5. I have an outlet under the kitchen sink labeled "Ice Maker
> Only."
> > But the Ice Maker is not plugged into it.
> >
> > This is the 110 volt from the Red Line generator.
> >
> > 6. My gas gauge works great except when I switch to diesel.
Then
> it
> > pegs to Empty like it is shorted. It is not the sending
unit.
> Other
> > most likely causes?
> >
> > Now for my funny story.
> >
> > First I have never driven a BlueBird before this trip.
> >
> > I bought the Bird from an individual in Chicago.
> > Flew to Chicago and drove 750 miles to Fairfax, VA.
> > About 150 miles into the trip it was snowing and raining hard.
> > I decided to make a stop to get gas and rest. As I was
waiting
> in line
> > to get gas the air horn would start to blow ever so lightly.
I
> would
> > tap the horn button, turn of the engine, and bang on the
dash.
> After a
> > few minutes it stopped blowing. I was so embarrassed I went
to a
> > different gas station. Once again as I was waiting in line at
a
> truck
> > stop to get gas, I could hear the air horn blowing again,
> sometimes
> > softly, other times full blow.
> >
> > Finally after several minutes it would stop. So I figured it
was
> a
> > rain related short.
> >
> > About 650 miles in the trip my legs were getting cramped so I
> tried to
> > stretch them when I was surprised with a full blow from the
air
> horn.
> >
> > That's when I found the Air Horn Valve on the floor. My short
> was in
> > my leg.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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