RV 3012 M

[Terry Neal]

Thanks much Kurt. Sounds like you do have a few big projects
underway. I am going to buy one of the RV 3012 Ms & the RC7/GS
remote. Looks like a very good setup & you can't beat the cost for
the RV3012M.



I wonder if I could run one of my ACs on a single 3000 watt? I have
the 3 basement ACs. I only have 2 of the 4D batteries in the back now
to run the house & engine starting. I would need to beef up the
batteries but I can do that by stacking them into the space the
Rediline used to sit in plus build a new shelf above that space. Have
another gen set battery up front.



Terry

Terry Neal

Bozeman, MT

82PT40 6V92TA

74FC34 6V53T











bumpersbird wrote:







Terry,







Just to be sure I called Sun Electronics again to verify their status 



as a Xanterx dealer and they confirmed that they are a Xantrex dealer.







I would like to get this all done in the next 2 to 3 weeks but if 



Icould look into the future, you know what I mean.







I am still working on the engine bay cooling fans and I just got 



a '07 DDEC IV ECM with it programing to my coach as a back-up. So 



I've got a lot stuff to play with.







Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 WLWB 







--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",

Terry Neal "bird@..." wrote:



>



> Thanks Kurt. Nice report. 



> 



> I too was getting differing stories from different people. One of 



the 



> techs at Xantrex told me Sun Electronics wasn't even an authorized





> dealer or distributor & there was no record of them in their 



listing. 



> Of course, he didn't speak English that I could understand real 



well so 



> he may have be sitting in Bombay? Also, he kept saying there was 



no RV 



> 3012 "M" inverter either.



> 



> In my PT, to install an inverter outside the engine compartment 



means I 



> change a lot of wiring. Yours is probably the same. May be the 



best 



> solution though. I was also thinking I may be able to build a 



> compartment where the Rediline used to be and put it in there? 



Like 



> your idea of running a couple of ACs with the Detroit while 



underway. I 



> take it you are going to wire your system with the Gen Start 



feature. 



> That would be a good idea too.



> 



> Do you have a time frame for all of this? I may wait a little 



while to 



> see how you accomplish all of the changes. Please share your 



progress 



> with us. I much appreciate it.



> 



> Terry



> 



> Terry Neal



> Bozeman, MT



> 82PT40 6V92TA



> 74FC34 6V53T



> 



> 



> 



> bumpersbird wrote:



> 



> > Terry,



> >



> > Here is the responce from Xantrex Customer Serive.



> >



> > I did buy 2 of these units. They are new in the box and Sun 



Electric



> > is an aurthorized dealer so the warrantie should be good.



> >



> > I spoke with several tech guys and of course got several

diffrent



> > answers. About all aspects of these units.



> >



> > I was most impressed with a guy from Buddy Gregg Motorhomes in



> > Knoxville TN. Wayne Clapp a veteran BB Tech. His first

question 



was



> > did I plan on keeping the coach? Well of course. Then you

must get



> > these inverters out of the engine compartment and into one of

the



> > bays. So were are going the reinvent the wheel. Not really a 



problem



> > the old compartment is really not large enough for the new 



inveters.



> >



> > With the inverter box empty I think I'll throw in a couple

more



> > Lifeline gell cells. That will make 8 house batts. Wayne also





told me



> > he can with the addition of a few relays make the AC run on

Batts.



> > With the additional 2 Lifeline's and the 2 new invetrers

running 



off



> > of 8 Batts. in 2, four Batt. banks I should be able to run 2

AC'S.



> > The 300 amp alternator should be able to tow the line. I

would be



> > nice to run the roof air with out the generator. Any help in

fuel



> > economy is welcomed.



> >



> > Any body want to buy a electric grill for their coach? Mine

is 



coming



> > out, slide and electric components included.



> >



> > I also bought 2 RC7/GS controlers off of e-bay. The were the

best



> > deal for the $'s.



> >



> > Kurt Horvath



> > 95 PT-42 WLWB



> >



> > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]



> >



> > Dear kurt daniel horvath,



> >



> > "Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7."



> >



> > No , this will not work properly. You are better off trying

to 



locate



> > an RC7 by seaching the internet and the many dealers who may

have 



a



> > NOS unit.



> >



> > "Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box

units?"



> >



> > If the unit is new in the box and purchased from proper

dealer who



> > purchased it from a Xantrex Distributor than we shall honor

the



> > warranty.



> >



> > Xantrex Technical Support



> > Customer Service Operations



> > Xantrex Technology Inc.



> > Email: customerservice@... <"customerser"vice%40xantrex.com>



> > Website: www.xantrex.com



> > t: (360) 925-5097 / (800) 670-0707



> > f: (360) 435-2636



> >



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> >



> > --------------- Original Message ---------------



> > From: kurt daniel horvath [kguns@... <"kguns%"40hughes.net>]



> > To: customerservice@... <"customerser"vice%40xantrex.com>



> > Subject: Fw: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref

]



> >



> > Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?



> >



> > ----Original Message----



> > From: kguns@... <"kguns%"40hughes.net>



> > Date: 05/21/2008 3:27 PM



> > To: ... <"customerser"vice%40xantrex.com>>



> > Subj: RE: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref

]



> >



> > Dear Mr.Nick Klien.



> >



> > Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7.



> > If so, are there any peculiarities involed or is it just a

simple



> > choice of which control is available.



> > Yes price is a consideration here the old unites are new and

are 



an



> > exceptional deal at this time.



> >



> > Thank You for your time,



> > Kurt Horvath



> >



> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"





> > <"Wanderlodge"Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,

Terry Neal  



wrote:



> > >



> > > Hi Kurt,



> > >



> > > Did you receive a response from Xantrex about the RC/GS

remote 



to



> > > control this RV 3012 M? I am thinking about ordering one

too &



> > replace



> > > all of the old components such as the Redline unit in my

PT. 



Can't



> > find



> > > any info about the two working together.



> > > Terry



> > >



> > > bumpersbird wrote:



> > >



> > > > Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M

question.



> > > >



> > > > I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new

control 



panel



> > > > the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.



> > > >



> > > > According to my local tech guy it will. You should

be able to 



set



> > > > the inverter/charger to your particular application.



> > > >



> > > > Kurt Horvath



> > > > 95 PT-42



> > > >



> > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]



> > > >



> > > > Dear Kurt Horvath,



> > > >



> > > > They are very similar units. Below is an

explanation of the



> > RV3012M



> > > > model and then the RV 3012 GS :



> > > >



> > > > The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively.

These units 



were



> > only



> > > > used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation

referred to a



> > series



> > > > of default programming items requested by Monaco.

(See the 



section



> > > > on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)



> > > >



> > > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the

factory.



> > > > Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable

from the 



regular



> > > > version, and had no other unique features. Warranty

is the 



same.



> > > >



> > > > The "software" defaults which may be different from

standard



> > models



> > > > were:



> > > > SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT



> > > > BAT CAPACITY – AUTO



> > > > BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID



> > > > CHARGE RATE – 80%



> > > >



> > > > The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced

the RV 



series.



> > > > This series looks almost the same as the original

RV and 



largely



> > has



> > > > the same specs and functions. Its main visual

distinction is 



that



> > > > it only has two com ports, not three. There were a

few



> > enhancements



> > > > made with the Auto Gen Start feature and

programming.



> > > >



> > > > Both models were designed for RV use.



> > > >



> > > > "RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so

what would 



the



> > > > cost be?"



> > > >



> > > > You could program it yourself if you have a RC7,

but if you 



do not



> > > > have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by

doing



> > a "google"



> > > > search of the dealers online otherwise they are no

longer



> > available



> > > > as they have been obsolete for awhile now.



> > > >



> > > > It would be good to update the system rather than

repair the



> > freedom



> > > > if they are really 15 years old.



> > > >



> > > > I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than

the "M" 



model.



> > > >



> > > > But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model

will be 



fine



> > if



> > > > an RC7 comes with it.



> > > >



> > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please

make sure 



to



> > > > include the case number (00102708) in the subject

line of the



> > email.



> > > >



> > > > Technical Support



> > > > Customer Service Operations



> > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.



> > > > Website: www.xantrex.com



> > > >



> > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message,

including any



> > > > attachments, is for the sole use of any

recipient(s) and may



> > contain



> > > > confidential and privileged information. Any

unauthorized 



review,



> > > > use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If

you are not 



the



> > > > intended recipient, please contact the sender by

reply e-mail 



and



> > > > destroy all copies of the original message.



> > > >



> > > > -----------------------------------------



> > > >



> > > > Case number: 00102708



> > > > Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger



> > > > Description: Could you please explain the diffrence

between 



the



> > > > model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just

an older 



model



> > or



> > > > are there significant diffrences between the two

units? 



RV3012 M



> > be



> > > > reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the

cost be?



Can



> > the



> > > > model



> > > > I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored

units in my 



coach.



> > > > They are 15 years old. would it be better to

replace these 



unites



> > > > with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them

refurbished. I 



am in



> > > > the process of refubishing all the systems so now

is a good 



time



> > to



> > > > do the inverter sysytem.



> > > > Thanks for your time,



> > > >



> > > > Kurt Horvath



> > > >



> > > >



> > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"





> > <"Wanderlodge"Forum%40yahoogroups.com>



> > > > <"Wanderlodge"Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,

"Dorn Hetzel"



> > 



> > > > wrote:



> > > > >



> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------



> > > > > From: Nick Klein >



> > > > > Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM



> > > > > Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [



> > ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref ]



> > > > > To: "dorn@" 



> > > > >



> > > > >



> > > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]



> > > > >



> > > > >



> > > > > Dear dorn,



> > > > >



> > > > > They are basically exactly the same units, but

below is an



> > > > explanation:



> > > > >



> > > > > This line consisted of models RV2012M,

RV2512M, and RV3012M,



> > which



> > > > were



> > > > > 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These

units were 



only



> > > > used for



> > > > > Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred

to a series 



of



> > > > default



> > > > > programming items requested by Monaco. (See

the section 



on "RC7



> > &



> > > > RC7GS



> > > > > Setup Menus".)



> > > > >



> > > > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open

at the factory.



> > > > Otherwise they



> > > > > were physically indistinguishable from the

regular version, 



and



> > > > had no other



> > > > > unique features. Warranty is the same.



> > > > >



> > > > > The "software" defaults which may be different

from standard



> > > > models were:



> > > > > SEARCH SENSE - DEFEAT



> > > > > BAT CAPACITY - AUTO



> > > > > BAT TYPE - LIQUID LEAD ACID



> > > > > CHARGE RATE - 80%



> > > > >



> > > > > Yes, both models were designed for RV use.



> > > > >



> > > > >



> > > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue,

please make 



sure to



> > > > include the



> > > > > case number (00102618) in the subject line of

the email.



> > > > >



> > > > >



> > > > > Technical Support



> > > > > Customer Service Operations



> > > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.



> > > > > Website: www.xantrex.com



> > > > >



> > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message,

including any



> > > > attachments, is



> > > > > for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may

contain



> > confidential



> > > > and



> > > > > privileged information. Any unauthorized

review, use,



> > disclosure or



> > > > > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the

intended



> > recipient,



> > > > please



> > > > > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy

all copies 



of the



> > > > original



> > > > > message.



> > > > >



> > > > > -----------------------------------------



> > > > >



> > > > > Case number: 00102618



> > > > > Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from

other rv3012



> > > > > Description: Can you explain the differences

between 



RV3012M and



> > > > other



> > > > > RV3012 models. What does M series software

mean? Are these



> > > > models still



> > > > > suitable for an RV application?



> > > > >



> > > >



> > > >



> > >



> >



> >



>