Air horns

[Jeff Miller]

I'm going from memory here, but believe that the foot-button for the
air horn in the '87 is still a valve, not a switch, so operates the
horn directly and has no connection to the electric air-horn valve
nor the selector switch.

The air-horn is actuated electrically by the skinner-valve / solenoid
in the leftmost side of the front overhead bin. Open the left-side
access panel and look left, ... way left, two wires and two black
1/4" air lines. It might be a sticky valve.

- Jeff Miller
in Holland, MI


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
wrote:
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> Dick:
> Ok, it's not the air transfer valve because the foot air horn
works properly. I wouldn't think it's in the horn button because
the electric horn works properly. Hummm, I'm trying to come up with
a reason why it would be the selector switch because it its on or
off. Sounds like it may be something in between. Wish I had my
diagrams here.
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> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB40
> Niceville, FL
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> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB40
> Niceville, FL
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Hayden
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Air horns
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> Thanks for the reply Leroy. It seems that the dash switch might
be going bad. When it is in the "air horn" position it sticks on for
varying amounts of time. When the dash switch is in the "electric
horn" position, everything seems to be normal. No prolonged blasts.
Maybe something is touching the switch terminal and giving it a
resistance ground or the switch itself is dirty inside and by tapping
the wheel it vibrates it and moves away and stops the air horn.
Strange though that it wouldn't do the same thing when the electric
horn is used. Anyway, everything works properly when the switch is in
the electric position and I can still use the air horn using the foot
switch.
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> Thanx again.
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> Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Leroy Eckert
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> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Air horns
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> Dick:
> I don't have my diagrams in front of me but following the theory
that air horns do not blow without air , I would look for a valve
that transfers coach air to the horns. See how it is configured. It
must have input and output air and at least two wires, one for the
foot switch and one for the horn button. Track the wires back and go
from there. Sounds like something is holding the valve open, or if
it's near the wheel after you whack it the valve closes. That would
indicate internal valve problems. Mine has another switch that
changes the wheel horn button from air to electric. The foot air horn
remains operating on air so I can play them together. Hope this guess
helps you.
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> Leroy Eckert
> 1990WB40
> Niceville, FL
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Hayden
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> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Air horns
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> PS - I'm not so smart alter all - NO RELAY. Now what? Both horns
stay on after button or foot switch is released and bumping the
steering wheel stops them. Any suggestions?
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> Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Hayden>
> To:
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> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 12:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Air horns
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> Thanks Kevin,
> I just discovered that I also have Grover horns. The product
sheet in the Blue Box indicated Jabsco and I was just going by that.
Then I climbed up there and dissembled the non working horn and
discovered it was a Grover. I tried to call them but it must have
been lunch hour. I'll try again later. My problem now seems to be a
sticking relay. They blow for quite a long time. My wife discovered
that hitting the steering wheel would make them stop which probably
means that the relay is close enough to the steering column to be
jarred by hitting the wheel. Oh well, I'll keep looking.
> My guess is that Grover may have made air horns for Jabsco at one
time and don't now. Years ago I installed Jabsco horns on several
boats including my own. But, that was a long time ago in another life.
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> Thanx again.
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> Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
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> My 86PT has airhorns manufactured by Grover...give them a
call...they might
> have parts or help in finding what you need.. Their website is:
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> _www.groverproducts.com_
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> Good luck....
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> Kevin Mc
> YL CA
> 86 38PT
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