Transporting a new purchase

[bubblerboy64]

Ryan, If you buy a car from a dealer in Pa. the dealer has the
plates and the car is duly registered in your name before you drive
off. Taxes paid and the deal is done. They either transfer your
existing plate off the trade or you buy a new one. And trust me they
call the insurance agent to see that there is a binder in place as
well. I've done this more often then I should have so trust me I know
how to buy cars in Pa. I have bought cars out of state and I
trailered them into Pa. Never sold one to any one out of state so I
have not crossed that bridge. Don't know how I would handle that I
guess I would ask the Pa DMV what is legal. My point is only that
each state is different and I would bet you dimes to donuts that Pa
is not going to allow a guy to legally take the car driving on my
tag, bill of sale or not. If you are really interested I'll call
tomorrow and ask how they would handle that one. Want to bet that
the fellow either has to have a temporary tag from his state (which
really grinds my gears since Pa no longer issues them) or it would
have to be transported on a dealer tag or trailered? Just for fun I
will call.
John Heckman
central Pa
1973 FC
>
> On Dec 6, 2007 4:17 PM, bubblerboy64 wrote:
> >
> > If you happened to be involved in an accident or a traffic
violation
> > and you are pulled over what do they ask for? Your license, your
> > insurance, and your registration. Anyone argue with that? Think a
> > bill of sale is good enough?
>
> Yes, actually, a bill of sale is good enough. Haven't you bought a
car
> from a dealership before? You never leave with a registration, at
> least not in the states I've bought vehicles in. You pay the fees
and
> the registration is mailed to you in a couple of weeks. In the
> meantime you are driving a car that hasn't yet been registered. This
> is allowed because you just bought it and most states - I'll bet
every
> state - has a grace period for vehicle purchases.
>
> So, yes, you show them a recent bill of sale and that's good enough,
> you're on your way.
>
> > I would not sell a car and let a fellow
> > drive it on my registration and I would not ask to do so in
return.
>
> Then how do you ever expect to sell a car? No, you don't give your
> registration paperwork to the guy, but he is technically driving "on
> your registration" as far as the state is concerned until he
registers
> it in his name. Every time you sell a car, do you take the person
down
> to the local DMV and make them transfer it into their name? Would
make
> it awfully hard to sell a car to someone from out of state.
>
> I've sold cars to people from out of state many times. You simply
sign
> the title over and send them on their way. You then fill out a
little
> form at the bottom of the title and mail that to the state - that
> certifies you sold the vehicle to so-and-so on such-and-such date.
> That form is your waiver of liability - if the guy does something
> stupid, he is on the hook even if the registration is still
> technically in your name. Sure, the cops might come by your door but
> you simply say, "I sold it to this guy and mailed the form off
> yesterday." Case closed.
>
> > I don't loan cars to people either but that is essentially what
you
> > are doing legally until the registration is changed over or at
least
> > it could be interpreted that way in the you guess it a "court of
> > law".
>
> No, that's an incorrect statement. You aren't loaning the car to
> anyone. You've signed the title over to them. The car is therefore
> sold. The registration has absolutely nothing to do with ownership.
>
> Once you report to the state that the car has been sold they cancel
> the registration.
>
> This is not rocket science, folks. People have been buying and
selling
> cars for a really long time now. The authorities have it all figured
> out; you don't have to transfer title or registration the second the
> car trades hands. That is what titles and purchase agreements are
for.
> Yes, these can replace the registration for a short period of time
> while you get the car home.
>
> Think about it: If things really worked as poorly as you seem to
think
> they do, nobody could ever buy a car on a weekend or holiday or
after
> 5pm because the local DMV office is closed. Yet people buy cars when
> the DMV is closed ALL THE TIME. In fact I would venture a guess the
> vast majority of cars are sold during evenings and weekends, after
DMV
> hours, and you know what? People get along just fine because it's
not
> illegal anywhere in this country to drive your newly purchased car
> around for a few days until you can get down to the local DMV office
> and get your registration in order.
>
> > I checked with my local DMV in
> > Pa and they told me that as far as Pa was concerned if you did
not
> > have a dealers tag you better have the vehicle trailered.
>
> You talked to some idiot at the DMV office. That does not mean what
he
> said was the law. Call your local police department instead. Tell
them
> you're buying a car from some guy on the other side of the state and
> you need to drive it home but you're picking it up on Saturday and
> won't be able to register it until the DMV opens on Monday. Ask them
> if that's OK. Then you'll have your answer.
>
> > And as far as a binder not being necessary because the insurance
> > company gives you 30 days. I don't trust that one either. I can't
> > repeat "insurance companies are our friends" over and over enough
> > that I want to take any chances with them. So I get the binder in
> > writing which of course you have to have to get that temporary
tag.
>
> You're making this way more difficult than it has to be. My freshly
> signed title has always sufficed in place of a registration and
> insurance cards for my other vehicles have always sufficed in place
of
> an insurance card on the new vehicle I just purchased. Just give the
> cop the "sir yes sir" he wants to hear and you'll be on your merry
> way.
>
> -Ryan
>