From a Moderator - Re: '76 FC33 Wanderlodge for sale - Bidding ends sunday.
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05-31-2007, 07:33
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From a Moderator - Re: '76 FC33 Wanderlodge for sale - Bidding ends sunday.
One Moderator's Opinion:
I left work early yesterday, not feeling well, and was offline until recently. In catching up on the posts from yesterday, I was somewhat dismayed by this thread in regards to what I perceived as 'piling on' of accusations and assumptions, rather than simply asking some questions of the seller - *especially* since he is a forum member. I think opinions are fine, but unfounded speculation/accusations when a simple question would suffice are not. I believe that Ken has openly responded to the posts on this topic in what can only be described as a polite manner, in view of some of the tones in the original posts. If you have any further questions for Ken, feel free to ask them. If anyone now feels a need to rebut Ken's responses, I suggest it would be much better to let this thread die and move on to fixing Birds. Thanks, Mike Bulriss - Moderator 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" San Antonio, TX --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kenneth G Samson" > > my, my, my. is this what passes for sport around here? I've been a > member of this and other wanderlodge forums since buying this coach > last year, but as of late have not been reading the postings. Someone > alerted me to the beating you folks are putting on my coach, otherwise > i wouldn't have known. my dad had a name for folks like you, but i'm > too much a gentleman to repeat it here. I'll just say that a man whose > comments are full of assumptions such as Tom here, only makes an a** > of himself. > > The Romesburgs of West virginia were the original owners of this > coach. In fact, their name is still on the front door of the coach, > and in the paperwork I have, including the original manuals. I've > never met them, but only know what i was told by the second owner, who > bought the coach directly from the wife in 2004, and drove it from WV > to MI, where he spent a couple years getting it ready in anticipation > of retiring from General Motors. The second owner, as i've stated, > lost interest in traveling when his wife unexpectedly passed away. The > man's story was tragic, not something to make a sport about. I spent a > week with him and his brother in northern Michigan before going to > Lansing for a couple months. > > Mrs. Romeburg informed the second owner that the engine, & trans had > been rebuilt shortly before her husband took ill, and they never got a > chance to use the coach much after that. Then the second owner's wife > died before they could take it out on the road full-time, and it sat > for a while longer til i bought it from him last year. From the > information obtained from the second owner, I am guessing that there > is less than 3000 miles on the engine and trans, even though the > rebuilds took place several years ago. in the meantime, before the > second owner's wife got cancer, he had been spending much time and > money getting the coach ready for their full-timing plans, including > installing the rebuilt genset he purchased to replace the old one. HE > is the one that put the new insulation in the doghouse cover and the > generator compartment before installing the rebuilt genset. But you're > smarter than anyone, Tom. it's amazing the 'facts' you can generate > out of thin air without even seeing the coach or asking questions like > a gentleman. > > Speaking of Lansing, you might remember that last summer, i had > contacted the forum for advice about a situation i had with the mall > management, who towed my coach away. I was planning to rename my coach > Bibliolodge, a turn of phrase on the name of my bookstore, > BiblioMarket. Those are the facts, easily obtained simply by ASKING > me. But it's so much easier to just make wild assumptions and stick > your foot in your mouth, isn't it, Tom? > > The coach has been at my maryland property in chestertown since early > winter 2006, where i parked it in front of my barn. The soil here on > the Eastern Shore is sandy, and the ground was wet from a heavy > rainstorm when i parked it here. So YES, the tires have made an small > indentation in the ground. The thing is 15 TONS, Tom. Heavy items DO > tend to compact sand. Get over yourself. > > Just to educate you a little bit, on ebay, when a person lists an item > with a reserve, and a buy-it-now price, then the buy-it-now price will > remain vi sable until the reserve is actually met. however, if the > person lists an item -without- a reserve, as i did, then the > buy-it-now price disappears upon the first bid, which in my case took > place 16 hours after i began the listing. that's why there is no > longer a buy-it-now price. i have not yet modified the website that > has the description and photos, but the buy-it-now option is indeed > expired. > > the coach is registered in north carolina, my second home. I have not > taken the coach TO north carolina, however, so i was unable to get a > current inspection sticker. I have a clear NC title in MY NAME, in MY > possession. So much for your third party conspiracy theories. > > Engaging in character assassination is an ugly, ugly trait to have, > Tom. I'm glad to never have had the displeasure of meeting you. > > Ken > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner > > > > Just a few comments I feel are necessary to start others checking > > this coach closely just in case someone on the forum is looking > > hungrily at this coach and is thinking of bidding. Especially read > > the comments on Ebay at the bottom where potential bidders ask > > questions. The pictures of the coach tell me a lot. > > > > First I believe this is another one of those 3rd person sales. Check > > all of the details and you will see why I believe that. Look at the > > method of payment if you do win the bid? > > > > There is a reserve on the coach since the seller has chosen to hide > > the bidders names and someone supposedly already bid $12,500. He also > > has a "buy-it-now" price in the description off Ebay but there is > > nothing on the Ebay listing to verify that. > > > > I dont believe anyone drove this coach on a trip in 2006 unless they > > drove the coach with no registration since the one on the windshield > > ran out in 2004. > > > > I find it hard to believe the engine was "factory rebuilt" since > > there are no stickers on the valve covers and corrosion and paint > > missing. I believe the engine is the origianal one. > > > > Its hard for me to believe that the engine and generator were rebuilt > > even a long time ago and surely not by the factory when you look at > > the pictures of each. The engine and coach has obviously been driven > > in the salt as there is salt corrosion visible. Look at the > > adjustment rod and nut on the alternator, its severely rusted and has > > not been adjusted for a long time. > > > > The coach has sit in the same place for quite a while as you can see > > by the front tires sunken into the ground. The generator insulation > > was replaced but not recently unless someone could do it without > > removing the generator. > > > > Lots more but what I have described alone makes me suspicious. Of > > course let the buyer beware. If I am incorrect in my comments of the > > coach hopefully the seller will give us the details such as copies of > > the sales receipts for the engine, transmission and generator. > > > > tom warner > > vernon center,ny > > 1985 PT 40 > > > > > > > > At 11:19 AM 5/30/2007, you wrote: > > >NO RESERVE! 1976 FC 33 Blue Bird Wanderlodge > > > > > >A Rebuilt Cat 3208 Diesel engine, Rebuilt Automatic Allison MT - 640 > > >transmission, Rebuilt Onan Emerald Generator, recently replaced 2-way > > >full sized fridge/freezer, New upholstery throughout - simply put - a > > >beautiful coach! > > > > > >See all photos and detailed coach information at > > > > > >'76 FC33 Wanderlodge > > > > > >http://samsonkg.googlepages.com/1976fc33...anderlodge > > > > > >Specifications- > > > > > > Length: 33' > > > Model: Side Bath with separate shower. > > > Suspension: Leaf Spring Suspension > > > Generator: Emerald III Onan Genset. [newly REBUILT replacement, > > >7.5 kw, under 10 hours, separate 30 gallon gas tank for generator fuel] > > > Diesel Fuel Capacity: 150 Gallons > > > Engine: REBUILT Caterpillar 3208-NA - 210 HP naturally aspirated > > > Transmission: REBUILT Allison Automatic 4-speed MT-640 > > >4 speed Allison automatic transmission is solid shifting, and can be > > >manually shifted on mountain passes for more torque if desired. coach > > >obtains consistent 10 / 11 mpg. in last 1500 miles, i used just one > > >and a quarter quarts of oil. > > > doghouse and generator compartment were recently freshly > > >insulated with heavy duty sound/heat insulation. > > > brand new fuel filter just installed 20 miles ago. > > > TWO new full-coach power inverters installed, along with all new > > >batteries. > > > nice aluminum 22.5 Alcoa wheels all around > > > Full air brakes, recently replaced and professionally serviced. > > > 12 gallon water heater, heats by either electric or engine. > > > [take a 'free' hot shower after your drive!] > > > Culligan Water Purifier newly installed. > > > brand new 40 channel CB radio [model TRC-503] > > >[original CB is still installed, but disconnected.] > > > Aircraft-Style Overhead Storage Throughout > > > Fluorescent Direct and Indirect Lighting Throughout with > > >Incandescent Aircraft-Style Reading Lamps at All Seating Positions > > > Household-Grade Plumbing and Electrical Fixtures Throughout > > > 2-way fridge, double bowl sink, microwave with convection, Insta > > >Hot water dispenser > > > high intensity electric remote control searchlight, air horns, > > >fog lights. > > > Full Patio Awning [Zip Dee] and bright Patio Lights > > > large roof mounted storage pod, and two different roof mounted TV > > >antennas. > > > safety rail/rack all the way around the roof. Thick ribbed > > >Aluminum Deck over Steel Roof > > > BONUS: a 20 inch Polaroid LCD [HDTV ready] TV will be included > > >with this motorhome! It is not installed. I had planned to install it > > >on a ceiling mounted flip-down mechanism, but did not get around to > > >finding the mount. in the meantime, i simply set it up on top of the > > >cabinet in the living room and laid it down on a soft blanket while in > > >motion. It works great and gives a very nice picture at any viewing > > >angle. > > > > > > Tankage: > > > Fresh Water- 98 Gallons > > > Gray Water - 60 Gallons > > > Waste Water-42 Gallons > > > LP-45 Gallons [plumbed for external BBQ hookup, too!] > > > > > > - Features- > > > Blue Bird All American Chassis > > > Dual roof airs, blows very COLD! > > > 30 amp service. > > > Engine/Chassis Heaters with Thermostat > > > three zoned propane heaters > > > two clothes closets. > > > nice big heated Ramco remote mirrors [replaced the factory > > >driving mirrors.] > > > All Copper Air and Fuel Lines > > > Urethane Foam Insulation > > > full sized Bed [has mattress in the coach, i forgot to put it > > >back in there when i took the photos this afternoon. i had brought it > > >in the house for a guest to sleep on.] > > > Standard Gas Eye Level microwave Oven with Range > > > Nutone food center power unit built in on counter, with > > > blender and ice crusher attachments for those must-have summer > smoothies! > > > built in ice maker and trash compactor > > >The 2 way refrigerator/freezer is a full sized recent model Norcold > > >replacement with black front panels. > > > > > > -Sound System, Includes: > > > AM/FM Radio, 8-Track Stereo > > > > > > Factory Rebuilt Cat diesel engine and Allison automatic > > >transmission. There are less than 3,000 miles on this engine and > > >transmission. i am the third owner. the first owner had just had the > > >new factory rebuilt engine and transmission installed when he suffered > > >a stroke and could not drive the motorhome anymore. it then sat for > > >about a year until his death. Second owner bought from the original > > >owner's wife in west virginia and drove it to michigan. Preparing the > > >motorhome to travel full time with his wife, second owner had all the > > >upholstery replaced and spent approx. $7500 making upgrades, including > > >a replacement fridge/freezer and the Emerald generator [in the > > >pictures, it appears that the sofa has stains, but it really does not. > > > those are just shadows from the fabric, which is a velvety type of > > >fabric with a slightly raised nap] His wife then found out she had > > >cancer and she died shortly thereafter. Following her death, second > > >owner lost interest in the motorhome and it sat in barn storage at his > > >brother's farm for a couple years. Last July he sold it to me. I > > >drove it approx. 1500 miles since then, including a trip to maryland > > >from michigan. Starts on first roll of the engine every time, and runs > > >very strong. I am selling in order to use the cash proceeds to do > > >repairs and renovations to my home so i can put it on the market. Of > > >course, I'll be buying another Wanderlodge after i sell my home! Once > > >you get a Wanderlodge, you'll never settle for anything less. > > > > > > Includes all original owner's manuals for the coach and other items > > >added to it since then. > > > > > > Known defects: > > > tires need to be replaced. they are weather checked, and > > >although i drove over 1500 miles on them in this condition, i would > > >not recommend the new owner drive them like this for much longer. > > >There are truck tire service centers within 75 miles in any direction > > >away from my home, including Annapolis, Dover, Wilmington, > > >Easton/Salisbury, Philadelphia, Baltimore and Washington DC areas. I > > >highly recommend a stop for fresh tires on your way home. > > > Front roof air is disconnected, and has been for years. it is > > >unknown whether is was working when disconnected by the first owner. > > > small stone chip in one of the front windshields. [no cracks, > > >just the small chip.] > > > Cruise control is present, but disconnected. > > > one Propane Heater [out of three] is not working, probably just > > >needs cleaning. > > > speedometer broke during last trip in September 2006. 860 miles > > >put on since then. [calculated by mapquest when i entered the route i > > >took during the last trip] > > > one air vent cover over the kitchen area is broken. fan and > > >light in that vent still work fine - it's just the plastic lid that is > > >broken. replacements are cheap and available on ebay. > > > rear air conditioner is missing one vent cover. works perfectly > > >fine however, and is very cold. > > > > > >Terms: non-refundable Deposit [10% of starting bid ] to hold the coach > > >is due within 2 days of auction end, either by paypal or overnight > > >mail. [certified check or money order only] Balance due in certified > > >funds within 10 days of auction end, whether you pick up the coach in > > >that time period or not. Winning bidder is responsible for pick up in > > >Worton, MD, just outside of Chestertown. If you so desire, I am happy > > >to help you arrange storage in Chestertown subsequent to your > > >purchase, at your expense, if you will be delayed in picking up the > > >coach. > > > > > >As you would expect on a 30-year-old vehicle, no warranty is expressed > > >or implied. I have represented the vehicle in what I feel is an > > >honest fashion through words and pictures. All pictures were taken > > >May 27, 2007. > > > > > >http://samsonkg.googlepages.com/1976fc33...anderlodge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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