Dry Camping...How Long?

[Scott Forman]

If the coach batteries were depleated, how long would I have to run
the gen before they were charged enough to crack the engine? Any
idea?


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "fwernlein"
wrote:
>
> Scott, it would be hard to pin down a number...depending on use
> factors and even temp. would have an effect. For my unit, having 6
> paired "sams club" golf cart types, I could go 2 days with
confidence.
>
> The real problem for my FC was not so much the current I used on
> demand, it was the small amp load the FC demanded all the
time...for
> various systems (clocks, monitor panel, alarms) and such. To fix
> this "works as designed" limitation, I installed a solar panel to
> recoop this constant low amp drain. I posted the project in FILES.
I
> am very happy with this "fix". Unless generators are prohibited,
to
> power the microwave or toaster for breakfast/dinner, we usually run
> the generator for 15-20 min. twice a day also.
>
> If you going to live off the batterys, just make sure your
generator
> battery is reliable...then you can always get her started if you
have
> let the main batteries down...nothing ruins a morning than that
sound
> of "no start - clicks only" from your engine and then also the
> generator!
>
> frank
> 85fc33
> woodbridge, va.
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman"
<sforman@r...>
> wrote:
> >
> > My coach has a brand new set of 4 T-105's. About how long could
I
> > expect to 'dry camp' on these batteries and still have enough
juice
> to
> > crank the engine? Assume I am just using interior lights, water
> pump,
> > etc...no inverter items or anything like that.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Scott Forman
> > 82 FC35RB
> > Memphis
> >
>

[fwernlein]

Funny you should ask...after starting gen set and ensuring both my
45amp chargers were on line and charging the batts, it took only
about 15 min. to get enough ump to crank and start. BUT, the OAT
was about 85 degrees F, and my 3208 starts when you just look at the
key...in the winter, much more amps needed and perhaps even need to
use engine pre-heater.

frank
85fc33
woodbridge, va.

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman"
<sforman@r...> wrote:
>
> If the coach batteries were depleated, how long would I have to
run
> the gen before they were charged enough to crack the engine? Any
> idea?
>
>
>

[ronmarabito2002]

First of all. You don't want to depleat your batteries in that
manner. Keep them above 50% discharge and they will last a long time.
We boondock every year at Quartzsite and never have a problem staying
as long as we wish. We just finished an 11 day stay and had more than
1/4th of our water left and only filled our black tank to 1/2. You
must learn to conserve. We run the generator for a couple hours in
the morning and a couple in the evening and the batteries do a
wonderful job.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@r...>
wrote:
>
> If the coach batteries were depleated, how long would I have to run
> the gen before they were charged enough to crack the engine? Any
> idea?
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "fwernlein"
> wrote:
> >
> > Scott, it would be hard to pin down a number...depending on use
> > factors and even temp. would have an effect. For my unit, having 6
> > paired "sams club" golf cart types, I could go 2 days with
> confidence.
> >
> > The real problem for my FC was not so much the current I used on
> > demand, it was the small amp load the FC demanded all the
> time...for
> > various systems (clocks, monitor panel, alarms) and such. To fix
> > this "works as designed" limitation, I installed a solar panel to
> > recoop this constant low amp drain. I posted the project in FILES.
> I
> > am very happy with this "fix". Unless generators are prohibited,
> to
> > power the microwave or toaster for breakfast/dinner, we usually run
> > the generator for 15-20 min. twice a day also.
> >
> > If you going to live off the batterys, just make sure your
> generator
> > battery is reliable...then you can always get her started if you
> have
> > let the main batteries down...nothing ruins a morning than that
> sound
> > of "no start - clicks only" from your engine and then also the
> > generator!
> >
> > frank
> > 85fc33
> > woodbridge, va.
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman"
> <sforman@r...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > My coach has a brand new set of 4 T-105's. About how long could
> I
> > > expect to 'dry camp' on these batteries and still have enough
> juice
> > to
> > > crank the engine? Assume I am just using interior lights, water
> > pump,
> > > etc...no inverter items or anything like that.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Scott Forman
> > > 82 FC35RB
> > > Memphis
> > >
> >
>

[fl_bluebird_1983]

Hey George hows that new coach working out?

Thanks
Bruce

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, George Lowry
wrote:
>
> Not True! The one thing I have learned about BB's is that nothing
is
> standard. Some have a single battery system. Some have a two
battery
> system - House and chassis. On some, the generator starts from the
> house batteries and on some, the generator starts from the chassis
> batteries. Some have a three battery system - House, Chassis, &
> Generator. And some have a two battery system with the house and
> chassis combined and a separate battery for the generator. Some
have
> been modified by owners to some other configuration than factory.
About
> the only absolute statement you can make is that it varies. Our
coach
> is/was an all electric coach - the generator started off the house
> batteries. IMHO, the three battery system is the best with the
ability
> to cross connect and cross charge as necessary.
>
> George Lowry
> '06 Alpine Apex - former owner of '95 WBDA 4203
> Spearfish, SD Enjoying the sun in Palm Springs
>
> Byrne Lobdell wrote:
>
> >Scott; I have dry camped for as much as a week with no problems
with batts. I run the generato every AM for two to threeh hours to
fix coffee and get hot water for shower. On all BB the generator
batts are isolated from the coach batts so even if the coach batts
are down the generator should always start to recharge coach batts to
start drive engine.
> > 1977 35FC
> >
> >Scott Forman <sforman@r...> wrote:
> > Not on a FC
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Samddurrett@a... wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >>Ain't the House batteries seperate from the engine batteries?
> >>SAM68,31FCPortland,TN
> >>
> >>In a message dated 1/30/2006 4:14:10 PM Central Standard Time,
> >>sforman@r... writes:
> >>
> >>My coach has a brand new set of 4 T-105's. About how long could
I
> >>expect to 'dry camp' on these batteries and still have enough
> >>
> >>
> >juice to
> >
> >
> >>crank the engine? Assume I am just using interior lights, water
> >>
> >>
> >pump,
> >
> >
> >>etc...no inverter items or anything like that.
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>Scott Forman
> >>82 FC35RB
> >>Memphis
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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[George Lowry]

Hi Bruce,

We are still debugging it. Love the space with the four slide outs.
What I really love is the "smart-beds". These are the cargo bays that
slide out beyond the room slides so you don't have to get down on your
knees to crawl in. You can stand upright and reach anything you want.
There are four of them and each one is rated at 750 lbs. All you have to
do is push a button and they roll right out or in..... This coach has a
lot of electronics, more than the BB 450. It has the Silverleaf system
that monitors everything; Smart Tire monitors; Reverse Osmosis with auto
tank fill; Waste Master dump system; Glendining cable and hose systems;
Standard with dual DTV systems; HDTV; DVD players; and a lot of other
innovations that I am still learning about. Got an appointment Thursday
to get some of the bugs fixed. We think it will br a great coach for
our full timing....

Thanks for asking,

George Lowry
'06 Alpine Apex Formerly '95 WBDA 4203
Spearfish, SD Still enjoying the weather at Palm Springs TTN.

fl_bluebird_1983 wrote:

>Hey George hows that new coach working out?
>
>Thanks
>Bruce
>
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, George Lowry
>wrote:
>
>
>>Not True! The one thing I have learned about BB's is that nothing
>>
>>
>is
>
>
>>standard. Some have a single battery system. Some have a two
>>
>>
>battery
>
>
>>system - House and chassis. On some, the generator starts from the
>>house batteries and on some, the generator starts from the chassis
>>batteries. Some have a three battery system - House, Chassis, &
>>Generator. And some have a two battery system with the house and
>>chassis combined and a separate battery for the generator. Some
>>
>>
>have
>
>
>>been modified by owners to some other configuration than factory.
>>
>>
>About
>
>
>>the only absolute statement you can make is that it varies. Our
>>
>>
>coach
>
>
>>is/was an all electric coach - the generator started off the house
>>batteries. IMHO, the three battery system is the best with the
>>
>>
>ability
>
>
>>to cross connect and cross charge as necessary.
>>
>>George Lowry
>>'06 Alpine Apex - former owner of '95 WBDA 4203
>>Spearfish, SD Enjoying the sun in Palm Springs
>>
>>Byrne Lobdell wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Scott; I have dry camped for as much as a week with no problems
>>>
>>>
>with batts. I run the generato every AM for two to threeh hours to
>fix coffee and get hot water for shower. On all BB the generator
>batts are isolated from the coach batts so even if the coach batts
>are down the generator should always start to recharge coach batts to
>start drive engine.
>
>
>>> 1977 35FC
>>>
>>>Scott Forman <sforman@r...> wrote:
>>> Not on a FC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Samddurrett@a... wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ain't the House batteries seperate from the engine batteries?
>>>>SAM68,31FCPortland,TN
>>>>
>>>>In a message dated 1/30/2006 4:14:10 PM Central Standard Time,
>>>>sforman@r... writes:
>>>>
>>>>My coach has a brand new set of 4 T-105's. About how long could
>>>>
>>>>
>I
>
>
>>>>expect to 'dry camp' on these batteries and still have enough
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>juice to
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>crank the engine? Assume I am just using interior lights, water
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>pump,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>etc...no inverter items or anything like that.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Scott Forman
>>>>82 FC35RB
>>>>Memphis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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[orbitalsolutions]

George, you have a great coach, congrats. The water making system
you have sounds wonderful.

After reading your post below, my lady friend told me I needed to
trade in my 'old bus' and get a new Alpine!

I guess size really does matter after all...


-James
78FC33SB
LasVegas NV


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, George Lowry
wrote:
>
> Hi Bruce,
>
> We are still debugging it. Love the space with the four slide
outs.
> What I really love is the "smart-beds". These are the cargo bays
that
> slide out beyond the room slides so you don't have to get down on
your
> knees to crawl in. You can stand upright and reach anything you
want.
> There are four of them and each one is rated at 750 lbs. All you
have to
> do is push a button and they roll right out or in..... This coach
has a
> lot of electronics, more than the BB 450. It has the Silverleaf
system
> that monitors everything; Smart Tire monitors; Reverse Osmosis
with auto
> tank fill; Waste Master dump system; Glendining cable and hose
systems;
> Standard with dual DTV systems; HDTV; DVD players; and a lot of
other
> innovations that I am still learning about. Got an appointment
Thursday
> to get some of the bugs fixed. We think it will br a great coach
for
> our full timing....
>
> Thanks for asking,
>
> George Lowry
> '06 Alpine Apex Formerly '95 WBDA 4203
> Spearfish, SD Still enjoying the weather at Palm Springs TTN.