RV 3012 M

[Dorn Hetzel]

In my 77FC35 the batteries are at the far left front corner, no space for the inverter in their compartment anyway.

The current battery charger (not an inverter) is about midway back on the left side, same compartment as sewage host storage, probably ten feet from the batteries, doesn't really seem like an optimum location for the Xantrex.


Would I be crazy to put it inside the coach? There's a storage compartment right behind the drivers seat that's probably big enough, and within 2 feet of the batteries.

Another question. The Xantrex hookup diagrams seem to show the batteries directly connected to the 3012, and all coach loads hung behind it. Since I have combined coach and starting batteries in my 77, I don't think I should be running starting current through the 3012?


I was considering pulling the generator, which we never ever use, and filling that compartment with "house" batteries and a more weatherproof box for the inverter... Too whacky?

Dorn Hetzel
77FC35

Hogansville, GA

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:59 PM, bumpersbird <"bumpersbird@yahoo.com"> wrote:

Terry,



Just to be sure I called Sun Electronics again to verify their status

as a Xanterx dealer and they confirmed that they are a Xantrex dealer.



I would like to get this all done in the next 2 to 3 weeks but if

Icould look into the future, you know what I mean.



I am still working on the engine bay cooling fans and I just got

a '07 DDEC IV ECM with it programing to my coach as a back-up. So

I've got a lot stuff to play with.

Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 WLWB

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Terry Neal wrote:

>

> Thanks Kurt. Nice report.

>

> I too was getting differing stories from different people. One of

the

> techs at Xantrex told me Sun Electronics wasn't even an authorized

> dealer or distributor & there was no record of them in their

listing.

> Of course, he didn't speak English that I could understand real

well so

> he may have be sitting in Bombay? Also, he kept saying there was

no RV

> 3012 "M" inverter either.

>

> In my PT, to install an inverter outside the engine compartment

means I

> change a lot of wiring. Yours is probably the same. May be the

best

> solution though. I was also thinking I may be able to build a

> compartment where the Rediline used to be and put it in there?

Like

> your idea of running a couple of ACs with the Detroit while

underway. I

> take it you are going to wire your system with the Gen Start

feature.

> That would be a good idea too.

>

> Do you have a time frame for all of this? I may wait a little

while to

> see how you accomplish all of the changes. Please share your

progress

> with us. I much appreciate it.

>

> Terry

>

> Terry Neal

> Bozeman, MT

> 82PT40 6V92TA

> 74FC34 6V53T

>

>

>

> bumpersbird wrote:

>

> > Terry,

> >

> > Here is the responce from Xantrex Customer Serive.

> >

> > I did buy 2 of these units. They are new in the box and Sun

Electric

> > is an aurthorized dealer so the warrantie should be good.

> >

> > I spoke with several tech guys and of course got several diffrent

> > answers. About all aspects of these units.

> >

> > I was most impressed with a guy from Buddy Gregg Motorhomes in

> > Knoxville TN. Wayne Clapp a veteran BB Tech. His first question

was

> > did I plan on keeping the coach? Well of course. Then you must get

> > these inverters out of the engine compartment and into one of the

> > bays. So were are going the reinvent the wheel. Not really a

problem

> > the old compartment is really not large enough for the new

inveters.

> >

> > With the inverter box empty I think I'll throw in a couple more

> > Lifeline gell cells. That will make 8 house batts. Wayne also

told me

> > he can with the addition of a few relays make the AC run on Batts.

> > With the additional 2 Lifeline's and the 2 new invetrers running

off

> > of 8 Batts. in 2, four Batt. banks I should be able to run 2 AC'S.

> > The 300 amp alternator should be able to tow the line. I would be

> > nice to run the roof air with out the generator. Any help in fuel

> > economy is welcomed.

> >

> > Any body want to buy a electric grill for their coach? Mine is

coming

> > out, slide and electric components included.

> >

> > I also bought 2 RC7/GS controlers off of e-bay. The were the best

> > deal for the $'s.

> >

> > Kurt Horvath

> > 95 PT-42 WLWB

> >

> > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]

> >

> > Dear kurt daniel horvath,

> >

> > "Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7."

> >

> > No , this will not work properly. You are better off trying to

locate

> > an RC7 by seaching the internet and the many dealers who may have

a

> > NOS unit.

> >

> > "Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?"

> >

> > If the unit is new in the box and purchased from proper dealer who

> > purchased it from a Xantrex Distributor than we shall honor the

> > warranty.

> >

> > Xantrex Technical Support

> > Customer Service Operations

> > Xantrex Technology Inc.

> > Email: customerservice@...

> > Website: www.xantrex.com

> > t: (360) 925-5097 / (800) 670-0707

> > f: (360) 435-2636

> >

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contain

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> >

> > --------------- Original Message ---------------

> > From: kurt daniel horvath [kguns@... ]

> > To: customerservice@...

> > Subject: Fw: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]

> >

> > Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?

> >

> > ----Original Message----

> > From: kguns@...

> > Date: 05/21/2008 3:27 PM

> > To: >

> > Subj: RE: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]

> >

> > Dear Mr.Nick Klien.

> >

> > Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7.

> > If so, are there any peculiarities involed or is it just a simple

> > choice of which control is available.

> > Yes price is a consideration here the old unites are new and are

an

> > exceptional deal at this time.

> >

> > Thank You for your time,

> > Kurt Horvath

> >

> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> > , Terry Neal

wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Kurt,

> > >

> > > Did you receive a response from Xantrex about the RC/GS remote

to

> > > control this RV 3012 M? I am thinking about ordering one too &

> > replace

> > > all of the old components such as the Redline unit in my PT.

Can't

> > find

> > > any info about the two working together.

> > > Terry

> > >

> > > bumpersbird wrote:

> > >

> > > > Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question.

> > > >

> > > > I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control

panel

> > > > the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.

> > > >

> > > > According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to

set

> > > > the inverter/charger to your particular application.

> > > >

> > > > Kurt Horvath

> > > > 95 PT-42

> > > >

> > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kurt Horvath,

> > > >

> > > > They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the

> > RV3012M

> > > > model and then the RV 3012 GS :

> > > >

> > > > The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units

were

> > only

> > > > used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a

> > series

> > > > of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the

section

> > > > on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)

> > > >

> > > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.

> > > > Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the

regular

> > > > version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the

same.

> > > >

> > > > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard

> > models

> > > > were:

> > > > SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT

> > > > BAT CAPACITY – AUTO

> > > > BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID

> > > > CHARGE RATE – 80%

> > > >

> > > > The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV

series.

> > > > This series looks almost the same as the original RV and

largely

> > has

> > > > the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is

that

> > > > it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few

> > enhancements

> > > > made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming.

> > > >

> > > > Both models were designed for RV use.

> > > >

> > > > "RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would

the

> > > > cost be?"

> > > >

> > > > You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you

do not

> > > > have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing

> > a "google"

> > > > search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer

> > available

> > > > as they have been obsolete for awhile now.

> > > >

> > > > It would be good to update the system rather than repair the

> > freedom

> > > > if they are really 15 years old.

> > > >

> > > > I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M"

model.

> > > >

> > > > But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be

fine

> > if

> > > > an RC7 comes with it.

> > > >

> > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure

to

> > > > include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the

> > email.

> > > >

> > > > Technical Support

> > > > Customer Service Operations

> > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.

> > > > Website: www.xantrex.com

> > > >

> > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

> > > > attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may

> > contain

> > > > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized

review,

> > > > use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not

the

> > > > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail

and

> > > > destroy all copies of the original message.

> > > >

> > > > -----------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > > Case number: 00102708

> > > > Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger

> > > > Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between

the

> > > > model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older

model

> > or

> > > > are there significant diffrences between the two units?

RV3012 M

> > be

> > > > reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost be?

Can

> > the

> > > > model

> > > > I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my

coach.

> > > > They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these

unites

> > > > with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I

am in

> > > > the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good

time

> > to

> > > > do the inverter sysytem.

> > > > Thanks for your time,

> > > >

> > > > Kurt Horvath

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> >

> > > > , "Dorn Hetzel"

> >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> > > > > From: Nick Klein

> > > > > Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM

> > > > > Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [

> > ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref ]

> > > > > To: "dorn@"

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear dorn,

> > > > >

> > > > > They are basically exactly the same units, but below is an

> > > > explanation:

> > > > >

> > > > > This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and RV3012M,

> > which

> > > > were

> > > > > 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were

only

> > > > used for

> > > > > Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series

of

> > > > default

> > > > > programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section

on "RC7

> > &

> > > > RC7GS

> > > > > Setup Menus".)

> > > > >

> > > > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.

> > > > Otherwise they

> > > > > were physically indistinguishable from the regular version,

and

> > > > had no other

> > > > > unique features. Warranty is the same.

> > > > >

> > > > > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard

> > > > models were:

> > > > > SEARCH SENSE - DEFEAT

> > > > > BAT CAPACITY - AUTO

> > > > > BAT TYPE - LIQUID LEAD ACID

> > > > > CHARGE RATE - 80%

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, both models were designed for RV use.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make

sure to

> > > > include the

> > > > > case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Technical Support

> > > > > Customer Service Operations

> > > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.

> > > > > Website: www.xantrex.com

> > > > >

> > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

> > > > attachments, is

> > > > > for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain

> > confidential

> > > > and

> > > > > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use,

> > disclosure or

> > > > > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended

> > recipient,

> > > > please

> > > > > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies

of the

> > > > original

> > > > > message.

> > > > >

> > > > > -----------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > > Case number: 00102618

> > > > > Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012

> > > > > Description: Can you explain the differences between

RV3012M and

> > > > other

> > > > > RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are these

> > > > models still

> > > > > suitable for an RV application?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>