Air horns
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08-21-2006, 14:19
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Air horns
I first thought that it might be a sticky air valve too Jeff. However, with the
switch in the "electric" position the air horns work properly, and the electric horns work properly as well. The print that I got from Earl Davis shows an electric switch on the floor. But, I have not visually verified that. Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Miller To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 6:13 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Air horns I'm going from memory here, but believe that the foot-button for the air horn in the '87 is still a valve, not a switch, so operates the horn directly and has no connection to the electric air-horn valve nor the selector switch. The air-horn is actuated electrically by the skinner-valve / solenoid in the leftmost side of the front overhead bin. Open the left-side access panel and look left, ... way left, two wires and two black 1/4" air lines. It might be a sticky valve. - Jeff Miller in Holland, MI --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com "Leroy Eckert" > > Dick: > Ok, it's not the air transfer valve because the foot air horn works properly. I wouldn't think it's in the horn button because the electric horn works properly. Hummm, I'm trying to come up with a reason why it would be the selector switch because it its on or off. Sounds like it may be something in between. Wish I had my diagrams here. > > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB40 > Niceville, FL > > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB40 > Niceville, FL > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Hayden > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:13 PM > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Air horns > > > Thanks for the reply Leroy. It seems that the dash switch might be going bad. When it is in the "air horn" position it sticks on for varying amounts of time. When the dash switch is in the "electric horn" position, everything seems to be normal. No prolonged blasts. Maybe something is touching the switch terminal and giving it a resistance ground or the switch itself is dirty inside and by tapping the wheel it vibrates it and moves away and stops the air horn. Strange though that it wouldn't do the same thing when the electric horn is used. Anyway, everything works properly when the switch is in the electric position and I can still use the air horn using the foot switch. > > Thanx again. > > Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Leroy Eckert > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com om> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:43 PM > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Air horns > > Dick: > I don't have my diagrams in front of me but following the theory that air horns do not blow without air , I would look for a valve that transfers coach air to the horns. See how it is configured. It must have input and output air and at least two wires, one for the foot switch and one for the horn button. Track the wires back and go from there. Sounds like something is holding the valve open, or if it's near the wheel after you whack it the valve closes. That would indicate internal valve problems. Mine has another switch that changes the wheel horn button from air to electric. The foot air horn remains operating on air so I can play them together. Hope this guess helps you. > > Leroy Eckert > 1990WB40 > Niceville, FL > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Hayden > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com om> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 2:50 PM > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Air horns > > PS - I'm not so smart alter all - NO RELAY. Now what? Both horns stay on after button or foot switch is released and bumping the steering wheel stops them. Any suggestions? > > Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Hayden > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com om> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 12:24 PM > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Air horns > > Thanks Kevin, > I just discovered that I also have Grover horns. The product sheet in the Blue Box indicated Jabsco and I was just going by that. Then I climbed up there and dissembled the non working horn and discovered it was a Grover. I tried to call them but it must have been lunch hour. I'll try again later. My problem now seems to be a sticking relay. They blow for quite a long time. My wife discovered that hitting the steering wheel would make them stop which probably means that the relay is close enough to the steering column to be jarred by hitting the wheel. Oh well, I'll keep looking. > My guess is that Grover may have made air horns for Jabsco at one time and don't now. Years ago I installed Jabsco horns on several boats including my own. But, that was a long time ago in another life. > > Thanx again. > > Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: krminyl@... > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com om> hoogroups.com>> odgeForum@yahoogroups.com lto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 11:48 AM > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Air horns > > My 86PT has airhorns manufactured by Grover...give them a call...they might > have parts or help in finding what you need.. Their website is: > > _www.groverproducts.com_ (http://www.groverproducts.com<http://www.groverproducts.com/><http://wwwgroverp\ roducts.com/<http://www.groverproducts.com/>> wwwgroverproducts.com/<http://www.groverproducts.com/<http://www.groverproducts.\ com/>>><http://wwwgrov<http://wwwgrov/> erproducts.com/<http://wwwgroverproducts.com/<http://wwwgroverproducts.com/>> ts.com/<http://www.groverproducts.com/<http://www.groverproducts.com/>>>>) > > Good luck.... > > Kevin Mc > YL CA > 86 38PT > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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