RV 3012 M

[bubblerboy64]

Hi Greg, Honda calls them inverters because they are not the
typical, a motor driving a generator to produce electrical current.
The parts which produce the electric are some how integrated within
the engine itself (which I don't fully understand how they do that).
This is done to save weight. I have several of them (used them with
my trailers and 5th wheel). Very nice easy to start, quiet. I carry a
1000watt as sort of an back up. I just installed a small inverter in
my bus prior to that if I wanted to watch TV or run a small appliance
I had to run the big generator. I dry camp some so if I could I
would run the Honda and plug the shore line into it which was much
more fuel efficient and if I could set the Honda off a distance you
could not hear it at all inside the bus. My house generator does not
have a separate battery so if I screw up and run my batteries too low
I can't start the bus. So I have the Honda in my storage compartment
just in case. I can either charge the batteries with the Honda or
jump the generator using the Honda. Problem of course is carrying
gas. Propane would work but then you would not have the ability to
move the generator from location to location, unless of course you
used a small propane tank which you could move with the Honda or
rigged up some type of hose system. They are very nice, typical high
quality Honda products.I don't leave home with out one. With a EU2000
you could run everything but the microwave or AC.
John Heckman
central Pa
1973 FC
>
> Dorn, I dont think it wacky to dump the genset. AC power usage is
> personal. The big genset supply the airconditioner operation
> efficiently but do a poor job on recharging batteries efficiently.
> For Ariconditioner usage, I would bet the effort to recharge
> batteries drained from an inverter run airconditioner is more than
> running the genset to realtime power the aircon.
>
> You may do well to drop in:
> A....two or 4 L-16's house bank
> B....The Xantrex inverter
> C....a honda 2,000 watt mini genset ( why they call it an
inverter??)
> D....and a bank of start batteries.
> It would be nice to have a small genset that runs on diesel but the
> honda can run on propane. if you have not a need to use much heat
> when you travel, the bus has storage for that fuel.
>
> I have an over sized battery bank (6 L-16's) which is great for 3
> days in the desert followed by 6 hours on the road to recharge.
but
> when it comes time to charge the large bank while camped, it takes
> three times as long as running just two L-16 up to full charge.
> There fore, there is not much benifit to a large bank unless you
use
> the Cat/Detroit chargers to rebank the juice as you drive to
another
> stop.
>
> I like to schedule battery bank recharge for periods where I have a
> high demand of AC usage like heating water and microwave cooking.
> when the genset spinns I want to maximize benifit from the fuel it
> consumes. I want the two inverter/chargers to have a backup
inverter
> and major amp recharge when I run the genset. The problem with
> the 'Big BlueBird genset recharge exersize' is ;as the house
battery
> bank gets closer to full, the draw on the chargers goes way down
but
> the genset spinns effort that is lost fuel$$$$$. If I can justify
> other uses for a Honda 2,000 watter, I would like to get one to run
> on propane as my onboard propane supply is large and under utilized
> (heater is coverted to diesel Wabasto). I would then not need to
> cary gasoline.
>
> Several other question about having two independent inverters
> supplying power:
>
> Would the two 110 AC outputs would be equivalent to two legs of
> houshold current? combined to make 240?
>
> DO the controllers shake hands??
>
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Dorn Hetzel"
> wrote:
> >
> > In my 77FC35 the batteries are at the far left front corner, no
> space for
> > the inverter in their compartment anyway.
> >
> > The current battery charger (not an inverter) is about midway
back
> on the
> > left side, same compartment as sewage host storage, probably ten
> feet from
> > the batteries, doesn't really seem like an optimum location for
the
> > Xantrex.
> >
> > Would I be crazy to put it inside the coach? There's a storage
> compartment
> > right behind the drivers seat that's probably big enough, and
> within 2 feet
> > of the batteries.
> >
> > Another question. The Xantrex hookup diagrams seem to show the
> batteries
> > directly connected to the 3012, and all coach loads hung behind
> it. Since I
> > have combined coach and starting batteries in my 77, I don't
think
> I should
> > be running starting current through the 3012?
> >
> > I was considering pulling the generator, which we never ever use,
> and
> > filling that compartment with "house" batteries and a more
> weatherproof box
> > for the inverter... Too whacky?
> >
> > Dorn Hetzel
> > 77FC35
> > Hogansville, GA
> >
>