BurningMan

[Gregory OConnor]

The burning question has alway been what is it?? When you hit the
official sites you get an official answer but I like to look at
things thru the eyes of participants past. A good way to view that
is to look at their photo albums on sites like flicker. It is best
to have your searches un censored to include adult content or you
will not get the truth. The event seems way cool but it looks like
some folks can only express art and culture by being too sexual and
off the wall. It might be that that is their culture and idea of
art?

If you do a flicker search of burningman you will find examples of
many contributers albums. Choose one shot that you like and view
their album. this will get you way inside behind the fence at the
event. Here is a link to one album whos photographer picks people
and looks for color.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/loupiote/sets/432859/

from the pics of many participants I would enjoy the event viewing
what I think of as 'art derived from talent', 'organization and
structure built by planning and labor' but too many folks (whom have
every right to be there) that I think of as 'freaks derived by
chemicals' keep me from a visit. Dont think I will ever go unless
the BLM sends a work order.

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Greg Young
wrote:
>
> Hey Hank - It officially starts next Monday and goes through Labor
Day. Same time every year. Check out http://www.burningman.com, or if you
get Current TV on satellite or cable they will be broadcasting live.
>
> Greg
> 86PT40
> Black Rock City Nevada - the only gifting economy in the world!
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Henry Jay Hannigan
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:58:29 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Black Valves
>
>
> What are the dates on the "BURNING MAN" thing??
> Regards,
> Hank
> 90SP36
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Leroy Eckert
> wrote:
> >
> > Burning Man; sounds like a trip!! Speaking of trips; I am
willing
> to bet that lots of folks there believe parts are working when
they
> aren't, and believe parts aren't working when they are. Leave the
> parts changing to another day so the parts are installed
correctly.
> Love those festivals and would like to hit Burning Man one day.
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> > Dahlonega, gA
> > Royale Conversion
> >
> > --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> > From: Kurt Horvath
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Black Valves
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 1:00 AM
> >
> >
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> > You Rock On Greg!
> >
> >
> >
> > If you want the best gadget upgrade try FORWARD LOOKING
INFRARED,
> >
> > F.L.I.R.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ya know it doesn't matter what you've got as long as it works.
> >
> >
> >
> > t Horvath
> >
> > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> >
> > 10AC
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Greg Young
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I'm very happy with my nice old manual pull valves. What I
want
> >
> > now is an upgrade to my backup camera and monitor, and a tire
> >
> > pressure monitor.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > But, right now, we're at Burning Man, and there's much more to
> fun
> >
> > away from the bus than inside of it!
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Greg (AKA Smoke Blower to my Burner friends)
> >
> > > 1986 PT-40
> >
> > > Black Rock City NV, for the next week the 5th largest city in
> >
> > Nevada.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> >
> > > From: Kurt Horvath
> >
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> >
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:47:14 PM
> >
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Black Valves
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I like the air valves, fast, positive action, tough, great
> factory
> >
> > > service, I can't imagine that the electric units are built
better
> >
> > > than the air units, and after looking at them online they are
not
> >
> > > nearly as tough looking as the air valve, in my opinion, as
far
> as
> >
> > > the new bird getting electric valves saving money is an
> incentive,
> >
> > > wave bye-bye to the classic bird, they are cheaper than the
> Duprez
> >
> > > Twist-Loc Power Valve. Air valve also operate in the
traditional
> >
> > > manner, just pull and there she blows. As far as no air to
> operate,
> >
> > > my coach has auxiliary air, just hit the dash switch and in a
few
> >
> > > minuets air to spare, You could make the same argument for no
> >
> > power ,
> >
> > > either situation would be rare. So I would say economy verses
> >
> > > quality, I like quality, If for no other reason the air valves
> are
> >
> > by
> >
> > > far way cooler, POWWOOSSSSHHHEE, !!!!!!!
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Kurt Horvath
> >
> > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> >
> > > 10AC
> >
> > >
> >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Stephen Birtles"
> >
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > it strips the small nylon gears
> >
> > > > yes you can manually dump be prepared to spen 5 or 6 minute
> >
> > winding
> >
> > > > open the valves
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Stephen 77fc35
> >
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> >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Gregory OConnor"
> >
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Hank I think electric valves are the ticket because most
> times
> >
> > > when
> >
> > > > > I dump I have no air to open or close the valve so I do it
> >
> > > manualy
> >
> > > > > or have to plan dumping. I just wonder what would happen
to
> the
> >
> > > > > electric motors if the valve's gate encounters an obstacle
of
> a
> >
> > > high
> >
> > > > > fiber nature? would the motor stop or continue and damage
the
> >
> > > gate/
> >
> > > > > seal and motor?? and the other question is if the electric
> >
> > motor
> >
> > > > > fails can you manualy dump?
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > GregoryO'Connor
> >
> > > > > 94ptRomolandCa
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Henry Jay
> Hannigan"
> >
> > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > Paul:
> >
> > > > > > Recommend ELECTRIC VALVES.....DRAINMAS TER.COM out of
> >
> > Hollister
> >
> > > > > > California.. ....call the factory direct IF u want to
save
> >
> > > > > > money....they will even put the attachements on the
> >
> > > drainmasters
> >
> > > > > > before they ship them....I put Drainmasters on my 90SP
and
> am
> >
> > > very
> >
> > > > > > happy!!! push a button and "BAM" the "stuff"
flows.....
> >
> > > > > > make sure you get the "good" switches also.....
> >
> > > > > > u can email me privately IF u have any questions... Also
> the
> >
> > > 2008
> >
> > > > > > bluebird is using electric dump valves for your
> >
> > information. ..
> >
> > > > > > Regards,
> >
> > > > > > Hank
> >
> > > > > > 90SP36
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> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups.
com, "ppotter14950"
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > Hi there
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to
open
> >
> > gray
> >
> > > > > and
> >
> > > > > > black
> >
> > > > > > > tanks valves.
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > I was able to twist gray water handle and with some
force
> >
> > > able
> >
> > > > > to
> >
> > > > > > open
> >
> > > > > > > it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about
90
> >
> > > degrees
> >
> > > > > and
> >
> > > > > > it
> >
> > > > > > > would go no further. Does this mean i am done and
need
> to
> >
> > > > > replace,
> >
> > > > > > or
> >
> > > > > > > is there some way to lubricate or service to try and
> bring
> >
> > > back
> >
> > > > > to
> >
> > > > > > life.
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products
> >
> > valve,
> >
> > > or
> >
> > > > > go
> >
> > > > > > to
> >
> > > > > > > camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and
> adapt
> >
> > it.
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > Also another newbee question, where is the hot water
> heater
> >
> > > > > > located? I
> >
> > > > > > > glanced over some post earlier but was not paying
> attention
> >
> > > > > about
> >
> > > > > > water
> >
> > > > > > > heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have
opened
> >
> > > every
> >
> > > > > > door
> >
> > > > > > > and have not found it yet.
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > Thanks again
> >
> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > Paul & Deborah Potter
> >
> > > > > > > 1987 PT38
> >
> > > > > > > Hesperia CA
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