RV 3012 M

[bumpersbird]

Yeh they told me the same thing, they guy in Bombay told me it stood
for Mobile.
After a lot of question and some industrial espionage they m stands
for Monaco. They ordered these units for thier coaches with some
specific software defaults. All of these can be reprogramed with the
control units.
According to Xantrex there are only minor and superfical modifactions
to any of the RV series inverters/chargers, from what I understand
it's mostly the control panels.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42 WLWB

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
wrote:
>
> A guy at Sun Electronics said the "M" is for "Marine"
units...interesting.
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:32 AM, bumpersbird
wrote:
>
> > Terry,
> >
> > Here is the responce from Xantrex Customer Serive.
> >
> > I did buy 2 of these units. They are new in the box and Sun
Electric
> > is an aurthorized dealer so the warrantie should be good.
> >
> > I spoke with several tech guys and of course got several diffrent
> > answers. About all aspects of these units.
> >
> > I was most impressed with a guy from Buddy Gregg Motorhomes in
> > Knoxville TN. Wayne Clapp a veteran BB Tech. His first question
was
> > did I plan on keeping the coach? Well of course. Then you must get
> > these inverters out of the engine compartment and into one of the
> > bays. So were are going the reinvent the wheel. Not really a
problem
> > the old compartment is really not large enough for the new
inveters.
> >
> > With the inverter box empty I think I'll throw in a couple more
> > Lifeline gell cells. That will make 8 house batts. Wayne also
told me
> > he can with the addition of a few relays make the AC run on Batts.
> > With the additional 2 Lifeline's and the 2 new invetrers running
off
> > of 8 Batts. in 2, four Batt. banks I should be able to run 2 AC'S.
> > The 300 amp alternator should be able to tow the line. I would be
> > nice to run the roof air with out the generator. Any help in fuel
> > economy is welcomed.
> >
> > Any body want to buy a electric grill for their coach? Mine is
coming
> > out, slide and electric components included.
> >
> > I also bought 2 RC7/GS controlers off of e-bay. The were the best
> > deal for the $'s.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> >
> > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]
> >
> > Dear kurt daniel horvath,
> >
> > "Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7."
> >
> > No , this will not work properly. You are better off trying to
locate
> > an RC7 by seaching the internet and the many dealers who may have
a
> > NOS unit.
> >
> > "Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?"
> >
> > If the unit is new in the box and purchased from proper dealer who
> > purchased it from a Xantrex Distributor than we shall honor the
> > warranty.
> >
> > Xantrex Technical Support
> > Customer Service Operations
> > Xantrex Technology Inc.
> > Email: customerservice@...
> > Website: http://www.xantrex.com
> > t: (360) 925-5097 / (800) 670-0707
> > f: (360) 435-2636
> >
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> > --------------- Original Message ---------------
> > From: kurt daniel horvath [kguns@... ]
> > To: customerservice@...
> > Subject: Fw: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]
> >
> > Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?
> >
> > ----Original Message----
> > From: kguns@...
> > Date: 05/21/2008 3:27 PM
> > To: >
> > Subj: RE: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]
> >
> > Dear Mr.Nick Klien.
> >
> > Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7.
> > If so, are there any peculiarities involed or is it just a simple
> > choice of which control is available.
> > Yes price is a consideration here the old unites are new and are
an
> > exceptional deal at this time.
> >
> > Thank You for your time,
> > Kurt Horvath
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Terry Neal wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Kurt,
> > >
> > > Did you receive a response from Xantrex about the RC/GS remote
to
> > > control this RV 3012 M? I am thinking about ordering one too &
> > replace
> > > all of the old components such as the Redline unit in my PT.
Can't
> > find
> > > any info about the two working together.
> > > Terry
> > >
> > > bumpersbird wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question.
> > > >
> > > > I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control
panel
> > > > the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.
> > > >
> > > > According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to
set
> > > > the inverter/charger to your particular application.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > 95 PT-42
> > > >
> > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]
> > > >
> > > > Dear Kurt Horvath,
> > > >
> > > > They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the
> > RV3012M
> > > > model and then the RV 3012 GS :
> > > >
> > > > The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units
were
> > only
> > > > used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a
> > series
> > > > of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the
section
> > > > on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)
> > > >
> > > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.
> > > > Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the
regular
> > > > version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the
same.
> > > >
> > > > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard
> > models
> > > > were:
> > > > SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT
> > > > BAT CAPACITY – AUTO
> > > > BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID
> > > > CHARGE RATE – 80%
> > > >
> > > > The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV
series.
> > > > This series looks almost the same as the original RV and
largely
> > has
> > > > the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is
that
> > > > it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few
> > enhancements
> > > > made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming.
> > > >
> > > > Both models were designed for RV use.
> > > >
> > > > "RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would
the
> > > > cost be?"
> > > >
> > > > You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you
do not
> > > > have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing
> > a "google"
> > > > search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer
> > available
> > > > as they have been obsolete for awhile now.
> > > >
> > > > It would be good to update the system rather than repair the
> > freedom
> > > > if they are really 15 years old.
> > > >
> > > > I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M"
model.
> > > >
> > > > But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be
fine
> > if
> > > > an RC7 comes with it.
> > > >
> > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure
to
> > > > include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the
> > email.
> > > >
> > > > Technical Support
> > > > Customer Service Operations
> > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.
> > > > Website: http://www.xantrex.com
> > > >
> > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any
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> > contain
> > > > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized
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> > > > use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not
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> > > > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail
and
> > > > destroy all copies of the original message.
> > > >
> > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Case number: 00102708
> > > > Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger
> > > > Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between
the
> > > > model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older
model
> > or
> > > > are there significant diffrences between the two units?
RV3012 M
> > be
> > > > reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost be?
Can
> > the
> > > > model
> > > > I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my
coach.
> > > > They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these
unites
> > > > with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I
am in
> > > > the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good
time
> > to
> > > > do the inverter sysytem.
> > > > Thanks for your time,
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > 2540yahoogroups.com>>,
> > "Dorn Hetzel"
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > > From: Nick Klein
> > > > > Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [
> > ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref ]
> > > > > To: "dorn@"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear dorn,
> > > > >
> > > > > They are basically exactly the same units, but below is an
> > > > explanation:
> > > > >
> > > > > This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and RV3012M,
> > which
> > > > were
> > > > > 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were
only
> > > > used for
> > > > > Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series
of
> > > > default
> > > > > programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section
on "RC7
> > &
> > > > RC7GS
> > > > > Setup Menus".)
> > > > >
> > > > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.
> > > > Otherwise they
> > > > > were physically indistinguishable from the regular version,
and
> > > > had no other
> > > > > unique features. Warranty is the same.
> > > > >
> > > > > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard
> > > > models were:
> > > > > SEARCH SENSE - DEFEAT
> > > > > BAT CAPACITY - AUTO
> > > > > BAT TYPE - LIQUID LEAD ACID
> > > > > CHARGE RATE - 80%
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, both models were designed for RV use.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make
sure to
> > > > include the
> > > > > case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Technical Support
> > > > > Customer Service Operations
> > > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.
> > > > > Website: http://www.xantrex.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any
> > > > attachments, is
> > > > > for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain
> > confidential
> > > > and
> > > > > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use,
> > disclosure or
> > > > > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended
> > recipient,
> > > > please
> > > > > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies
of the
> > > > original
> > > > > message.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Case number: 00102618
> > > > > Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012
> > > > > Description: Can you explain the differences between
RV3012M and
> > > > other
> > > > > RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are these
> > > > models still
> > > > > suitable for an RV application?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
>