RV 3012 M

[bumpersbird]

Terry,

Just to be sure I called Sun Electronics again to verify their status
as a Xanterx dealer and they confirmed that they are a Xantrex dealer.

I would like to get this all done in the next 2 to 3 weeks but if
Icould look into the future, you know what I mean.

I am still working on the engine bay cooling fans and I just got
a '07 DDEC IV ECM with it programing to my coach as a back-up. So
I've got a lot stuff to play with.

Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 WLWB


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Terry Neal wrote:
>
> Thanks Kurt. Nice report.
>
> I too was getting differing stories from different people. One of
the
> techs at Xantrex told me Sun Electronics wasn't even an authorized
> dealer or distributor & there was no record of them in their
listing.
> Of course, he didn't speak English that I could understand real
well so
> he may have be sitting in Bombay? Also, he kept saying there was
no RV
> 3012 "M" inverter either.
>
> In my PT, to install an inverter outside the engine compartment
means I
> change a lot of wiring. Yours is probably the same. May be the
best
> solution though. I was also thinking I may be able to build a
> compartment where the Rediline used to be and put it in there?
Like
> your idea of running a couple of ACs with the Detroit while
underway. I
> take it you are going to wire your system with the Gen Start
feature.
> That would be a good idea too.
>
> Do you have a time frame for all of this? I may wait a little
while to
> see how you accomplish all of the changes. Please share your
progress
> with us. I much appreciate it.
>
> Terry
>
> Terry Neal
> Bozeman, MT
> 82PT40 6V92TA
> 74FC34 6V53T
>
>
>
> bumpersbird wrote:
>
> > Terry,
> >
> > Here is the responce from Xantrex Customer Serive.
> >
> > I did buy 2 of these units. They are new in the box and Sun
Electric
> > is an aurthorized dealer so the warrantie should be good.
> >
> > I spoke with several tech guys and of course got several diffrent
> > answers. About all aspects of these units.
> >
> > I was most impressed with a guy from Buddy Gregg Motorhomes in
> > Knoxville TN. Wayne Clapp a veteran BB Tech. His first question
was
> > did I plan on keeping the coach? Well of course. Then you must get
> > these inverters out of the engine compartment and into one of the
> > bays. So were are going the reinvent the wheel. Not really a
problem
> > the old compartment is really not large enough for the new
inveters.
> >
> > With the inverter box empty I think I'll throw in a couple more
> > Lifeline gell cells. That will make 8 house batts. Wayne also
told me
> > he can with the addition of a few relays make the AC run on Batts.
> > With the additional 2 Lifeline's and the 2 new invetrers running
off
> > of 8 Batts. in 2, four Batt. banks I should be able to run 2 AC'S.
> > The 300 amp alternator should be able to tow the line. I would be
> > nice to run the roof air with out the generator. Any help in fuel
> > economy is welcomed.
> >
> > Any body want to buy a electric grill for their coach? Mine is
coming
> > out, slide and electric components included.
> >
> > I also bought 2 RC7/GS controlers off of e-bay. The were the best
> > deal for the $'s.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> >
> > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]
> >
> > Dear kurt daniel horvath,
> >
> > "Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7."
> >
> > No , this will not work properly. You are better off trying to
locate
> > an RC7 by seaching the internet and the many dealers who may have
a
> > NOS unit.
> >
> > "Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?"
> >
> > If the unit is new in the box and purchased from proper dealer who
> > purchased it from a Xantrex Distributor than we shall honor the
> > warranty.
> >
> > Xantrex Technical Support
> > Customer Service Operations
> > Xantrex Technology Inc.
> > Email: customerservice@...
> > Website: http://www.xantrex.com
> > t: (360) 925-5097 / (800) 670-0707
> > f: (360) 435-2636
> >
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> > --------------- Original Message ---------------
> > From: kurt daniel horvath [kguns@... ]
> > To: customerservice@...
> > Subject: Fw: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]
> >
> > Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?
> >
> > ----Original Message----
> > From: kguns@...
> > Date: 05/21/2008 3:27 PM
> > To: >
> > Subj: RE: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]
> >
> > Dear Mr.Nick Klien.
> >
> > Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7.
> > If so, are there any peculiarities involed or is it just a simple
> > choice of which control is available.
> > Yes price is a consideration here the old unites are new and are
an
> > exceptional deal at this time.
> >
> > Thank You for your time,
> > Kurt Horvath
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > , Terry Neal
wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Kurt,
> > >
> > > Did you receive a response from Xantrex about the RC/GS remote
to
> > > control this RV 3012 M? I am thinking about ordering one too &
> > replace
> > > all of the old components such as the Redline unit in my PT.
Can't
> > find
> > > any info about the two working together.
> > > Terry
> > >
> > > bumpersbird wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question.
> > > >
> > > > I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control
panel
> > > > the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.
> > > >
> > > > According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to
set
> > > > the inverter/charger to your particular application.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > 95 PT-42
> > > >
> > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]
> > > >
> > > > Dear Kurt Horvath,
> > > >
> > > > They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the
> > RV3012M
> > > > model and then the RV 3012 GS :
> > > >
> > > > The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units
were
> > only
> > > > used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a
> > series
> > > > of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the
section
> > > > on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)
> > > >
> > > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.
> > > > Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the
regular
> > > > version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the
same.
> > > >
> > > > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard
> > models
> > > > were:
> > > > SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT
> > > > BAT CAPACITY – AUTO
> > > > BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID
> > > > CHARGE RATE – 80%
> > > >
> > > > The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV
series.
> > > > This series looks almost the same as the original RV and
largely
> > has
> > > > the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is
that
> > > > it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few
> > enhancements
> > > > made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming.
> > > >
> > > > Both models were designed for RV use.
> > > >
> > > > "RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would
the
> > > > cost be?"
> > > >
> > > > You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you
do not
> > > > have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing
> > a "google"
> > > > search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer
> > available
> > > > as they have been obsolete for awhile now.
> > > >
> > > > It would be good to update the system rather than repair the
> > freedom
> > > > if they are really 15 years old.
> > > >
> > > > I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M"
model.
> > > >
> > > > But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be
fine
> > if
> > > > an RC7 comes with it.
> > > >
> > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure
to
> > > > include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the
> > email.
> > > >
> > > > Technical Support
> > > > Customer Service Operations
> > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.
> > > > Website: http://www.xantrex.com
> > > >
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> > > > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail
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> > > > destroy all copies of the original message.
> > > >
> > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Case number: 00102708
> > > > Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger
> > > > Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between
the
> > > > model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older
model
> > or
> > > > are there significant diffrences between the two units?
RV3012 M
> > be
> > > > reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost be?
Can
> > the
> > > > model
> > > > I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my
coach.
> > > > They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these
unites
> > > > with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I
am in
> > > > the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good
time
> > to
> > > > do the inverter sysytem.
> > > > Thanks for your time,
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > , "Dorn Hetzel"
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > > From: Nick Klein
> > > > > Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [
> > ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref ]
> > > > > To: "dorn@"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear dorn,
> > > > >
> > > > > They are basically exactly the same units, but below is an
> > > > explanation:
> > > > >
> > > > > This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and RV3012M,
> > which
> > > > were
> > > > > 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were
only
> > > > used for
> > > > > Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series
of
> > > > default
> > > > > programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section
on "RC7
> > &
> > > > RC7GS
> > > > > Setup Menus".)
> > > > >
> > > > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.
> > > > Otherwise they
> > > > > were physically indistinguishable from the regular version,
and
> > > > had no other
> > > > > unique features. Warranty is the same.
> > > > >
> > > > > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard
> > > > models were:
> > > > > SEARCH SENSE - DEFEAT
> > > > > BAT CAPACITY - AUTO
> > > > > BAT TYPE - LIQUID LEAD ACID
> > > > > CHARGE RATE - 80%
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, both models were designed for RV use.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make
sure to
> > > > include the
> > > > > case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Technical Support
> > > > > Customer Service Operations
> > > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.
> > > > > Website: http://www.xantrex.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any
> > > > attachments, is
> > > > > for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain
> > confidential
> > > > and
> > > > > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use,
> > disclosure or
> > > > > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended
> > recipient,
> > > > please
> > > > > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies
of the
> > > > original
> > > > > message.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Case number: 00102618
> > > > > Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012
> > > > > Description: Can you explain the differences between
RV3012M and
> > > > other
> > > > > RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are these
> > > > models still
> > > > > suitable for an RV application?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>