'80 35FC present parket value help needed please

[one_dusty_hoot]

Jack,
I for one totally disagree with you on "dispute" as
your second post was critical, flaming, and outright
obnoxious.

You claimed to have bought a motorhome for one-half
asking price, then your first post was about what the
present market value was on the one like you bought???

You claim that you do not believe Blue Birds are a
commodity then in the same paragraph tell readers that
you would sell yours.

Gail, who was just getting his breath from a $2900 Bird
deal gone sour buying lesson responded.

O'conner responded in a protective way for Gail's behalf
to proceed with caution or a buying mistake could be made
by him again.

You responded directly to O'conner ending with a salutation
in poor Spanish, Goodbye Chicken Shit.

I have never known anyone or heard of anyone tasting oil and
antifreeze during a pre-purchase inspection so I imagine I too
would step to the non beliver side of the line.

BTW:My opinion of value on an 80FC35 is 18-24K depending on
condition. You may see some higher than this but notice also
that they are "For Sale" not "Sold". Regards.

Bob Janes, 87FC35, Greenville, SC






--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, johngilmoremd@... wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> No dispute here. I've never joined a group before and by the
second
> post had my integrity questioned.
>
> -Jack
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mbulriss@...
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 11:47 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: '80 35FC present parket value help
> needed please
>
> My, my, my! You take the day off and then come home late
Sunday
> night
> and try to get caught up on forum posts..........
>
> You know, it should go without saying, but..... having been on Net
> chat groups for about 12 years now, maybe it's not obvious to
> newcomers to the Net forums these days:
>
> It's really a bad idea on most forums to join on Saturday and by
> Sunday immediately begin cussing out and threatening other members
by
> your third post. IT'S FOR SURE A BAD IDEA ON THIS FORUM. The
> "importance of courtesy toward strangers" portion of the post was
most
> ironic.
>
> NEW MEMBERS - review the Note on "Netiquette" on the forum front
page
> before posting.
>
> Now where did I leave that moderation button?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Bulriss - currently very unhappy WanderlodgeForum Moderator
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, johngilmoremd@ wrote:
> >
> > Aren't you a ripe one?! LOL
> >
> > Strictly my opinion about how to inspect a coach. Why use test
> strips? After all, you base your opinion of the unit on the seller's
> statements.
> >
> > I didn't purchase my coach to "flip" it. I'm not a dealer and I'm
> not on here regularly hawking coaches. I bought a very nice coach
at a
> great price. I've decided that it's in fabulous condition and I
would
> entertain selling it. But I'm happy to keep it and enjoy it myself.
> >
> > Frankly I don't give a rat's ass whether you believe what I have
to
> say or not. If you were in my area I would be more than glad to meet
> with you and instruct you on the importance of courtesy toward
> strangers. But I suspect you are a crochety old fart with nothing
> better to do than use the internet to try and make yourself feel
> important.
> >
> > Adios Pollo Caca,
> >
> > -Jack
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gregoryoc@
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 6:17 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: '80 35FC present parket value
help
> needed please
> >
> > Humble, maybe. Honest only if you say you know nothing about the
> >
> > coach you bought to flip. The nestalgic story was cute. Most of us
> >
> > dont have an aquired taste for glycol, I'll use the test strips
> >
> >
> >
> > Gregory O'Connor
> >
> > 94ptRomolandCa
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, johngilmoremd@ wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Interesting idea of course but not how I do it. I think the
best
> >
> > way to inspect a coach is to climb it, crawl under it, open and
close
> >
> > everything, run all the appliances, switch everything on and off,
> >
> > test everything possible, start it, let it idle, drive it forward
and
> >
> > backward, taste the water and oil, whatever. In short...get dirty!
> >
> > Ask to camp out overnight in the coach and be sure
everything "feels"
> >
> > ok.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Just my humble opinion.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > -Jack
> >
> > >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > > From: Gregoryoc@
> >
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 2:34 PM
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: '80 35FC present parket value
help
> > needed please
> > >
> > > Gail, The best way to inspect a coach is to listen to the
seller.
> > The
> > >
> > > more this guy says the less you can believe. Selling is a
> > behavorial
> > >
> > > science. the last crowd played on your excitement in finding a
good
> > >
> > > deal, and your greed to drop the bus from other buyers view.
They
> > >
> > > obligating you to a 20K deal over the phone in exchange for
> > dropping
> > >
> > > the bus from public bid. You baced the purchase on on word of
> > mouth
> > >
> > > then in the office when things showed up short they got rid of
the
> > >
> > > word of mouth (salesman went home). The dealer played you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is a hearsay approach . you are overhearing a conversation
to
> > >
> > > another and asking the guy to please sell you his bus. If you
are
> > >
> > > ever in the market for a slightly used bobcat tractor give me a
call
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gregory O'Connor
> > >
> > > 94ptRomoland California
> > >
> > > Scots Demolition and Excavation
> > >
> > > - In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, GLOBE1969
> >
> > >
> >
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Hello:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > I am in Austin, Tx I would be interested if you want
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > to sell.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Gail Remy
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > --- johngilmoremd@ wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > Hello Doug,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > I am/was one of those lurkers who was looking.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > Years ago I owned an 83 FC 35. We had a lot of fun
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > and some incredible trips with her. But we sold due
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > to schedule changes and a new baby on the way. Just
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > didn't think we would be camping much for a while.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > So now that we have a spunky 2 year old daughter
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > and 11 year old son we have caught the camping and
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > weekend adventure bug again. This time around I was
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > hunting for something smaller, a travel trailer
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > actually, just to make it easier to store.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > Then like a lead pipe hitting me on the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > head...there was my coach listed on a local site for
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > sale! Not the same one but the same model...an 83 FC
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > 35 in almost perfect condition! I sent an email with
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > 20 questions to the dealer who had accepted it as
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > trade in. They couldn't even answer the questions,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > had no idea.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > Yesterday I took the gang and we had a look at it.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > The experience was so nostalgic that it's hard to
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > describe. None of the "seasoned" salespersons wanted
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > to assist. They knew nothing about it and in fact I
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > believe they were intimidated by the cockpit and the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > intricate workings of the coach. So I got the newbie
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > sales-kid and out into the rain we went. I taught
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > him about the coach over the next 3 hours.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > This gorgeous machine has the 3208 turbo, Jake
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > brake, new fridge, ducted air, nice sound
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > system....the tv over the pilot's chair works and
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > even has a good picture. Back up cam works great and
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > every appliance functions properly. She has the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > original paint and it looks good....orange and
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > brown. Apparently was stored indoors. The diamond
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > plating on top is mint. It has a diamond plated
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > spare tire holder on the top at the back with a
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > winch mechanism to load/unload the spare. I didn't
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > have an opportunity to pull the front panels to
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > verify that the rad is mod for swing out but I did
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > see some hinges which looked like they dropped the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > bumper. So I think it's got the swing out mod. Every
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > switch, button and control that I checked worked
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > fine. Slide out mechanism was smooth and the genny
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > started right up. Doghouse has the original sound
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > and heat proofing material. Front air and heat works
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > great. Even the misters on the wipers work. The
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > interior looks like it has had very little wear.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > Tires are practically new and match all the way
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > around.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > I was stunned. I really couldn't believe how well
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > this baby had been loved over the years. She drove
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > like a dream. So I took a stab at the dealership by
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > asking more questions. When were the injectors last
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > replaced? (2002) Are they sure about the mileage?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > (65K) etc. Well, to make a long story short, I
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > offered them half what they were asking. After
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > several more go 'rounds with the sales manager they
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > accepted the offer.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > Frankly I'm still in disbelief. Now that diesel is
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > back down to $2.39 I'm going to fill the tank and
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > get ready for next weekend.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > That having all been said, this particular coach
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > needs to go to a full timer. It's too sweet to sit
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > and only be occasionally used. I will most likely
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > look to trade it for a toy hauler or outright sale
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > to the right person. I don't see these coaches as
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > just commodities to be bought and sold. They are
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > fine machines and should be owned by individuals who
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > understand and appreciate them.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > So, keep looking. Your bird is out there.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > -Jack
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > 83 FC 35
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > Houston
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > From: dj.long@
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:51 PM
> > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: '80 35FC present
> > > > > parket value help needed please
> > > > >
> > > > > And there are plenty of us lurkers out here look'n
> > > > > for the right bird
> > > > >
> > > > > to pounce on. So don'tbe afraid to list. If it sells
> > > > > for the price
> > > > >
> > > > > you need your happy, if it doesn't you tried and be
> > > > > happy you kept
> > > > >
> > > > > her. If you want more kids I would trade one or two
> > > > > of mine for a
> > > > >
> > > > > good bird.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Doug Long
> > > > >
> > > > > Edmonton
> > > > >
> > > > > Wanabee
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Eric
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > Johnson"
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
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> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > Hello Adria,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > I'm no guru, but I haven't observed that the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > market for preowned
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > BB's has "gone through
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > the floor". The entire motorhome market, just
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > like the house
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > market, is a bit soft now due
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > to higher interest rates and fuel prices, but
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > should come back in
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > time as people and the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > economy adjust to these new realities. The older
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > coaches, if well
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > maintained, are a real
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > bargain as they don't depreciate at anywhere near
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > the rate of a new
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > coach and FC's are
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > fairly fuel efficient as coaches go.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > If I were selling my coach today I would do the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > following:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > 1. Take a good set of interior/exterior photos
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > 2. Draft a complete and accurate description of
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > the coach
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > 3. Collect and organize all available maintenance
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > records
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > 4. Scan BirdConnection, FMCA magazine, WLForum
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > and Vintage Bird
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > listings for
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > comparables.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > 5. Do an advanced search on Ebay for any
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > completed comparable
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > sales.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > 6. Adjust my price up or down against the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > comparable listings for
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > known difficiencies or
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > advantages.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > 7. Take a weekend trip somewhere in the coach
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > with the family and
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > ask myself if I really
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > want to sell it.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > 8. List the coach on all of the sites mentioned
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > in step 4.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > 9. Patiently wait for the right buyer to come
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > along.
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> > >
> >
> > > > > > Regards, Eric in San Antonio
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