Let's get serious
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01-06-2008, 07:00
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Let's get serious
To all Birders
When I read all the posts about BB and its Repair, Costs etc, I can see a lot of interest here. Now, we all know that when you have an older coach, you never know what might crop up. When any one, experienced BB Tech or just a regular Mechanic gets into a piece of older equipment, you never know if doing this or that WILL fix the problem. One might uncover or run into some totally different things. Example: Taking out an inverter might uncover burnt wires or rusted areas that might need fixing also. Therefore, nobody, even BB Techs, could not give an accurate estimate of work to be done, because NO-ONE can see ahead of what might come up. As MH said it, if you got it, it's your baby. So I say, you cannot expect any tech to give you an estimate and expect that to be the final bill. It might cost $200 bucks to fix the alternator, and if that is all that broken, then $200 bucks it is. But what happens when the tech finds the bracket cracked? The bolt holding it, rusted through, now the bill could jump up. Here is where our understanding comes into play. Anyhow, what I hated at old BB is, when they tried to Bull.. me about things that are just plain Baloney. Just the truth please, just the facts please, know what you are talking about. Tranny work. Allison or ZF, each ha sits own experience. BUT, let some one at BB know enough to steer you into the right direction. So if I am a typical person, no mech. skills, I call BB for help on Tranny. Macy should tell me that BB does not do Trannies, but Allison, Phone No :XXXXX or ZF at xxxp Phone: XXXXX can fix your problem. Engine work, same as above. Let DD or Cat do the work but tell us where and what. Lots of birds have still LP Hydronic heat systems. Macy should actually send at least 1 tech to Elkhart and get trained by Mark Dexter in the system. Then at least he could tell us what to do. If the new BB would try and salvage all the old info and publish/ digitize it/ sell it/ make it available to all who might need it, that would be a BIG help. And finally, when Randy would publish his book on Vintage Birds, and how to keep them running, we would all have a base from which to work from. My local garage here charges $60 bucks an hour, has no idea what a BB actually is, except its big and just barely fits into the shop, and I have to supply the parts and info on how to do it. (Changing shocks, fixing alternators, flush cooling system etc.) How many procedures I got off this Forum and then printed it out for the mechanic, is quite a bit. If Macy could get all the old BB stuff together and stored, and all this forum knowledge added to that, and realizing that fixing old things are NOT cut and dry work, but rather an adventure, we could run these birds longer than a DC-3 (70 year old airplane). Back in 04, at the RIV, I witnessed a case where BB was NOT able to re-place some batteries and shock absorbers on a BIG 03 coach. The owner had to drive his toad back home and then retrieve the coach 2 weeks later. This is what burned Jim Magowan off with the old BB system, Being at the factory and not even a lousy battery? Juergen in PA 1991 WLSP36 --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Let's get serious - Mike Hohnstein - 01-05-2008, 15:01
Let's get serious - Curt Sprenger - 01-05-2008, 15:18
Let's get serious - Gregory OConnor - 01-05-2008, 17:19
Let's get serious - rogerwwebb@... - 01-05-2008, 23:02
Let's get serious - brad barton - 01-06-2008, 02:44
Let's get serious - ebirder2000@... - 01-06-2008, 03:09
Let's get serious - susanmarycamilleri - 01-06-2008, 05:05
Let's get serious - Gregory OConnor - 01-06-2008, 05:31
Let's get serious - Pete Masterson - 01-06-2008, 05:38
Let's get serious - Mike Hohnstein - 01-06-2008, 05:50
Let's get serious - Pete Masterson - 01-06-2008, 06:38
Let's get serious - Gregory OConnor - 01-06-2008, 06:41
Let's get serious - Juergen - 01-06-2008 07:00
Let's get serious - Don Bradner - 01-06-2008, 07:01
Let's get serious - Ryan Wright - 01-06-2008, 07:08
Let's get serious - bubblerboy64 - 01-06-2008, 07:09
Let's get serious - Scott Forman - 01-06-2008, 12:47
Let's get serious - Fred Hulse - 01-06-2008, 13:04
Let's get serious - Mike Hohnstein - 01-06-2008, 13:28
Let's get serious - pattypape - 01-06-2008, 14:06
Let's get serious - pattypape - 01-06-2008, 14:10
Let's get serious - William - 01-06-2008, 14:20
Let's get serious - Larry Dill - 01-06-2008, 16:14
Let's get serious - Larry Dill - 01-06-2008, 16:33
Let's get serious - Macy Neshati - 01-07-2008, 05:37
Let's get serious - Macy Neshati - 01-07-2008, 06:33
Let's get serious - Robert Britton - 01-07-2008, 09:58
Let's get serious - Ross MacKillop - 01-07-2008, 10:15
Let's get serious - brad barton - 01-07-2008, 11:51
Let's get serious - Mike Hohnstein - 01-07-2008, 14:58
Let's get serious - Ross Rosano - 01-07-2008, 15:04
Let's get serious - Robert Britton - 01-07-2008, 16:02
Let's get serious - Gregory OConnor - 01-07-2008, 16:44
Let's get serious - Don Bradner - 01-07-2008, 17:57
Let's get serious - Dave Krolick - 01-10-2008, 16:20
Let's get serious - Rick B - 01-11-2008, 02:51
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